Liverpool - 2017/18

Well I’ve certainly called anything Liverpool related better than you over the years.

Not that that’s much of an achievement.

You’d be in the relegation places on that front.
God the tears are streaming down my face - you're hilarious ! Can't be arsed trawling for some of your pearls but we both know there are more than plenty.
 
Huge blow to Liverpool losing Coutinho.

I assumed he'd be there until the Summer so this is a nice surprise I have to say.
 
Well I’ve certainly called anything Liverpool related better than you over the years.

Not that that’s much of an achievement.

You’d be in the relegation places on that front.
Do you come into opposition threads to point score or is there some discussion to be had?

The fee is pretty hefty. Two years ago that sort of fee for a player like Coutinho would’ve been unthinkable.
 
Do you come into opposition threads to point score or is there some discussion to be had?

The fee is pretty hefty. Two years ago that sort of fee for a player like Coutinho would’ve been unthinkable.

Oh don’t be so wet.

It’s daft to come out with statements saying he definitely won’t be sold when everything we know about Liverpool suggests it was very likely he would be sold. Especially after Van Dyk being purchased.

To add on the ‘enjoy the comedy show’ bit was particularly lacking in self-awareness. There’s only one comedy show in town here.
 
Huge blow to Liverpool losing Coutinho.

I assumed he'd be there until the Summer so this is a nice surprise I have to say.
On the face of it I'd agree. Let's see what we do with that money (and this month, no arsing around saving it for the Summer). It has the potential to derail our season but as the stats I posted earlier show, we've actually performed better without him (9-3-1) than with him (8-9-1) this season so I'm holding onto that until proven otherwise.
If we get Mahrez +1 on top of VVD I can actually see us doing very well over the remaining course of the season (meaning Top 4 and a good CL run, maybe FAC run too, obviously in cups the luck of the draw has a big say in determining the outcome).
 
Oh don’t be so wet.

It’s daft to come out with statements saying he definitely won’t be sold when everything we know about Liverpool suggests it was very likely he would be sold. Especially after Van Dyk being purchased.

To add on the ‘enjoy the comedy show’ bit was particularly lacking in self-awareness. There’s only one comedy show in town here.
And we're watching you.
 
On the face of it I'd agree. Let's see what we do with that money (and this month, no arsing around saving it for the Summer). It has the potential to derail our season but as the stats I posted earlier show, we've actually performed better without him (9-3-1) than with him (8-9-1) this season so I'm holding onto that until proven otherwise.
If we get Mahrez +1 on top of VVD I can actually see us doing very well over the remaining course of the season (meaning Top 4 and a good CL run, maybe FAC run too, obviously in cups the luck of the draw has a big say in determining the outcome).

I mean maybe you won't miss him but I'd be almost certain you will. He's been brilliant this season, 12 goals in 18 games is a brilliant record.

I'm sure Liverpool fans said the same thing when Suarez left, as did Utd fans when Ronaldo left but it's usually just bluffing. Losing your best player is always a terrible blow.

Can't blame Coutinho though, will Liverpool fans turn on him now or will he be wished well?
 
Oh don’t be so wet.

It’s daft to come out with statements saying he definitely won’t be sold when everything we know about Liverpool suggests it was very likely he would be sold. Especially after Van Dyk being purchased.

To add on the ‘enjoy the comedy show’ bit was particularly lacking in self-awareness. There’s only one comedy show in town here.
I’ve never said he definitely won’t be sold though. I’ve always been of the opinion that we’d sell in the summer before the World Cup, which is a reasonable assumption to make.

I’m shocked that he’s gone now. I thought the Van Dijk transfer was linked but not because Coutinho was about to jet off to Barcelona mid season.

You’re telling me that you’ve always expected Coutinho to be sold in this window since we kept him in the summer?
 
Why so defensive. Just admit you got it tragically wrong, again.
Who was the first to post the breaking news (in this thread) ? Not exactly defensive behaviour was it ? No what is bemusing (and not just myself it seems) is that you are notably absent from any real conversation unless you feel you can win points. You are all snide remarks and digs. It's rather perverse behaviour and demonstrates an innate inferiority complex to be honest, as if having 20-18 isn't enough for you you feel the need to chalk up wins on that blackboard in your head.
 
Flash forward to next winter and Liverpool will look back on this deal with a big smile, they will have reinforced with terrific options after getting great return on their paltry investment in Coutinho
 
I’ve never said he definitely won’t be sold though. I’ve always been of the opinion that we’d sell in the summer before the World Cup, which is a reasonable assumption to make.

