I'd feel a lot better with Fekir signing.
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I'd feel a lot better with Fekir signing.
Henderson, Milner, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Keita, Fabinho
Get over it man it won't happen anymore
Not high on quality even compared with us
Pogba, herrera, fellaini, matic, fred, mctominay
A lot depends on how Keita and Fabinho adapt. We'll have to wait and see, how they turn out, before judgement can be properly made.
Get over it man it won't happen anymore
A week before we signed Allison, everyone was briefed that Ward was going to be allowed to stake a first team spot this season.
Everyone is posturing at the moment. I still think we'll cough up around the time the other French world cup players would join pre-season training.
I know what you mean, there is something inauthentic about how City were suddenly a big club because of a ludicrous cash injection that takes the sting out of them winning league titles compared to a Liverpool or Arsenal. Then again if we have years and years of it then I suspect it might be different.
Yep. It's a bad idea. We all know Klopp will be playing Karius in the League cup/FA Cup but hopefully he will still field strong enough teams to blow the opposition away. Also as @SquishyMcSquish has added it seems his head is completely gone, he's on Insta talking about 'haters' and all of this, I don't think he realises he's a keeper who has dropped two absolute clangers in a European cup final to only come back and perform shite in preseason a few months later. I would have sold him and kept Ward 100%. At least we got a little pay day from the Ward sale. We basically got Shaqiri for the price of Ward.
aye, there's not a lot wrong with your transfer prices negotiation committee, atm
in or out
in or out
I expect we'll be getting paydays for both karius and mignolet now that they know they have no chance anymore.
Is there an old head on a free somewhere?
Is there an old head on a free somewhere?
Me too. He will be ridiculed over every mistake he makes, and he will never hear the end of his perfomance in the final. The only thing he can do is shut up, and prove to everybody when played, that he's a good keeper. Does he have it in him? I don't think so. A lot of pressure on a young kid. He should go back to Germany and start all over.
No chance both of them leave with Ward having already gone. Give Mignolet the #2 spot, and give Karius a chance elsewhere.
I think that three from Keita, Fabinho, Wijnaldum and Henderson, with Milner and made of glass Lallana as back up, is so much stronger than we've been in recent memory. At a push we can play Firmino as a 10, start Shaqiri and switch Salah or Mane to the middle. Lots of options available.
Unless Clyne goes I can see Trent Alexander Arnold getting some cup games in midfield which is where he's likely to end up long term.
In my opinion we'll be bringing in one more player minimum (Fekir/new CB or both) and possibly a surprise loan deal if no Fekir.
I've got no worries at all about Keita settling in - he's a beast and I'm still in shock that we managed to get him.
Unless Clyne goes I can see Trent Alexander Arnold getting some cup games in midfield which is where he's likely to end up long term.
In my opinion we'll be bringing in one more player minimum (Fekir/new CB or both) and possibly a surprise loan deal if no Fekir.
I've got no worries at all about Keita settling in - he's a beast and I'm still in shock that we managed to get him.
It all means nothing. Every club is different and operates in the lane that they are in, to the best of their ability.
It's for this reason that ridiculous points of comparison like Net Spend are nonsensical.
Best case for every team is Real Madrid and Ronaldo. Let a team develop a top 5 player of all time. Buy him for a world record. Have his best years. Accumulate trophies. Then sell the player for a profit.
It never happens like that. Everything has a point of concession. Everyone concedes ground.
Boiling whole leagues, clubs and player sales down to a +/- metric is wholly ridiculous.
Think there is every chance both leave. We just need a functional backup keeper somewhere.
If they want to go, Klopp will let them.
With the amount of talk coming from Aulas, I feel like there’s still a slim chance. He won’t stop talking about Fekir.Get over it man it won't happen anymore
While getting Fekir would be nice, I’d much rather get someone decent to cover for Firmino when he tires/gets injured. As of now, none of the options are in any shape or form top 4 material.
Wouldn't Fekir act as cover for Bobby?
Coutinho replacement.
Think it is pointless to try for a backup to firmino. No one does what he does. He's a genuinely unique striker.
I think a mix of playing Mane and Salah centrally, experimenting with guys like Fekir and Lallana as false 9s if we need his playmaking qualities up front more than goals and finding out just how good Brewster is will do enough. The key point is making sure that no matter the constellation we still have quality players up front. Shaqiri, and Fekir, would help with that. Origi, Ings, Solanke do not.
Sturridge is a bit of a wildcard in all this. But I think the basic assumption has to be that he does not exist, but may surprisingly and spontaneously manifest a performance out of the blue.
