Television Lost: The Final Season

It's pathetic for anyone to to be angry at m16 for pointing out something which ABC and the writers themselves obviously are happy to be shown as a preview. Otherwise it wouldn't be on TV as next weeks preview in the first place.

Seriously some of you need to chill out. :lol:.
 
Solius said:
Cheers for the warning Ivor, I'd have opened that if you hadn't replied. As for M16 I think he should be banned from the thread for giving no warning if it's a future episode spoiler.
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Did I miss something?

I thought this was what spoiler tags are for. Besides, it's not inside info - it was shown right after this episode.

I could still be wrong about what the next episode is about.
 
M160RA said:
Did I miss something?

I thought this was what spoiler tags are for. Besides, it's not inside info - it was shown right after this episode.

I could still be wrong about what the next episode is about.
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Some people don't want to watch the previews. If you're talking about a scene from a preview then just state that above the spoiler. I once saw a preview of Dexter, and one of the lines from it was the same line at the end of the episode so it kind of ruined it for me.
 
M160RA said:
Did I miss something?

I thought this was what spoiler tags are for. Besides, it's not inside info - it was shown right after this episode.

I could still be wrong about what the next episode is about.
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Spoiler tags are for previous episode spoilers. Future episode spoilers should come with a warning preceding so people that don't want to see previews or other things like that can avoid opening the spoiler. Not everyone watches the previews and not everyone wants to either.
 
Solius said:
Some people don't want to watch the previews. If you're talking about a scene from a preview then just state that above the spoiler. I once saw a preview of Dexter, and one of the lines from it was the same line at the end of the episode so it kind of ruined it for me.
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Hello Dexter Morgan.
 
Solius said:
Some people don't want to watch the previews. If you're talking about a scene from a preview then just state that above the spoiler. I once saw a preview of Dexter, and one of the lines from it was the same line at the end of the episode so it kind of ruined it for me.
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All I saw in the preview was [WARNING: possible future episode spoiler]
very brief snapshots of Locke, MIB, and Jacob - and then a message saying there are two sides to every coin - even as spoilers go it's hardly earth-shattering. I inferred from this that we will see something evil from someone we are led to believe is good.
Again, this is hardly earth-shattering - maybe we need to have two kinds of spoiler tags - spoilers to do with just-aired episodes, and speculative spoilers.
 
Solius said:
Some people don't want to watch the previews. If you're talking about a scene from a preview then just state that above the spoiler. I once saw a preview of Dexter, and one of the lines from it was the same line at the end of the episode so it kind of ruined it for me.
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jveezy said:
Spoiler tags are for previous episode spoilers. Future episode spoilers should come with a warning preceding so people that don't want to see previews or other things like that can avoid opening the spoiler. Not everyone watches the previews and not everyone wants to either.
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Fair enough. Apologies to whoever saw the possible spoiler without intending to.
 
M160RA said:
All I saw in the preview was
very brief snapshots of Locke, MIB, and Jacob - and then a message saying there are two sides to every coin - even as spoilers go it's hardly earth-shattering. I inferred from this that we will see something evil from someone we are led to believe is good.
Again, this is hardly earth-shattering - maybe we need to have two kinds of spoiler tags - spoilers to do with just-aired episodes, and speculative spoilers.
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Just put a warning if it's a future spoiler. That's been the custom so far in most tv threads. Just like the edit you just made. Stick to that and you'll be fine.

Like you said it's not earth shattering, and ABC is content with giving it away, but some people would prefer to be completely surprised so let's respect that. This way we can keep people who are here to talk about the past episodes happy while you can still post your speculation and preview stuff.
 
Damn that was a great episode. Sad to see three of the Losties go out in a ten minute span. Always was a fan of Sayid and its good that the writers gave him his redemption before the end. Great farewell scene for Jin and Sun as well. The background score with the submarine sinking and showing their hands unclasping just got to me.

Also, the moment on the beach with Hugo weeping .. shit, is it wrong to be this affected by a TV show. Kudos to the writers for making us care this much.
 
If an episode airs already, then you don't use spoilers to talk about it. Use spoilers to talk about future episodes otherwise everyone will just get confused and worried what lies beyond the spoiler button.

