Liverpool 2018/19

By how many points will Liverpool win the title this season?

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Utd's record against Liverpool?

Even after Fergie went we've still beat you a lot more than you've beat us.

Did you not see me mention the Old Trafford game?

Yeah but come on guys 2 legged European ties are completely different. A one off final on a neutral ground (especially considering both our managers records in finals) and you could rightly say you would be strong favourites. Two legs and the European Anfield factor definitely rules out any "advantage" due to recent league results.
 
Yeah but come on guys 2 legged European ties are completely different. A one off final on a neutral ground (especially considering both our managers records in finals) and you could rightly say you would be strong favourites. Two legs and the European Anfield factor definitely rules out any "advantage" due to recent league results.

No. You couldn’t even score against us at Anfield. Pogba was missing for both games as well. We would have knocked you out.
 
Yeah but come on guys 2 legged European ties are completely different. A one off final on a neutral ground (especially considering both our managers records in finals) and you could rightly say you would be strong favourites. Two legs and the European Anfield factor definitely rules out any "advantage" due to recent league results.

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So the European games are even more important? I don’t buy it. All I read from Liverpool fans was how you would smash us in both games last season and you failed to score a goal
 
No. You couldn’t even score against us at Anfield. Pogba was missing for both games as well. We would have knocked you out.

Like you knocked us out of the Europa League a few years ago when Klopp had only been manager a few months - LVG excuses to follow.
 
I am you only needed to score one to beat us or Everton (sorry it was west brom wasn’t it??) at home or stoke so a defender doesn’t help you but don’t let facts get in the way of another good story hey

And a defender isn’t going to mean you have a clean sheet every game
You’re not even making any sense now.
 
Yeah but come on guys 2 legged European ties are completely different. A one off final on a neutral ground (especially considering both our managers records in finals) and you could rightly say you would be strong favourites. Two legs and the European Anfield factor definitely rules out any "advantage" due to recent league results.

What's this now?
 
Like you knocked us out of the Europa League a few years ago when Klopp had only been manager a few months - LVG excuses to follow.

Different manager, different team. Please don’t come back with anymore nonsense replies.
 
Like you knocked us out of the Europa League a few years ago when Klopp had only been manager a few months - LVG excuses to follow.

Played one bad game Away at anfield not too surprising don’t forget we also beat you twice in the league that season too
 
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So the European games are even more important? I don’t buy it. All I read from Liverpool fans was how you would smash us in both games last season and you failed to score a goal

Its not about importance - its a two legged evening kick off European tie vs a single prem game kicking off usually at lunchtime.
 
Only a Liverpool fan would point to games against a LVG United side whilst looking past what happened last year :lol:

Pure delusion.
 
Played one bad game Away at anfield not too surprising don’t forget we also beat you twice in the league that season too

So you just proved his point. You beat us in the league twice that season yet couldn't do it in Europe. It's almost like 2 legged ties are a different kettle of fish to a one off game in the league....

I'm not even sure what you guys are arguing about, some fictional scenario where United met and knocked us out of the UCL last season?
 
Only a Liverpool fan would point to games against a LVG United side whilst looking past what happened last year :lol:

Pure delusion.

Only a Utd fan would avoid all the other scenario's mentioned in my post.
 
Do you understand the meaning of the word usually?

I do but do you understand the meaning of factual evidence?

Your making up stuff to suit your narrative instead of looking at the facts

Last 2 years we played Liverpool on Monday nights so that is as usually as we have played them at lunch time over the time of Jose being in charge so usually you are talking shit and ignoring the facts

Both times you failed to score despite it being a United Liverpool game at anfield at night
 
Last year I'd have gladly swapped our whole midfield for that of united,spurs,city or chelsea.
We've really upgraded this year. Have a feeling Keita is going to look like bargain of the century by Christmas.
The spine of the team is in place. Becker,Van Dijk,Fabinho,Keita and the front 3 are all on long contracts and entering their prime.
We have a clear idea and dare I say "philosophy" about how we are going to play.
It's great to watch and we might even win something.
Happy days.
 