My guess would be, that Salah goes central if Firmino is injured, and Shaqiri will take the right spot. What else is there to do? Sturridge, Origi, Ings, Solanke? None of them good enough. I'd switch them all for one decent backup honestly.
@B20 I agree with all of what you've written. When Firminho looks off you actually realize he's doing a ton of work which benefits other attackers such as Mane and Salah. But because he's difficult to replace or back-up, my point was that having a skilled attacker in Fekir would go a ways to cover for Firminho's absence.
That said, I imagine Fekir would be brought in to start.
That said, I imagine Fekir would be brought in to start.
Fekir looks good on paper, but if his health is questionable then it's the right thing to pull out.
We have no proper striker backup as of now. The closest thing to Firmino we have is Ings, and he wants to move. Sturridge is very good technically and is one of the best in pre-season so far, but can break anytime. Origi seems hopeless. Solanke is young and needs some decent loan spell.
I also wonder what happens with Markovic, seems like he tries to impress.
We have no proper striker backup as of now. The closest thing to Firmino we have is Ings, and he wants to move. Sturridge is very good technically and is one of the best in pre-season so far, but can break anytime. Origi seems hopeless. Solanke is young and needs some decent loan spell.
I also wonder what happens with Markovic, seems like he tries to impress.
What's our next option then? The gap in the 10 position left by coutinho and Lallana's injuries hasn't been filled yet. I don't expect Lallana to fill it either.
Opened thread expecting discussions about formations, lineups, squad management, injuries, etc. Instead there's just shitposting and some net spend crap that no one cares about. 
Can Klopp build a mean defence as that seemed to be LFC's biggest issue last year? They conceded too many for a title challenge right?
Can Klopp build a mean defence as that seemed to be LFC's biggest issue last year? They conceded too many for a title challenge right?
How on earth is Sanchez a flop? That is hysterical. He played literally every single game last season from the moment he moved to Spurs, including CL games. He kept the best CB in the league for the past 3 seasons out of the team in Toby Alderweireld for about 4 months of the season. He is 21 years old. The guy is absolute class and will get better and better. He had a very good world cup too by all accounts.
Seriously man what the hell. He is proving to be an excellent buy.
Sissoko sure. Aurier and Moura how can you judge them already? Moura moved in January and hardly played. He needs more time, Aurier too, you can't call players a flop after one season in a new league.
As far as flops go, Liverpool have signed far more than Poch has done at Spurs, and we still finish above you every season.
Granted, I’ve never seen him play, but I was under the impression that he’s an advanced midfielder. Could be wrong, though.
Sanchez definitely isn't a flop. But by your same reasoning you can't call him a good purchase unless he's done it for a few years, just like you can't call someone flop after 1 year especially as he's your record signing. Klopp has signed barely any flops compared to Poch, the only flop that comes to mind is Karius. Poch has plenty to his name
Clinton N'Jie
Kevin Wimmer
Yedlin
Vincent Janssen
Sissoko
N'Koudou
Llorente
possibly Aurier too depending on how he does this season. You've finished ahead of us for a far while but you've got nothing to show for it , this is your best league run in 50 years and look at this Summer your chasing Jack Grealish. Spurs should be building on the platform they have whilst they can.
Opened thread expecting discussions about formations, lineups, squad management, injuries, etc. Instead there's just shitposting and some net spend crap that no one cares about.
Can Klopp build a mean defence as that seemed to be LFC's biggest issue last year? They conceded too many for a title challenge right?
Nevertheless, anything short of a title challenge after their transfer expenditure would be a considerable failure.
I do agree there are some shockers in that list, but you have to put it into context. Those players were mostly signed for about 10 million or under. Yedlin was peanuts. It is following logic that the cheaper signings are more likely to not work out, that is why they are cheap. Was Wimmer a flop? Signed as a squad player, stood in brilliantly when Vertonghen got injured in his first season at Spurs, and then was surplus to requirements when he found himself behind Vertonghen, Alderweireld etc then sold him to Stoke and made money on him. Hardly a flop when a squad player signed as a squad player performs as a squad player. Following that logic, the players I've listed below would also be classed as flops, as they have done nothing of note for Liverpool at all. The jury is out on the last 4 players, all signed for very big money. I thought Liverpool fans would have learnt not to criticise Spurs transfer policy, it happens every summer yet we still out perform you in the league despite you blowing wads of cash? Spurs have had a lot of relative success signing players from lower league. Grealish could prove to be a very astute signing and besides, that is hardly the end of our transfer business, (I presume). There is every chance that a player like Grealish out performs someone like Keita over the next few seasons. I'm not saying they are identical players, I'm just saying that signing someone for big money overseas does not make necessarily make them better players than a Grealish from the Championship just because he is being signed for much less. Transfer fee does not always equate to quality and impact.
