It was boring tumescent shit from two teams devoid of quality.
No one cares about sprints.
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It was boring tumescent shit from two teams devoid of quality.
No one cares about sprints.
It was a team laden with injuries missing several key players under a new manager for just a few days after a two week international break.
What is the feeling towards Sturridge from Liverpool fans ? Will he ever be able to play regular football or is he always going to be in and out with injuries ? Is it time to look at other options due to his unreliability ?
Damn, it really looks like Liverpool will win the double this year: "the alterate PL" AND "the teams that made more sprints and ran further than Spurs cup". We're fecked.
I think if we didn't up his wages during the 13/14 season he'd be an alright player to have on our books. I mean 50-60k a week for a striker that only plays half the games but scores as often as he does doesn't represent bad value.
But he's on 120k-140k a week, so we're effectively paying him 260k for the games he plays. Still cheaper & better than Rooney if you look at it like that
As it stands now, eh... It's really unfortunate. I'd give him this season and the next to find fitness and maintain form. If not, he might have to go.
We already did with the signing of benteke.
You can't be too critical. A post at WHL is a good result no matter how you look at it.
Make no mistake, Klopp will improve LFC, and deliver the title in 3-4 years. Let's just hope they don't make top 4 this year though.
I agree with this. Also, we've got United, Arsenal, Everton, and Spurs away out of the way, and that's nothing but a good thing for us.
It's very sad you had to pull this one out of the bag. It's worthless to boast about la
Yeah, it's an absolute certainty when they have to compete against minnows like United, City, Arsenal and Chelsea.
Jesus Christ, I think Klopp will do well there and could make Liverpool a title-challenging team within that time-frame, but to act as if it's a sure fire thing is ludicrous.
Klopp doesn't even begin to understand the PL. It's not like any other league. LVG has found that out to his cost to be honest. All the teams can beat you now...with the money in this league. He will think he has a system..then bang...Bournemouth will beat them. He has to have time to understand that. This is one feck of a competitive league now because of the money.
Liverpool are the hit the post kings after all .
And dropped 9 points out of 12 . Decent form I suppose .
I am sure he will improve them, but it will take a lot more than gradual improvements for a bunch of turds to be world beaters.
I look at it more as dropped points for Arsenal & Spurs. Everton was always 50/50 going into it, and we're not going to OT as favourites for a while yet.
We're 3/4 points away from 4th having played 4 outta the 6 big opponents for us away from home. City/Chelsea coming up close will be tough, but if we can less than 6-8 points away from the top 4 spots by the end of the year, then we have a real chance to get some revenge in the reverse fixtures.
As you see, I'm a glass half full kinda guy
However, I'm also a realist. I said I'd take Europa League qualification and some good cup runs this year, with a serious top 4 challenge next year... I'm sticking by that.He will learn the PL style. His relatively young age for a manager is a main factor in achieving that but pressure of the toughest league and lack of funds for biggest names may keep him down unless he'll have a good scouting department and bit of luck.
One thing's for sure, Liverpool became way more interesting football club no matter where they'll end in upcoming years.
One thing's for sure, Liverpool became way more interesting football club no matter where they'll end in upcoming years.
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This.First post says Klopp had no time to introduce his way of playing but 2nd post ends with no. of sprints data and gegenpress term. That's Liverpool fan for you.
Hard fought point between 2 mid table teams. Expected result
Liverpool fans trying to show how Klopp already improved them
Tbf to Klopp you can't do a lot in 1 week especially with the quality of the players who are available to him.
Tbf to Klopp you can't do a lot in 1 week especially with the quality of the players who are available to him.
I just don't see Europa League qualification this season for this Liverpool side. Klopp has a massive rebuilding job ahead of him. It can be done, but FSG will have to spend some serious cash.
I watched the game to see if liverpool had any changes to tactics, i Noticed these-
- The press, it was more targeted, done with brains and not just for the sake of it, they cramped tottenham for room especially erikson
- Lucas played good few yards ahead than he normally plays, i think i saw him making a forward pass and even take a shot!
- Sakho looked good, skrtl handled an off form kane well, clyne looks decent, moreno is just inconsistent within a match
- Klopp's press is highly exaustive, after 15 mins liverpool players were fecked, they conceded that half started again in second half and could press in patches. I do not think the press will be as successful here as it was for dortmund, because, the pace of prem league is higher, also number of matches in premier league is more along with that there is no winter break. You may see many more injuries to pool players,tiredness in matches might become a problem.
- Benteke does not fit klopp's system i think, wonder what happens with transfer committee and him?
If sprints were goals, though...
Isn't EL 5th and 6th? They'll definitely get that.
Very similar to his Dortmund side last year. Lots of headless running and pressing but lacking any ideas on the ball.
Klopp will make them obviously better, but today was pretty poor in terms of quality. A lot of players were injured though, especially in the forward department.
