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Television Lost: The Final Season
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I thought it was ok. Certainly not the worst
I think thats abit of smoke screen as Egytian mythology links into Christianity anyway(the Ankh becoming the cross etc) so i'm sure heaven exist in both beliefs but both characters(smokie and Jacob) have alot more in common with christianity deities than egyptian ones.
There is a common thread that runs throughout both beliefs but i'm pretty sure that smokie was refering to heaven in the Christian sense.
I read this on the Lostpedia forums as well. Good read and while it may or may not be true, you got to appreciate the writing on the show and how they manage to plant enough clues/diversions along the way to leave open exactly these kind of possibilities that Jacob might still be the 'dark side' that Locke first talked about.
To be honest, if you compare the two actors who sat on the beach watching the ship approach, then Jacob comes across as the most creepy. He looks a bit suss in his other appearances too. The other guy - MIB/Esau or whoever - didn't seem like a bad guy.
If you read the theory posted above you will see he possibly had good motives behind the kills.
Do we know that he's killed any? They may all have been killed by Jacob.
I have to admit, my memory isn't so great on the finer details of previous episodes.
Are we sure that Smokey isn't Jacob?
Read it again, you will see that Eko does not repent his ways which is what Smokey supposedly wanted.Not entirely!!
Take for example eko. From the flashbacks we know eko did what he had to do to survive and he also sacrificed his "good way" of life by taking away the gun from yemi so that his young brother wouldn't have to kill to survive. He was not an evil person.....the circumstances made him do those things.
He killed eko because he knew he couldn't use him and that eko could become a problem later on.
Now you answer why did the smokey kill the pilot ?
And no one knows that yet.
There could easily be two of them though.
We are 99% sure that fake locke/the other guy/esau/mib is the smokey.
As for the remaining 1%...well we never know anything for certain in lost
Exactly. That's what they want us to think.
Just after Smokey leaves Flocke comes back in and says "I'm sorry you had to see me like that."Exactly. That's what they want us to think.
So he definately is a smoke monster.
OK...so maybe the monster isn't as bad as they want us to think.
(Clutching at straws here....)
Yes...that's what made me think more about it.
Tonight's ep. was good I thought, though a bit daft. The police would have been looking for that cab so Kate wouldn't have been driiving around in it.
Yay, someone else that liked the ep! We are in a minority 
Yay, someone else that liked the ep! We are in a minority
I just sit back and enjoy it. I'm a bit biased because I love the show, but having said that, I love Heroes too and I can see that that's become a bit shit.
I really enjoyed todays episode tbh. I have no idea where they're taking us with the off island bizzaro world flash...alts, but i'm intrigued.
It seems like Danielle may of had this illness by the way those 2 fellas were talking, might have heard it wrong. Claire at the end was a great twist, I knew it was coming, but I didn't think it would be this early and not in this manner.
I did wonder why the police hadn't twigged on earlier about Kates taxi though. Most nowadays are fitted with trackers as well, but i'll ignore that and go with the flow
It seems like Danielle may of had this illness by the way those 2 fellas were talking, might have heard it wrong. Claire at the end was a great twist, I knew it was coming, but I didn't think it would be this early and not in this manner.
I did wonder why the police hadn't twigged on earlier about Kates taxi though. Most nowadays are fitted with trackers as well, but i'll ignore that and go with the flow
The flash sideways will definately be important at some stage of the season, they wouldnt show us it otherwise
What made you think that? From memory all they said was "The French woman? She's been dead for years" and then Aldo telling him to shut up. Might be remembering wrong, but I can't recall anything that would suggest that.
Probably misheard it then. I'm sure they mentioned the illness and Danielle in the same sentence. They seemed to not want to talk about her much either which I found odd.
Someone definitely mentioned "Rousseau". But she hasn't been dead for years, has she?
And what happened to the polar bear - did they actually kill it? I can't remember. If not, where is it? And there's never been any indication as to what it was doing there.
I'm hearing mumurs that the biggest surprise this season is that there is going to be a 7th season.
She died in Season 4 which was in 2004 time.
And the Polar bear escaped from Hydra island - thats where they tested on animals which is why polar bears are on the island
I'm not sure whether to be impressed or to tell you to get a life.
Danielle hasn't been dead for nearly six years in our time though has she? Lost didn't start that long ago surely?