I do but do you understand the meaning of factual evidence?

Your making up stuff to suit your narrative instead of looking at the facts

Last 2 years we played Liverpool on Monday nights so that is as usually as we have played them at lunch time over the time of Jose being in charge so usually you are talking shit and ignoring the facts

Last year we played at lunchtime. Is that factual enough for you?
 
So you just proved his point. You beat us in the league twice that season yet couldn't do it in Europe. It's almost like 2 legged ties are a different kettle of fish to a one off game in the league....

I'm not even sure what you guys are arguing about, some fictional scenario where United met and knocked us out of the UCL last season?

What has Europe got to do with a game between united and Liverpool? We drew at Old Trafford not an extraordinary result we lost at anfield again not extraordinary at all suited the narrative
 
Only a Utd fan would avoid all the other scenario's mentioned in my post.

Should we look at the Sir Alex era then? Would that prove anything about the teams from last year? You Liverpool fans are hilarious.
 
This is probably the most boring discussion in this thread ever. Debating whether Liverpool or United would win in a hypothetical European game next season.

Noone knows, and that is fact. Another fact is that Mourinho knows how to set up against Klopp, so United would probably be favorites.
 
This is probably the most boring discussion in this thread ever. Debating whether Liverpool or United would win in a hypothetical European game next season.

Noone knows, and that is fact. Another fact is that Mourinho knows how to set up against Klopp, so United would probably be favorites.

It’s fun
 
This is probably the most boring discussion in this thread ever. Debating whether Liverpool or United would win in a hypothetical European game next season.

Noone knows, and that is fact. Another fact is that Mourinho knows how to set up against Klopp, so United would probably be favorites.
True enough. Maybe someone like Arsenal or Chelsea springs a surprise and comes back up again.

I’m glad we’ve signed a new keeper because Karius is a nightmare. Watching our friendly with Dortmund and he came out to intercept a ball, but passed it straight to one of their players. Lucky to get away with it.
 
This is probably the most boring discussion in this thread ever. Debating whether Liverpool or United would win in a hypothetical European game next season.

Noone knows, and that is fact. Another fact is that Mourinho knows how to set up against Klopp, so United would probably be favorites.

Before Mou went to United, Klopp's Dortmund has been superior most of the time albeit being a far lesser team to Madrid individually.

No one can predict those kind of games. Both are very good managers, United's squad was better last year but not by an insane amount. Although I'd agree United would've been slight favourites last year due to Lukaku being physically superior to Lovren and United's playing style. But it could easily have gone either way.
 
This is probably the most boring discussion in this thread ever. Debating whether Liverpool or United would win in a hypothetical European game next season.

Noone knows, and that is fact. Another fact is that Mourinho knows how to set up against Klopp, so United would probably be favorites.

The debate was actually about whether Utd would have knocked us out last season. But following on your line of thought Mourinho got the better of us many times in the league when it was him v Rafa - when it came to Europe he failed every time.
 
True enough. Maybe someone like Arsenal or Chelsea springs a surprise and comes back up again.

I’m glad we’ve signed a new keeper because Karius is a nightmare. Watching our friendly with Dortmund and he came out to intercept a ball, but passed it straight to one of their players. Lucky to get away with it.

It’s brilliant. Like I said earlier, I’ve never been more optimistic before a season than now.

Before Mou went to United, Klopp's Dortmund has been superior most of the time albeit being a far lesser team to Madrid individually.

No one can predict those kind of games. Both are very good managers, United's squad was better last year but not by an insane amount. Although I'd agree United would've been slight favourites last year due to Lukaku being physically superior to Lovren and United's playing style. But it could easily have gone either way.

That’s exactly it. No one can predict it. But if there’s one manager I’d like to avoid in a European playoff, it’s Mourinho.
As much as I can’t stand his brand of football, he seems to have Klopps number.