If your waiting for it to air in the UK then simply don't come into the thread until friday night. It gets too confusing as to what is and isn't a spoiler in this thread then after it airs in the US.

My next post will be without the damn spoiler tag.
 
Rahul said:
If an episode airs already, then you don't use spoilers to talk about it. Use spoilers to talk about future episodes otherwise everyone will just get confused and worried what lies beyond the spoiler button.

If your waiting for it to air in the UK then simply don't come into the thread until friday night. It gets too confusing as to what is and isn't a spoiler in this thread then after it airs in the US.

My next post will be without the damn spoiler tag.
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Considering some people are still talking about the previous episode up through the morning of the day the episode airs, I don't know if we can just ask UK viewers to just halt discussion of something they're excited to talk about and avoid the thread for three days until the episode airs in the UK.

That said I definitely see your point and certainly others have said it before. Problem is that others have said the exact opposite and we've had this argument about spoiler convention over and over again. Usually it settles after a while until someone new comes in and breaks it unknowingly and then it starts all over again.

Personally what I'd like to see is an admin or mod (preferably Geebs or Livvie since I know they've been around here regularly so they understand the situation and how delicate it is so close to the finale) sticky up some spoiler guidelines in the Entertainment Forum so they apply to all tv threads. That way hopefully people know before they enter this thread (and any other tv threads) what the conventions are. We can all try to tell each other what to do, but if I disagree with the conventions you're proposing, who's to say they should listen to either one of us because neither of us are in a position of power to establish rules. I think we need our benevolent dictators to set the record straight once and for all and do it in a place where we can all see it so we can avoid any future confusion from newcomers.

And until we sort this out, I think we should stick with the "future spoiler" warnings. It certainly doesn't hurt to type out those two words just in case someone is expecting something else.

My two cents.
 
This ^

Plus, why should we stop people who still want to discuss 'The Last Recruit' in here. This site is for a football team in the Uk, meaning most of it's users will be in the Uk. Some may not know how/want to illegally download it. It's really no skin off anyone's back to put spoiler tags around what they said until Friday.
 
R.Nilsson7 said:
Does anyone in this thread actually watch it UK paced? All the regulars are here commentating about the latest episode on the day it has aired.
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I don't know. But I'm not going to be the one to put the hammer down on someone who may not have the means or the knowhow to get the episode before it airs in the UK.

I enjoy this show, and I want everyone else to enjoy this show as much as I'm enjoying it. So I don't care whatever it takes to make it so people's experiences aren't ruined, I'm willing to do it, even if it reaches levels of absurdity and we have to put a paragraph description of the nature of our spoiler before our spoilers. I personally don't think we should take a stance of "you weren't extra careful so it's your own damn fault" because I don't want to be the one to ruin it for someone else, regardless of whether it was my fault it was ruined or theirs, and I don't want to see anyone else here put on either side of that situation either.
 
Rahul said:
If an episode airs already, then you don't use spoilers to talk about it. Use spoilers to talk about future episodes otherwise everyone will just get confused and worried what lies beyond the spoiler button.

If your waiting for it to air in the UK then simply don't come into the thread until friday night. It gets too confusing as to what is and isn't a spoiler in this thread then after it airs in the US.

My next post will be without the damn spoiler tag.
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Erm no.
Just stick to the guidelines already set, it's really not that complicated. Common sense goes a long way . if you're talking about something that hasn't happened yet in the US then simply put a warning above the spoiler.

You can't just go against the stream now, that'll get even more confusing and evidently end up with someone spoiling the ending.
 
Top said:
Erm no.
Just stick to the guidelines already set, it's really not that complicated. Common sense goes a long way . if you're talking about something that hasn't happened yet in the US then simply put a warning above the spoiler.

You can't just go against the stream now, that'll get even more confusing and evidently end up with someone spoiling the ending.
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That's what I'm getting at, Top. The guidelines have been mentioned over and over again in this thread, but then get buried after new posts and new pages. And every other thread has the same problem. So we're in the situation now where every newly promoted newbie comes in to post something and hasn't seen these guidelines we're supposed to swear by because they're buried in the Lost thread on page 21 or whatever.

