That's true, but this isn't that Sturridge anymore. His body is fecked and he doesn't have any pace any more. He's still a magnificent footballer though.
Liverpool 2018/19
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Yeah I was kind of laughing out loud when i posted thatKindly feck off. Surely a joke?
Fingers crossed Mane signs a new contract soon.
Yeah I was kind of laughing out loud when i posted that
But you do think it's your year, don't you? Go on, you can say it. No judgement.
We only offered him a new one 11 days ago iirc. He is just as important as the other two from the front three, so he'll sign in the next couple of months hopefully. If not worst casw scenario we will get £100 million for him.
This is priceless.
Says the guy calling Klopp a fraud. As Don Alfredo explained to you they had all their superstars at their peak during that period. They also reached the UCL final twice in 3 years not bad for a "team in transition" as you put it.
Not good that they've started where they left off.
However, over the last decade i'd be surprised if on stats West Ham haven't been the worst away side in the league. Pure banker material.
However, over the last decade i'd be surprised if on stats West Ham haven't been the worst away side in the league. Pure banker material.
no I won't say it.The problem is they're getting better every year and I can't see klopp ever leaving them. They might become a force in europe and england if he stays for many years.
In fairness, they mauled us 0-3 at Anfield a couple months before Klopp took over a few years back. You may remember Dejan Ronaldo doing stepovers in his own half to concede a goal in that game!
Just checked: just last season they shipped 4 goals in 7 PL games. And plenty more games when they let in 3.
Who cares about Dortmund anyway.
What has Klopp achieved during his time at Liverpool that Brenda and Rafa did not also achieve? The latter at least had a run at the title during their stints at the club, one of them even won the CL. Klopp is all promises at this point and nothing more than a fraud until proven otherwise.
This Liverpool team look like they might challenge this year, but only after Klopp went against his word spent an exorbitant amount of money in the transfer market. If he pulls it off this season, he will have done what a long line of managers before him have been doing since the inception of the premier league; buying league titles.
You can paint the picture any way you want.
They weren’t great. Rice had a shocker in midfield and I’m sure we’ll get a tougher test against Palace next week.
So salty
So guilty until proven innocent?
This is unfair though. Allegri and Simeone and Klopp all took much inferior teams to the final and played against a much superior team. They lost against the favorites. I'm a Liverpool fan but I still think Allegri and Simeone are better managers than Klopp though.
Yes, I think.
Salty is not the word. What will happen on here if we actually win something. They'll fecking ban the lot of us, even you who has been on here longer than most of the manc posters.
They seem to have realised that genuine quality costs money and now they're willing to spend it. Keita, Fabinho and Alisson are all good signings IMO. Shaqiri is there for depth anyway.
Don't understand what you are trying to say mate. I didn't criticize those three for losing in the final. I praised them for having runs to the final, which other managers couldn't even manage.
I think Allegri, Simeone, Klopp all belong to the best managers in the world with Guardiola and Zidane.
If you truly believe he is a fraud then you really know nothing about football
ok sorry misunderstand what you said.
Do you even know what fraud means? You can't call Klopp a fraud and then want people to disregard Dortmund where he managed for 7 years.
Yes he hasn't won a trophy yet at Liverpool but he's improved the squad tremendously since he's taken over. He's spent money obviously as has Mourinho because that's the only way anyone is going to catch a brilliant City side.
There's painting your own picture then there's being blinded by your bias so much that you make over the top ridiculous statements as you've done.
If I'm not mistaken, out of today's starting line-up, Firminho & Milner were the only 2 players that Klopp inherited from Rodgers when he took over nearly 3 years ago. It's something of a joke when some people on here are trying to play him down on the basis he hasn't won a trophy yet with Liverpool. At the end of the day he'll be judged when his Liverpool managerial career is over. If he doesn't win anything of significance, then maybe his time at the club might be deemed as a failure. However, until, or unless, that day comes, his progress thus far with Liverpool has to be viewed with admiration. It's worth remembering too, that in the 3 years or so he's been busy building the team he wants, he's gotten us to 3 finals where we've lost to 3 very good sides. Liverpool supporters are very happy to have him at our club. I doubt most oppo fans aren't though.
yeah no need to panic yet.
On a side note, maybe wishful thinking but hoping Gomez makes that CB spot his own.
Was a good win today. Any other PL era and I'd be eyeing the title optimistically. Will need about 90 points minimum to challenge this Man City though, which would require a hell of a lot of good fortune.
If it wasn't for Mane we wouldn't have Keita. We both know that, so hopefully he'll sign in next 6 months at least. After the bullshit Lovren has pulled I can't help but wish and pray Gomez makes that spot his own. I said it during the world cup and I'll say it again but we can not trust Lovren. This time he has added deceit to his incompetence, so we need to hope Gomez is over his injury problems because alternative is Klavan which none of us want.
So why is it then, despite Jose's League Cup win, Europa League Cup win, & last season's 2nd place finish, a lot of United supporters are critical of him, whereas Spurs & Liverpool fans seem to be very content with their respective managers ?
Come on @redman5 fix up! You forgot the community shield they won under moaninho as well!
"Our expectations are higher" stuff incoming, whilst a lot of them can't even stand to look at the boring stuff they're served, and spend their Sunday afternoon watching us trash West Ham and are then disappointed we didn't drop points
If he doesn’t manage to win anything with Liverpool can’t he simply be considered a good manager, below the top tier but with some positives against him?
I don’t see why managers either have to be amazing or terrible. Where’s the middle ground?
I don’t see why managers either have to be amazing or terrible. Where’s the middle ground?
When is Matip back?
He's a very good manager of course but not an elite imo. Right now.
"Our expectations are higher" stuff incoming, whilst a lot of them can't even stand to look at the boring stuff they're served, and spend their Sunday afternoon watching us trash West Ham and are then disappointed we didn't drop points
Although what's your lots excuse for watching 90 minutes of boring boring United on Friday night
Hopefully available for next game against Palace but wouldn't be suprised to see Gomez start again. Matip is a conundrum because he makes me only a fraction less nervous than Lovren when he plays.
Noone will be banned but you're so smug you might get the chop even before you win something if you win something.
I watched your second half in the pub simply because it was on the telly, wouldn't bother otherwise mate.Although what's your lots excuse for watching 90 minutes of boring boring United on Friday night
Yeah fraud is a very strange word to use.
He's not claimed to be a legendary manager, and has a reputation for performing well with non favourites in a league. Seems he's doing exactly that.
What is true though, is that he's had a pretty easy ride up until now in the press.
Those record breaking signings mean there IS expectation on them now, so winning nothing again will definitely put the pressure on.
Likewise. I don't watch Liverpool unless it's a big game. Was surprised in our post game thread the likes of @Cassady were giving us full assessments on our performance though.
One game against WHU and he's already more complete than Kante.
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