The debate was actually about whether Utd would have knocked us out last season. But following on your line of thought Mourinho got the better of us many times in the league when it was him v Rafa - when it came to Europe he failed every time.

That may be, but it’s a long time ago and last season United looked comfortable when they played us. As I said above, Mourinho is probably the manager I’d most prefer to avoid in a playoff.
 
Yeah but come on guys 2 legged European ties are completely different. A one off final on a neutral ground (especially considering both our managers records in finals) and you could rightly say you would be strong favourites. Two legs and the European Anfield factor definitely rules out any "advantage" due to recent league results.

We routinely play poorly at Anfield but tend to get a decent result, you routinely play poorly at Old Trafford and tend to lose.

I think we can agree on that.

A European two legged game, we can agree to disagree. It could go either way of course, our record against Liverpool is good but the only other european tie we had against you we lost so who knows.
 
After some of the highlights I just saw of our preseason defeat to Dortmund I think it's fair to say we are taking a risk even having Karius as our 2nd choice keeper. I could be wrong, but i think he will slip up if/when he comes in. He showed promise at times but I would send him to Freiburg right now if I could.
 
After some of the highlights I just saw of our preseason defeat to Dortmund I think it's fair to say we are taking a risk even having Karius as our 2nd choice keeper. I could be wrong, but i think he will slip up if/when he comes in. He showed promise at times but I would send him to Freiburg right now if I could.

If I was him I wouldn't want to be at the place and would ask for a loan. His confidence is gone, looks half-arsed and down on the tour, not even doing the basics now. No way I'd want him starting in the League/Fa cup away at Oldham or somewhere next season because we'd be first out.
 
After some of the highlights I just saw of our preseason defeat to Dortmund I think it's fair to say we are taking a risk even having Karius as our 2nd choice keeper. I could be wrong, but i think he will slip up if/when he comes in. He showed promise at times but I would send him to Freiburg right now if I could.

His head is completely gone. I genuinely think he's a decent keeper who made a step up a bit too early and its been disastrous. Unfortunately for him he picked a terrible game to have a horror show and it's never going to be forgotten.

He needs to move away from the English press/fans. Go back to Germany to a team where there's far less pressure and get his confidence back. Sitting on the bench at Liverpool stewing on it and probably getting abuse all year from away fans (maybe even his own ones) is not what he needs. Go elsewhere, get his head straight and slowly build himself back up. I hope he does to be honest, yeah I laughed along with everyone else when he made those mistakes but the abuse he got online and the way it's obviously impacted his career I'm rooting for him.
 
Bulaks.

Actually up until the summer of 2018 ,Your net spend was £80 million higher than ours. Ours was minus £30 million and yours was £50 million. Ours currently stands at £135.5 million. You've still to spend, therefore your net spend will increase closing that gap.
 
Because at United we have bigger expectations. Our fans even during sir alex era were demanding to an extent even after winning the CL in 08 , we became critical of him for dropping Tevez or after winning league in 10/11, we were critical of him for playing Scholes and Giggs or on many other occasions. That's what United fans are and other big teams like.madrid and barca are also the same(ok maybe not to an extent of Madrid fans who are crazy).

If you think United fans would have been blindly jizzing over klopp like you lot after 3 years then you have no clue. Fans would have been divided for him too if he was not winning and just screwing over at the crunch time. Klopp is performing in a safe atmosphere where you lot are just glad to be in top 4 and score some amazing goals. You lot are reminding me alot of arsenal fans from 2006 to 2013. If klopp doesnt win anything then all this hype will look foolish just like it looked with Wenger post 06. All the pretty football with no substance.
I agree. There are bigger expectations at Man United because, like I said, you have been succesful.

And I don't think anything about how you would have liked Klopp or not. I merely stated the obvious, that it adds to the pressure, when the fans are divided in their support. That's not a dig at you, if you thought that..

And yes.. We, the fans, are happy and united for the time being. It feels great. Long may it last.

And I will say this.. I'd rather play entertaining attacking football without winning, than boring defensive football without winning.
 
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