Players signed since Klopp took over.
Marko Grujić Red Star Belgrade £5,100,000 6th Jan, 2016
Sadio Mane Southampton £30,000,000 28th Jun, 2016
Loris Karius Mainz 05 £4,700,000 1st Jul, 2016
Joel Matip Schalke 04 £0 1st Jul, 2016
Ragnar Klavan FC Augsburg £4,200,000 20th Jul, 2016
Georginio Wijnaldum Newcastle United £25,000,000 22nd Jul, 2016
Mohammed Salah AS Roma £34,000,000 22nd Jun, 2017
Dominic Solanke Chelsea £0 1st Jul, 2017
Andy Robertson Hull City £8,000,000 21st Jul, 2017
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Arsenal £35,000,000 31st Aug, 2017
Virgil van Dijk Southampton £75,000,000 1st Jan, 2018
Fabinho AS Monaco £39,300,000 28th May, 2018
Naby Keïta RB Leipzig £52,500,000 1st Jun, 2018
Xherdan Shaqiri Stoke City £13,500,000 13th Jul, 2018
Alisson AS Roma £56,250,000 19th Jul, 2018
I will add, I am envious of Liverpool's transfer business so far, in the fact that you are signing on paper quality players to address weaknesses in your squad.
If only Spurs would do the same, we've signed no one yet, it's ridiculous.
‘Blowing wads of cash’ but also recouping wads of cash. Many opposing fans seem to forget Coutinho, Sterling and Suarez getting us 270 million back.
Spurs have done well in the transfer market and tend to buy only to improve what they already have, which is what Liverpool are now finally doing.
Spurs will be interesting over the next couple of years, and their success I guess, is dependent on how much Kane etc want to be paid versus trophies/lack of trophies.
Liverpool should be challenging for the title this year, but City were almost perfect last year, so I would expect them to win it again this year, albeit less easily.
Spurs have done well in the transfer market and tend to buy only to improve what they already have, which is what Liverpool are now finally doing.
Spurs will be interesting over the next couple of years, and their success I guess, is dependent on how much Kane etc want to be paid versus trophies/lack of trophies.
Liverpool should be challenging for the title this year, but City were almost perfect last year, so I would expect them to win it again this year, albeit less easily.
What's the bold for? If it's dodgy signings or whatever Klavan has been perfectly fine....He's done what he was bought for perfectly.
We're trying to get £27m for Origi?!? https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...ews/liverpool-set-divock-origi-price-14944134
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...ews/liverpool-set-divock-origi-price-14944134We're trying to get £27m for Origi?!?
Yeah i saw this.....can't imagine we will get that- he's been linked to Valencia, so i would imagine it'll be somewhat lower than 27mill.
I found it strange how LFC have literally announced the values like they are a supermarket.
On another note, how good does Curtis Jones look! Born and bred LFC too....hope he makes it.
Knowing how much you get for your unwanted players you'll probably get itWe're trying to get £27m for Origi?!?
If you said £27 I'd be less surprised honestly
Still only 23 and he was decent-ish for Wolsburg I think? There are a few teams who could do with a player like him, and if you look at how much we got for the likes of Ibe (and Ward more recently), I'd say around £20m is about right for him, so it's only normal we start off by saying he'll cost close to £30m.If you said £27 I'd be less surprised honestly
Mignolet, Karius, Origi, Ings should get us around the £50m mark I reckon.
Possibly yeah, but I'd rather keep Mignolet as a second choice/cup game keeper. Selling 3 keepers in one window to only have to go out and buy another back up would be kinda dodgy.
We're trying to get £27m for Origi?!?
To be fair if teams like Everton are willing to pay 50m for the likes of Richarlinson we should get 25-30m for the Origi's of this world.
True Robin, might as well start higher. He's been relatively unlucky in that Wolfsburg weren't very good last year. He seems to let his head drop quite easily for me, + this preseason, he has looked very poorly motivated...i think he has known his days have been numbered.
However, on the other hand, before Funes Mori decided to try and take his leg off + then celebrate it, he was exceptional for us.
He probably is valued more due to actually have it in his locker, problem is producing it.
Tommy, on Mignolet he won't want to stay as a backup i don't think....He's good enough for plenty of sides and will want to move.
He's probably on a decent enough wage as well, so suits both parties to get rid.
Alisson the no.1, personally the issue is as you say with back up keepers, as they all now want to leave to actually play. Maybe it'll be the highly rated Grabara, but i can't help but think that'll slow his progress.
Without criticising the fella anymore, i fear Karius isn't to be relied on even to bench warm right now.
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