In terms of mystery and suspense, I think its what made the show so big. You had mystery about the island, as well as characters. Nearly every week would have a new character highlighted in the flashbacks. And then crazy stuff like Polar bears, the numbers, the button, Desmond being introduced (just seen the ep in season 3 where he already knows about Lockes speech, letting it slip to Hurley).We watched the whole way through for the first time recently. I’d watched a couple of episodes way back when it first came out but was too stoned at the time to really remember any of it.
It’s a seriously gripping show, particularly the first few seasons. One of the few shows I’d genuinely not want to stop watching. They went mental in the late stages but feck it, it was quality, probably my favourite show behind GoT.
Ahh ok,I remember Ana Lucia being written out for that but didnt realise Libby had the same issue.Haha done the exact same thing. I’m on season 3 halfway through. It’s fantastic. I looked into the Libby thing. She got a DUI or something so had to write her out the show. Same with Ana Lucia. Ecko also quit, they had big plans for him (which they basically gave his scenes to Locke I think).
In terms of mystery and suspense, I think its what made the show so big. You had mystery about the island, as well as characters. Nearly every week would have a new character highlighted in the flashbacks. And then crazy stuff like Polar bears, the numbers, the button, Desmond being introduced (just seen the ep in season 3 where he already knows about Lockes speech, letting it slip to Hurley).
Ahh ok,I remember Ana Lucia being written out for that but didnt realise Libby had the same issue.
It made for a fascinating scene but showed Michael not to be a good person (although explained his motive he would do anything for his son)
So s3 my wife is questioning the show in terms of quality. Its focused a lot on the Others. Her guess is everybody will die or they are already all dead (in purgatory).
S3 I wasnt a fan of on the original run (when it seemed like they focused too much on Jack, Sawyer and Kate). But thats what I remembered (I also thought that it was s2 that did that and I was wrong, s2 was great)
One thing ive noticed is my initial thoughts were the majority of the 'Others' are absolute dicks. You have them putting a pacemaker (or lying about it) in Sawyer, you have them shocking Sawyer, making Kate do labour in the heat in a dress, locking up Jack
Then i thought about it and its got similarities to the survivors. (But again the whole thing started cos Ethan was a psycho and the other mole who Ana Lucia killed on the other side of the island)
SO yeah, Others are not good people.
I still find the bit funny where Boon goes to save his sister from drowning and then drowns himself
I havent hated s3 so far. (five eps in). Its a good thing i dont remember most of this season so its still intriguing to me, feels almost fresh given it was 15 years ago.Yeh it’s funny as the Others think they’re normal people who don’t deserve harm. Super offended Ana Lucia killed Ethan, Ben even boasting how he was a top surgeon. But what do they expect when kidnapping and killing the survivors.
Season 2 is superb. Correct that season 3 takes a new direction but it still works for me. Has some of the best scenes with Desmond and Charlie too. My memory gets foggy after this season but I do remember it getting messy.
Yes youre correct. I think there was a misremembering here.Eh? Didn't he die when the heroin plane fell off the cliff with him in it?
Eh? Didn't he die when the heroin plane fell off the cliff with him in it?
Ahh yeah that was it. Still funnyYes youre correct. I think there was a misremembering here.
Boone went out to save some faceless survivor in the water. He went a bit but then couldn't really swim. Jack went out and ended up saving Boone and not the woman who just washed away and died.
Been years since I've watched a single episode. Do they ever explain the polar bear bit?
I kinda feel they do but haven't seen it yet on my second watch (unless I missed it)Been years since I've watched a single episode. Do they ever explain the polar bear bit?
I just checked epguides and that's not rightSeason three was harmed at the time by being on for two weeks off for a week on for three weeks off for two weeks etc.
The whole show is amazing.
Dharma people doing experiments in the 70’s. They just left them there. As mundane an explanation as was possible.Been years since I've watched a single episode. Do they ever explain the polar bear bit?
Season 4 or 5 are fairly watchable despite issues, it's just Daniel Faraday feels like character from Fringe. Wouldn't be surprised if the two series got parralel connection somewhere as a deep easter egg.Season 5 is so much better than I remember. I think binging defo helped with all the time travel stuff. But the time travel stuff was done well, especially completing loops or explaining how people may or may not remember their past meetings (eg Faradays mothers behaviour going forward from that point)
Or Miles dad.
The Juliet/Sawyer relationship was a great part of the season. Also Jack and Kate came off as bad / worse characters and very selfish at times.
Also first time we see Jacob (and his end ) and fauxLocke which was a great reveal.
I do remember at the time (which was about 15 years ago) having such a great anticipation for the final season of Lost and it was discussed so much with my Uni friends and my work lot (water cooler/ lunch talk)
Season 5 is so much better than I remember.