I’m shocked that he’s gone now. I thought the Van Dijk transfer was linked but not because Coutinho was about to jet off to Barcelona mid season.

You’re telling me that you’ve always expected Coutinho to be sold in this window since we kept him in the summer?

I’ve no idea why you’re defending yourself. My post was clearly not directed at you.

Obviously I’ve known Coutinho is leaving since last summer. It was just a case of when. It became clear it would be this window after the Van Dijk deal.

Liverpool’s statements about not selling him were just PR bravado. Even in the summer. That was the public face. The private face would have been a tacit agreement to sell him.
 
Flash forward to next winter and Liverpool will look back on this deal with a big smile, they will have reinforced with terrific options after getting great return on their paltry investment in Coutinho
One can only hope. VVD already looks a great investment and Keita to come this Summer is surely a great improvement on our current midfield. If we can adequately replace Coutinho - and Klopp has proved he's pretty good at finding the right people in attack - and add another quality CM and GK in the Summer I'll be very pleased. £142m is a lot of money and could fund both Lemar and Mahrez, would those two be equal or better to Coutinho ? I'd like to think so based on their stats.
 
Gutted he's gone but also excited to see what Klopp will do now. Most of his recruitment has been excellent and I think he'll figure this out. This is different to Suarez going although both players were massive for us. We have a coach who (whether you admit it or not) a lot of players would love to play for.
It'll hurt our top 4 chances but I don't think it's ended it
 
They've always seemed to have a pretty strong South American attacking core in recent years, is it just Firmino from that part of the world still at the club?
 
I’ve no idea why you’re defending yourself. My post was clearly not directed at you.

Obviously I’ve known Coutinho is leaving since last summer. It was just a case of when. It became clear it would be this window after the Van Dijk deal.

Liverpool’s statements about not selling him were just PR bravado. Even in the summer. That was the public face. The private face would have been a tacit agreement to sell him.
Don’t you think it’s unusual for a club to agree to sell one of their best players midway through a season though?

For what it’s worth you’re probably right about the PR stuff. The Van Dijk thing seems like something FSG would do to save face for when they get their commission back.
 
Who was the first to post the breaking news (in this thread) ? Not exactly defensive behaviour was it ? No what is bemusing (and not just myself it seems) is that you are notably absent from any real conversation unless you feel you can win points. You are all snide remarks and digs. It's rather perverse behaviour and demonstrates an innate inferiority complex to be honest, as if having 20-18 isn't enough for you you feel the need to chalk up wins on that blackboard in your head.

What are you on about with this little meltdown?

It’s worthless having a football discussion with you. You are the equivalent of a LFC PR bot who just regurgitates party line after party line.

There are a few Liverpool posters who are worth enagaging with. You are in the kept around for amusement category. We always need a few floating around for comedy purposes.
 
Don’t you think it’s unusual for a club to agree to sell one of their best players midway through a season though?

For what it’s worth you’re probably right about the PR stuff. The Van Dijk thing seems like something FSG would do to save face for when they get their commission back.

Not at all. You’ve just benefitted from doing just that.

You’ve also done it before under same owners (Torres).

The World Cup year complicates the summer market too.
 
Not at all. You’ve just benefitted from doing just that.

You’ve also done it before under same owners (Torres).

The World Cup year complicates the summer market too.
Torres was years ago though, back in 2010. It looks like a one off during eight years of FSG’s ownership (well not anymore). Weird that Barcelona are ok with him being cup tied for the CL as well but I suppose that’s only a handful of games.
 
I can see why Coutinho was desperate to leave of course but I really don't see what Liverpool get by selling him now. Unless Barcelona said they wouldn't be coming back in again? I can only see it being that.
 
Oh that's no meltdown, it's an accurate observation of your behaviour. Sorry if I've hit a sore spot (I'm not really).

I’m sorry I pointed out you were wrong again.

Maybe you feel like you should be allowed carte blanche to talk utter bollocks on here all the time and never be pulled up on it.

But yeah it’s something to do with me not being content with 20/18 or whatever. Christ.
 
Don’t you think it’s unusual for a club to agree to sell one of their best players midway through a season though?

For what it’s worth you’re probably right about the PR stuff. The Van Dijk thing seems like something FSG would do to save face for when they get their commission back.

