Oh weve taken a few of them over the years
Liverpool - 2017/18
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Oh weve taken a few of them over the years
Fraser Forster won't come cheap.
Seems clear now that the Coutinho money has been spent on Keita & VVD
Coutinho money is for Lemar who won't cost less than £80m.
Helluva squad for next season
Now let's just get Kevin Trapp for GK, De Vrij on a free. That will be a MASSIVE upgrade on our defense. Of course it's worth dreaming 
It will never happen. We will go for another defender or GK from Southampton in the summer.
It will never happen. We will go for another defender or GK from Southampton in the summer.Just realize it. Liverpool spent more than us this year. So their favourite excuse about us spending money is out now i guess.
Good CB. Unreal fees!
What has happened with Karius shows it will not be that simple.
So was 30 million in 2002. A record back then wasn’t it? And for a CB.
A couple of good signings imminent. This will give them 2nd place this season, I reckon.
Exactly. It use to happen time and time again that the likes of Chelsea or arsenal would out buy us for few quids ..and then we had to settle down to a player that was not the first choice .
And about the transfer fee walker and stones both went for 50miln. Vvd is sure shot better than that. Lets say his actual prize is 60miln. And we have over spent by 15miln. Im ready to take a loss of 15miln any day if we are singing our managers first choice target.
Exactly right. Been a huge critic of FSG during their tenure here for not spending money in certain areas. I don't understand why people think it's an achievement to win the net spend award. United have spent huge sums on players and yeah fans get tribal over this despite how nonsensical the argument is . I'm just happy we've addrssed a major issue and hopefully it's the start of improving our squad rather than replacing it.
A signal to the world that you are still relevant as a top team, too.
So long as it's not Trapp I'll be happy. Oblak please.Now let's just get Kevin Trapp for GK, De Vrij on a free. That will be a MASSIVE upgrade on our defense. Of course it's worth dreaming
We spent a net £26m for the past two seasons. The piggybank was over-flowing.
This one is killing me, pretty much true here too
This. So much this.
Tottenham certainly have become relevant over the past 2 seasons without having to spend too much money. But yes, I get your point about the difficulty of challenging for titles with a tight budget when the rest of your rivals are spending a lot of money. That is why I mentioned HOPE that Klopp might try to change that. That being said, if a manager is given time and patience, I don't see why he can't at least make the club competitive at the top level and maybe sneak a title with the other top teams having an off season.
Germany has a different culture to England, scouts may or may not be better but certainly a lot more emphasis is given to scouting younger/developing players rather than ready made players. The requirements from the managers is the same though, Dortmund are expected to be challenging for the title every season, while Schalke and Leverkusen are expected to be in the UCL; any season where they aren't leads to managers being sacked (as Schalke and Leverkusen have witnessed in the past), but still German clubs generally try to develop younger players rather than spending large money on more established ones (foreign or within Germany).
All this "manager x is cheque book manger, manger Y loves to develop players while paying less" is load of crap. every manager spends loads if the money is available. Klopp didn't have much money to spend at Dortmund, Dortmund's scouting was superb so they signed gems for smaller fee. Now that he has money to spend he is spending it at Liverpool.
He spouted lot of nonsense over the years, biggest was his moaning about Pogba's fee and then paying nearly as much for a CB who barely played (15 games) in a year.
Same with Poch, he didn't spend as he didn't have much to spend, then spent 30 Million on Sissoko and 40 Million on Sanchez. Every manager is same, they will spend if money is there to spend.
Market is changing so comparisons while inevitable are pointless, more so when you attempt to use a FB to make a point. Stones is younger and English, the logic in the Premiership market has been that they will go for more. Liverpool overpaid but they had to else risk losing him to Chelsea or City
As for being 'better', it's more a question of fit since VVD could never bring the ball out like Pique or Stones in a system that demands a central defender to do far more than just defend in his area
Do you have any alert set that if any City player is mentioned and not talked as if they are second coming?
This Pep shit thing is spreading too fast and infecting all the threads.
Cause you could not buy Keita and VVD, if you had not overhauled the rest of the squad for €40-50M net spend over the last two years. Simple as that.
I don't think he's anywhere near as good as Rio was, he won't be at Liverpool for as long as Rio was at Utd and you definitely won't win as much as we did when Rio was here.
But other than that? yeah very similar.
Good signing. I expect them to finish above us at this point.
You haven't seen him play then. There aren't many better ballplaying centrebacks in this league than VVD. If any.