Locke's flashbacks were horrendous. At least the other flashbacks had some variations. This guy was just getting trolled by his father and losing body parts every single time.
WHAT? Ridiculous opinion!
It was heartbreaking the first time. After that it was basically groundhog day with the bloke suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.
Not intentionalI didn't mind the ending at all - loved the show. However the biggest feck you was finding out Locke didn't grow a backbone and basically just died as a failure of a human being in every sense.
Why was that?I agree with this actually. The back story I really enjoyed was Eko’s. Shame he had to leave the show earlier than expected
Why was that?
OK thanks, I didn’t know thatI read it was because his parents died
I loved fringe and know what you mean.Season 4 or 5 are fairly watchable despite issues, it's just Daniel Faraday feels like character from Fringe. Wouldn't be surprised if the two series got parralel connection somewhere as a deep easter egg.
I'll always dig John Locke as a bad guy. He had status of immortal after finding himself on the island, then went fully immortal after resurrection / possession. From start to finish superb character. Worth to watch last season just how the island slowly consumes him in every possible way.
Always loved season 5. "Locke", my favourite character, finally growing some balls and showing everyone that he is boss and knows the island better than anyone was great. He basically tells Richard and Ben that he is sick of the secrecy and rules, even calling Richard out that he thinks he is making all those rules up as he goes along. And in one of the final episodes he reveals to Ben that the real reason he wants to go see Jacob is to kill him. What a "WTF"-moment that was! And Ben's face is amazing. I haven't seen this for over a decade and can still picture the scene. LOST was like a freaking drug trip for me. Too bad season 6, although not so bad, was a bit of a comedown.
So season 6 is a mixed bag so far. The first episode was ok for the initial point that we see there's a different timeline which looks like the crash didn't happen and we see stuff like the island is under water, but then it's kinda a waste of stuff happening in that timeline.
So we get about three episodes of meh stuff from that. But on the island we get some good stuff like the temple , sayid resurrected,, but then tortured. And some characters introduced that have been on the island but never mentioned but play a big part. A dude that can keep the monster out (but they start putting circles of ash or whatever...)
Then we get a string of really good episodes and it looks like things are happening with Des returning, some of the deaths and the planning / plotting of sawyer, flocke, and widmore... And people just seemingly changing sides then back
In the middle is a really good episode about Richard.
We then get what looks like is going to be an episode explaining a lot of things but ...
Across the Sea
This was a problematic episode. It made Jacob look like a real tool and Flocke/mib (who still remained nameless) sympathetic.
This was such a weird strange episode and I have a feeling the writers completely dropped the ball with this specific episode and caused themselves more issues rather than resolving a lot of stuff.
Three episodes left (and strangely I didn't remember anything of this specific season except knowing there were a few deaths and an episode for Richard and Jacob/mib)
So finished Lost season 6. Overall a lot of quality especially in the first five seasons, but I honestly think s6 ruined the shows legacy. It had some good scenes here and there but overall didnt makes sense.
The finale was actually a good episode on its own, and mostly due to the resolution of the characters. But if you actually think about it, it also didnt make sense.
Why is this 'place' that they all dreamed up together to meet, including people like Keamy, or having our Losties getting kidnapped and beaten. Or shot? Why would they dream up that together?
Whos idea was it to have Keamy there? Also how does Ben make it there but MIchael doesnt?
Ben basically did a shit load more stuff that was worse than MIchael. Did he get redemption by being Hurleys number two? But then shouldnt michael get redemption for sacrificing his life on the freighter so that others could escape?
They wasted so much time on a lot of things that they could have easily answered some questions here and there.
They answered some stuff in the epilogue that was released as an extra, but tbh it didnt need hurley in charge for that. They could have just had that as part of a dharma viewing on the island to new people. (polar bears, electromagnetism affecting babies, the bird, the dharma drop happening)
They could have even just had a scene where one of Widmores guys was shot or had a remark (to tie it to Juliet shooting during a time jump)
Across the Sea was a turning point and not in a good way. It absolutely ruined the concept of answers being provided. They even had a line in the episode(?) about 'if I give you an answer, you will have more questions'. That seems the way the writers felt about the island.
A lot of people state 'this was about the characters' to forgive the writers, but tbh, the island and its mysteries was a huge part of the show. They used a distraction technique with the flashsideways and then the emotional meetup at the end to try distract you from actually giving answers. Which is funny, cos the end is perfectly fine if they had just spent one more episode to answer some of the island stuff questions
Whilst I agree the execution of Across the Sea was poorly done, I think the biggest sin for it was the placement of the episode. Everything was getting built up for the final push and then WHAM! we’re taken completely out of the main story to see the origins of Jacob and MIB.
I'm pretty sure the actor just wasn't available. I'm sure there was something about how he was done with the show and didn't want to come back.