Liverpool fans trying to show how Klopp already improved them
Tbf to Klopp you can't do a lot in 1 week especially with the quality of the players who are available to him.
Well technically speaking, he kinda did.
Or maybe the players are actually playing for the manager?Well technically speaking, he kinda did.
I saw by myself that they were running like headless chickens in first 20 mins, i don't need picture evidence for that. I also saw that they were shit after that spell, most probably because players are not used to play on this intensity.Well technically speaking, he kinda did.
Facht (i just love that word) is that there pressing didn't resulted in goal and that they got tired ofter good start and it this case you can't say it was an improvement.
It's still an improvement. It's also an aspect of his style.
This is the improvement I saw today. We may not have won, been decisive in the final third, passed the ball perfectly or really troubled Lloris, but there was an energy to periods of our play that I've not seen for a while.
Plus we were missing a lot of key players today. Things can only get better from here, but a draw at the lane is by no means a bad result to start with.
I have watched the match, sort of. It was very boring, so I was computer working at the same time. Hence, I might have missed something.
The pressing at times looked not bad to me, but still far away from being smart and comprehensive.
What was missing most, though, but that's a general problem in the EPL: There was no slick, fast, and smart passing forward yet to to see.
Because that's the other 50% of Kloppo's game that most people seem to ignore: Klopp wants to win the ball back quickly, true. But that's only half the deal. The rest is quick and precise passing. Not the typical English headless chicken style, also known as 'I-run-forward-with-that-ball-I-jut-got-until-I-reach-a-dead-end'. Which is what I have seen today from Liverpool most of the times. That's the real transformation Kloppo has to achieve.
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I know we all fecking hate Liverpool but the neutral in me, who saw most of the game saw a performance that had solid foundations being executed decently by a very mixed squad. I btw thought it was a good game to watch. Lots of technical plays by Can, Lamela, Erikssen, Ali (was very impressed by him), Dembele, Kane etc. Ok it amounted to nothing but enjoyable on the eye if you appreciate that.
Basically, if Klopp gets all his players fit and firing on all cyclinders, it wouldn't surprise me to see a repeat of the 12/13; I don't necessarily mean them fighting for the league (although that may happen) but I mean the attractive playing style and how everyone looked like the very good players they are capable of being.
I fecking it but watch this interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34562353, how can you dislike the guy? He made a very telling point about acknowledging Spur's class yet not many in this country would expect them to win the league so he knows how much there is do.
The neutral in me wants to this brand of football being played, the Utd fan in me wants otherwise.
Basically, if Klopp gets all his players fit and firing on all cyclinders, it wouldn't surprise me to see a repeat of the 12/13; I don't necessarily mean them fighting for the league (although that may happen) but I mean the attractive playing style and how everyone looked like the very good players they are capable of being.
I fecking it but watch this interview http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34562353, how can you dislike the guy? He made a very telling point about acknowledging Spur's class yet not many in this country would expect them to win the league so he knows how much there is do.
The neutral in me wants to this brand of football being played, the Utd fan in me wants otherwise.
Once the Gomez, Ings and Sturridge news filtered through I was expecting nothing in terms of improvement today. None whatsoever. Specially not with players that are pretty vanilla this season: Lucas and Milner mainly. Thought we'd lose 1-0 and probably more.
As it happens I saw something that pleased me. The game itself was absolute sh*te (Spurs played their part in that, it was a WHL after all), but that sense of forboding has left me for the first time in weeks. Doesn't matter who's fit and who's injured. The next game(s) can't come quick enough.
Edit: criticalanalysis living up to his name above.
As it happens I saw something that pleased me. The game itself was absolute sh*te (Spurs played their part in that, it was a WHL after all), but that sense of forboding has left me for the first time in weeks. Doesn't matter who's fit and who's injured. The next game(s) can't come quick enough.
Edit: criticalanalysis living up to his name above.
No matter who you put at Liverpool as coach, when you have a midfield of Can, Milner and Lucas then you will not play well.
I rate Can but look at who he will have at his disposal if he had fit players (only a matter of time/luck). Henderson and Can, with Countinho ahead of them and Firminho/Ibe/Origi (thought he had some nice touches today) on the wing with Sturridge/Benteke up top.
I really want to believe they will be sh|t but an educated guess (with an optimistic outlook) is that they will improve considerably under Klopp.
Markovic will also thrive under Klopp when he returns, I reckon.
Midfield is light. Assuming we move towards 4-2-3-1, a midfield two of Hendo/Can behind Coutinho/Firmino/Lallana isn't bad at all, but we have the funds to improve on any positions the manager sees fit.
We definitely need more depth in midfield - Moreso than any other area of the pitch, in my opinion.
I think Liverpool seriously needs a rapid winger. Mané could actually be a great fit for Liverpool.