FSG have been great for Liverpool. Atleast they managed to wring 12 more goals out of him before the inevitable sale to Barcelona. That, and making funds available for Klopp. You are truly FSG FC at the moment, they seem to have serious ambitions.

Liverpool will suffer even if they get Lemar or similar. Coutinho is so important for them, and I am not sure any player adequately fills that void. Probably they will be alright if they get Lemar and Keita next summer, but with only a Coutinho replacement now, it will be interesting to see if Salah can carry them to 4th/3rd/2nd.
 
I can see why Coutinho was desperate to leave of course but I really don't see what Liverpool get by selling him now. Unless Barcelona said they wouldn't be coming back in again? I can only see it being that.
I'm not sure that would be an issue - after all we didn't want to sell him in the first place and don't really need the money. However with his head turned and set we were obviously looking at replacements - I'll assume at this point that we now have them (him) lined up. Let's see what happens this month. Maybe that was why Mahrez was not in the Leicester squad and didn't travel today ?
 
Torres was years ago though, back in 2010. It looks like a one off during eight years of FSG’s ownership (well not anymore). Weird that Barcelona are ok with him being cup tied for the CL as well but I suppose that’s only a handful of games.

They’ll see it as they can use the 6 months to get him acclimatised to their style of football before going full tilt next season.

Even better that they’re comfortable in the league so should be a perfect less pressurised environment for him to learn.

For Coutinho’s part, he’ll get to take part in a league winning season and pick up an immediate medal.
 
I'm not sure that would be an issue - after all we didn't want to sell him in the first place and don't really need the money. However with his head turned and set we were obviously looking at replacements - I'll assume at this point that we now have them (him) lined up. Let's see what happens this month. Maybe that was why Mahrez was not in the Leicester squad and didn't travel today ?

Moussa Sissoko is available I believe.

Maybe he's the replacement?
 
I’m sorry I pointed out you were wrong again.

Maybe you feel like you should be allowed carte blanche to talk utter bollocks on here all the time and never be pulled up on it.

But yeah it’s something to do with me not being content with 20/18 or whatever. Christ.
How childish it is that a 'grown man' keeps track of comments made on forums to use later to score 'chalkboard' points. Very sad behaviour, almost pitiable.
 
One can only hope. VVD already looks a great investment and Keita to come this Summer is surely a great improvement on our current midfield. If we can adequately replace Coutinho - and Klopp has proved he's pretty good at finding the right people in attack - and add another quality CM and GK in the Summer I'll be very pleased. £142m is a lot of money and could fund both Lemar and Mahrez, would those two be equal or better to Coutinho ? I'd like to think so based on their stats.

That's the thing really, VVD & Keita are as 'sure things' as they get, if Lemar and a keeper are brought in then you can afford to gamble on 'cheaper' signings to fill out the squad. I think Emre Can's departure will be more of an issue to remedy
 
That's the thing really, VVD & Keita are as 'sure things' as they get, if Lemar and a keeper are brought in then you can afford to gamble on 'cheaper' signings to fill out the squad. I think Emre Can's departure will be more of an issue to remedy
Of that I'm not sure. I know some Liverpool fans rate him, I initially thought he had great promise and would develop, I haven't seen it in him and have changed my mind. Not sorry at all to see him go and think even an average player could replace him, hopefully we can do much better than that though.
 
How childish it is that a 'grown man' keeps track of comments made on forums to use later to score 'chalkboard' points. Very sad behaviour, almost pitiable.

Except that didn’t happen at all. I saw that post when I clicked on this thread today having not visited it for a while. It tickled me so I replied. You don’t like being called out so threw a hissy fit and started talking about 20/18. :lol:

A grown man who spends his life on a rival forum regurgitating club PR is a much more sad and pitiable case. But you have no shame.
 
Of that I'm not sure. I know some Liverpool fans rate him, I initially thought he had great promise and would develop, I haven't seen it in him and have changed my mind. Not sorry at all to see him go and think even an average player could replace him, hopefully we can do much better than that though.

Either way, from what I have seen of even the current Coutinho-less Liverpool from Klopp, they are beginning to turn into something and surely their next few acquisitions will be a real statement of intent to give it a go for the Premiership title...next season
 
Either way, from what I have seen of even the current Coutinho-less Liverpool from Klopp, they are beginning to turn into something and surely their next few acquisitions will be a real statement of intent to give it a go for the Premiership title...next season

So you're saying

Next year is their year?