It only takes one person to mess things up, but it happens over and over again because the new people don't know the rules. And it's not just new posters either. Maybe Rahul wasn't around for the last discussion so he didn't know what was agreed upon. And who can blame them. Yeah there's common sense, but these people are making good faith efforts if they're already using the spoiler tag. It's more that they're not aware of the consensus rather than they're intentionally trying to go against the grain. So let's make it easier on them (and ourselves) and put all the rules in one easy to find place for everyone to see so we can hopefully avoid this confusion that seems to pop up on a regular basis as of late.

Okay I swear I'm done. You guys are probably sick of me by now.

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Here's another thing about the last episode:
So Sun and Jin spend all that screen time trying to find each other and then they just die!? The writers have actually pissed me off with the way they finished things with these two characters. Was all a bunch of self-indulgent crap.
 
R.Nilsson7 said:
Does anyone in this thread actually watch it UK paced? All the regulars are here commentating about the latest episode on the day it has aired.
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guys, the lucky ones amongst us with broadband connections will either watch it streaming live or download the next day

However, the show doesn't get shown on SKY until Friday nights so this is why spoilers should be used when you're discussing the latest episode that you've just watched
 
101 said:
Here's another thing about the last episode:
So Sun and Jin spend all that screen time trying to find each other and then they just die!? The writers have actually pissed me off with the way they finished things with these two characters. Was all a bunch of self-indulgent crap.
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Not sure how that qualifies as self-indulgent...

I guess the point of it happening so soon after that reunite was to add more drama to it - Maybe before Jin would have left Sun, but after what happened last time and having to go so long without her he decided it was better to die again rather than be separated.

I did think it was a little strange how they showed little thought for their child, but still a poignant scene made even better by the events that led up to it
 
Sun-Jin arc make no sense what so ever now. And the birth of Ji-Yeon has also been rendered pointless. Jin choosing to die with Sun instead of trying to get off the island to take care of his daughter was idiotic beyond extreme.
 
It wasn't idiotic that Jin and Sun died. Maybe if we think about it logically we'd think that Jin should have left to look after his daughter. However, he already knew the daughter was being looked after by Sun's monther. She said that. The reason they both had to die was because the surname was on the 'list'. Therefore we now know that they weren't candidates. I have a feeling thats not the end of the big character deaths
 
crappycraperson said:
Sun-Jin arc make no sense what so ever now. And the birth of Ji-Yeon has also been rendered pointless. Jin choosing to die with Sun instead of trying to get off the island to take care of his daughter was idiotic beyond extreme.
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My sentiments exactly, unless:
The daughter magically comes to the island and saves them all.

I never thought I could be this displeased when it came to Lost.
 
Also Jack took the last oxygen tank, Jin & Sun wouldn't have been able to get out even if he had freed her
 
golden_blunder said:
It wasn't idiotic that Jin and Sun died. Maybe if we think about it logically we'd think that Jin should have left to look after his daughter. However, he already knew the daughter was being looked after by Sun's monther. She said that. The reason they both had to die was because the surname was on the 'list'. Therefore we now know that they weren't candidates. I have a feeling thats not the end of the big character deaths
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Dunno

I though Jin supposedly dying in S4 finale had much more emotional impact than both of them dying this time. Big difference between someone being raised by their parents or grandparents anyway. Sun's pregnancy was a big arc for two to three seasons with it being hinted that since Ji Yeon was conceived on the island, it would have some kind of implications.

For me, since Season 5 both Sun and Jin have not had much of a role to play in LOST at all.
 
R.Nilsson7 said:
Does anyone in this thread actually watch it UK paced? All the regulars are here commentating about the latest episode on the day it has aired.
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I used to. However it was this very thread which convinced me to find....'other means', as I kept accidentally clicking on it at the wrong time of the week :lol:
 
golden_blunder said:
It wasn't idiotic that Jin and Sun died. Maybe if we think about it logically we'd think that Jin should have left to look after his daughter. However, he already knew the daughter was being looked after by Sun's monther. She said that. The reason they both had to die was because the surname was on the 'list'. Therefore we now know that they weren't candidates. I have a feeling thats not the end of the big character deaths
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I think Sawyer might be the biggest casualty
 
Just heard a rumour has it the finale has been extended, supposedly 108 minutes long now :D

Wish they would make it even longer!
 
I just came to think about something, Matthew Abaddon, the guy who aided Locke in his off-island mission.. hope we get to see a final appearance from him.
 
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