Wasn't my point seeing as that's what I was getting at albeit horribly .
The money was there to spend given how little we've spent recently.
I remember him well at Celtic, played Barcelona several times
I think Liverpool if they get a lucky draw can be dark horses in the champions league, specially if they meet a great team only in the final and not in two legs. VVD will be able to play in europe and i think pool will be in draw for semi finals atleast.
Lets not get into how good vvd is.
Till Liverpool signed him, he was the hottest CB property in epl, City wanted him, Chelsea bid for him , Liverpool bid for him, and im sure if united weren't so stocked in CB department (7 CB) even united would have had one eye on him. and the only reason arsenal aren't involved is because of the price tag..thats enough to say he is a Good CB. Other than that the statements like ohh i never rated him or he is just a dutch chris smalling or he could never bring the ball out like pique etc etc are irrelevant as for now as we dont know how good or bad he will perform for Liverpool.
Secondly on your stones comparison ...why buy a player on its resale value? The basic reason clubs sign players is to improve quality. Resale value is a secondary thing. John stones may have better resale value than van dijk but Liverpool manager thinks vvd is a better defender, obviously resale value takes a back seat.
Also on the side note whenever any such big signings goes through .. opposition fans ( including ours) go wild about the price tag. But then after 2-3 months nobody cares. There are so many transfer that go through but turn out to be a dud, makhtariyan, sissoko, bakayoko,zhaka..to name a few, do we actually care?
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My questions are -
1.Has klopp really spent that big at Liverpool?
2. Does spending on kieta and vvd really makes him a cheque book manager?
My take -
1. Klopp hasnt spent big at all , the biggest signing he has made till now is salah-36 miln, other than that Mane - 32miln, Ox - 35miln, Wijnaldum - 25 miln, is the best he has spent at Liverpool. These in comparison to pogba, lukaku, morata, devid luiz, lacazett, mendi, walker?
2. Again 35 miln is the minimum you have to pay for any good footballer nowdays ...salah, mane, have all been his finds in the sense he has completely elavated them to a next level, not just them even lallana, coutinho, fermino have stepped up..that shows he knows how to get best of his players. He wont just demand results.just because he signed them he improves them too. over the years he has always been and still is a manager who believes in building and grooming squads ..he is not simply an assembler like jose. Give me money i will just feel in the blanks and get you the title , klopp for sure isnt like that. One will point out to vvd or kieta but 2 signings dont make him a cheque book manager.
1.Has klopp really spent that big at Liverpool?
2. Does spending on kieta and vvd really makes him a cheque book manager?
My take -
1. Klopp hasnt spent big at all , the biggest signing he has made till now is salah-36 miln, other than that Mane - 32miln, Ox - 35miln, Wijnaldum - 25 miln, is the best he has spent at Liverpool. These in comparison to pogba, lukaku, morata, devid luiz, lacazett, mendi, walker?
2. Again 35 miln is the minimum you have to pay for any good footballer nowdays ...salah, mane, have all been his finds in the sense he has completely elavated them to a next level, not just them even lallana, coutinho, fermino have stepped up..that shows he knows how to get best of his players. He wont just demand results.just because he signed them he improves them too. over the years he has always been and still is a manager who believes in building and grooming squads ..he is not simply an assembler like jose. Give me money i will just feel in the blanks and get you the title , klopp for sure isnt like that. One will point out to vvd or kieta but 2 signings dont make him a cheque book manager.
Woah, there is nothing wrong in singing players for big money. Excuses are embarrassing. He spend big money on CB, he is spending money that is available to spend, not sure why some Liverpool fans are taking it personally to defend "Cheque book manager" klopp.
Jose also didn't spend big at Porto but he did at Chelsea and Madrid because they had cash to burn. Same with any manager.
He isn't worth 75 mil, but he is far better than what they have atm. Now they just need a midfielder and a keeper.
Liverpool gave Southampton 160 million in the last 3 years - maybe they should have bought the club outright from the outset!
Liverpool have now spent close to £170m on their last three signings - Oxlade-Chamberlain, Keita and van Dijk. I think Keita will be a good signing but the combined £115m for Oxlade-Chamberlain and van Dijk is a hell of a lot of money for two pretty average players.
Goals allowed surely to drop from 1.15 per game to atleast 1.07.
Hes isn't the best CB in the PL and Harry Maguire is better at ball playing, as is John Stones