I'm not sure whether to be impressed or to tell you to get a life.
Danielle hasn't been dead for nearly six years in our time though has she? Lost didn't start that long ago surely?
Aha
Shes been dead for three, it's 2007 in the "current" timeline.
And yeah, S1 aired in 2004.
If you think about it the only genuinely bad people out of our survivors were Nikki & Paulo for killing a rich guy to steal his diamonds. The rest were all in a way 'forced' to do what they've done.
Now you answer why did the smokey kill the pilot ?
The quick answer to that is that the producers didn't know where the show was heading then, they were originally going to have Jack killed in the opening episode but they weren't allowed so I think the pilot diedin his place just to give that shock factor.
I'm now wondering how it got to the main island, wait can Polar Bears swim? They can can't they... never mind then.
I'm not sure whether to be impressed or to tell you to get a life.
Danielle hasn't been dead for nearly six years in our time though has she? Lost didn't start that long ago surely?
Danielle died 2004 when the Freightors arrived on the island and 3 years have passed since then.
pissed off that I read so many theories / spoilers now in between S5 and S6- I wasn't even surprised when
Fake Locke turned into smokey during Ep6.1
Solious were you at the United Pompey game?
I was not.
Do you have an identical twin?
Yeah he went to the United Pompey game.
Dogen said Claire was infected. At the end Claire looked a hell of a lot like in the state that Rousseau did. Perhaps getting infected makes you think everyone else is infected and leads you on a one person crusade!
That or living alone in the jungle for 16 or even 3 years leaves you looking a little worse for wear! Just look what it did to Bernard! Having said that, if it is Smokey that causes the infection, and he doesn't want visitors to the island, then that's not impossible.
Looking forward to seeing exactly what state Clare is actually in now, although knowing Lost, I get the feeling we probably won't see her for another episode or two.
Yay, someone else that liked the ep! We are in a minority
Clearly you are. The folks at Dark UFO haven't ranked it too well
..You think I was being sarcastic? I know we are in a minority hence why I said it.
I love how you felt the need to go and dig that up though, I liked the ep, most didnt, want a prize?
I love how you felt the need to go and dig that up though, I liked the ep, most didnt, want a prize?
From a lost blog I read
"It’s been a rough few days for us uber-obsessive Lost fans. People are calling for the heads of the Lost writers, calling them liars, hating Kate more than anyone should ever hate someone so pretty, and threatening to give up on a show they’ve followed closely for six years. The Lost writers have fought back by telling us that if we thought the episode was “filler”, we should all stop watching Lost and instead watch NCIS: Los Angeles. Yikes! Intense!"
"It’s been a rough few days for us uber-obsessive Lost fans. People are calling for the heads of the Lost writers, calling them liars, hating Kate more than anyone should ever hate someone so pretty, and threatening to give up on a show they’ve followed closely for six years. The Lost writers have fought back by telling us that if we thought the episode was “filler”, we should all stop watching Lost and instead watch NCIS: Los Angeles. Yikes! Intense!"
..Ok then
I didn't dig it up, i was just browsing a site and saw it...You're becoming the czar of this thread G.A.Y, and in a bit of an annoying way to be honest.
You still felt the need to try and prove me wrong in something that is pure opinions, and a topic that we had all moved on from.
I'm the Tsar of this thread am I? Well thats a new oneJust watched it, very meh.
Just a thing about the "what if they didn't crash" storyline.
In the first episode of season 3 we see the plane crashing and Ben and the others watching. Ben tells Ethan to go get a list of names of the people on the plane. Now in the "what if" story Ethan is a doctor at a hospital at a time literally hours after the crash, how?
Just a thing about the "what if they didn't crash" storyline.
In the first episode of season 3 we see the plane crashing and Ben and the others watching. Ben tells Ethan to go get a list of names of the people on the plane. Now in the "what if" story Ethan is a doctor at a hospital at a time literally hours after the crash, how?
Because they also time travel to the 70's before ethan is born. Juilet was the doctor when ethan was born
Good point the idea of them not crashing would mean they would never have travelled through time and Ethan's life in particular would take a different curve because of it.
Maybe that's why he specifically was written as the child that Juliet would help be born. So they could write him in as the doctor who doesn't want to inject Claire rather than the bloke who does inject her.