Liverpool - 2017/18
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They weren't linked with a new CF because they scored 78 goals in the league last season and the attack was functioning well around Firmino and what they had, on top of that they signed Salah who'd scored 30 goals in Serie A in 2 seasons and had Danny Ings coming back from injury. Yes they should have been more clinical tonight, but hindsight much?
I can't allow you to put PSG there. Remind me what happened to them last season.
They have weakness, but they're not naive to play games into Liverpool hands easily, and their attack will destroy Liverpool defense any day.
Spartak were trite. We didn't finish gilt edged chances. Even Sturridge. Firmino I'm not surprised by, he's mediocre in front of goal at best. Hope he doesn't play on the weekend.
Thank God Mane is back for league games too.
Thank God Mane is back for league games too.
That was Barcelona, though.
Not to mention they're the biggest gameraisers
If they beat Maribor home and away then Spartak at home, they'll qualify in 2nd. Should be easy.
The Debate saying that Milner should play and Klopp is picking the wrong personnel.
What do our resident dippers think?
What do our resident dippers think?
Real Madrid would tear them to pieces.(and did the last time they played in a meaningful game)
Just because Liverpool beat poor EPL sides doesn't mean they have a chance against the elite.
The difference in class will be too much for them.
Imagine Ronaldo against Liverpool's defense.
You mean half a team?
If we finish second haven't we got a bigger chance of meeting an English club?
Don't think English clubs can meet in the round of 16?
He's experienced at least, and he can chip in with a goal now and again. You can't really plan for terrible finishing though. Relying on Firmino is a disaster not actually waiting to happen cos it's happened many times. He's a good player but he's not a striker and never will be. Mane and Salah can't take the burden of winning every match and Sturridge won't ever get into form playing but parts. Just a mess at the moment, can't seem to win a one ticket raffle even by bribing the old ladies selling the ticket.
The rotation of the back 5 is annoying and needs to settle it, Robertson is in one day and disappears from squad the next completely, the keeper change again tonight.. He's picking the right personell up front but it's his decision making in critical moments of the match that he does wrong, waits too long to make a sub before the inevitable happens (opposition scores) or he takes off our best threat and we create nothing, like substituting Sturridge for Mane tonight, when it should have been Sturridge for Firminio.
Considering our finishing, a striker should have been another priority this summer as well as decent defenders and a keeper. I mean, Arsenal bought Lacazette for the same amount we spent on Oxlade who was on the bench for all of this game.
They can't.
Then the odds of us meeting Real has risen considerably.
Wonder what they would've done if they had sold Coutinho towards the end of the transfer window.
Edit: goes to show that sometimes it's worth to hold on to a player over money in the bank.
Edit: goes to show that sometimes it's worth to hold on to a player over money in the bank.
I was in the ''they'll click soon'' camp but Leicester on Saturday were absolutely appalling & stayed in the game throughout. Agree with the chaos theory outlined above a little bit actually. Klopp wants to play with 2 at the back - it doesn't look totally convincing as a plan, to me.
I love the continual logic on here that with "Just a 2 players here and a player there, they could be really good" Does that not beg the question that they are no fecking good which is why they need all these players?? Isn't that the fecking poIt's??? Its like saying "if they had better players in most positions they might be a good team".
Even if they added better players does that mean that the players at other rivals are not at least as good as these theoretical players that they have not got? Do people really think that if they sign these imaginary players that the players at United, Chelsea, City and spontaneously combust and allow pool to waltz to the title?
Even if they added better players does that mean that the players at other rivals are not at least as good as these theoretical players that they have not got? Do people really think that if they sign these imaginary players that the players at United, Chelsea, City and spontaneously combust and allow pool to waltz to the title?
surely they have sunk considerably. You need to make it out of the group to even have that as a possibility.
Spartak were just hilariously bad. When they were defending their players would literally just chase the ball around like school kids. Then they all died of exhaustion about 2 minutes into the second half. It looked like they'd never had a training session in their lives 
Amusing that Liverpool couldn't find a way to beat this lot, although, I'm not sure how. Salah seems to like cocking up easy chances.
Amusing that Liverpool couldn't find a way to beat this lot, although, I'm not sure how. Salah seems to like cocking up easy chances.
I think Spurs will win that group.
Spartak were just hilariously bad. When they were defending their players would literally just chase the ball around like school kids. Then they all died of exhaustion about 2 minutes into the second half. It looked like they'd never had a training session in their lives
Amusing that Liverpool couldn't find a way to beat this lot, although, I'm not sure how. Salah seems to like cocking up easy chances.
Gave away a soft free-kick and a goal (Karius shouldn't be in goal).
Appalling substitution (Should have subbed Firmino instead of Mane).
Poor finishing (Do we even train for that?).
We lost the spark after Mane was subbed.
Yes, it's down to the players to execute, but the calls are made by the manager. He deserves some slack as well. Spartak was woeful (especially how they kept getting injured) and we should have scored more than just 1 goal that we did!
Interesting article here - https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/so...klopp-s-vision-1.3232398#.Wcii0T-84Gs.twitter
WUM highlight - ''James Milner has said he no longer wants to play at left-back.''
WUM highlight - ''James Milner has said he no longer wants to play at left-back.''
You talk as if the top teams leak goals. They are top teams because they are brilliant in every department, including defense. Did you see Dortmund-Real last night? It was a very end-to-end game especially in the second half. Seemed to look like an EPL fixture at times with the way the game played out. Dortmund, despite being so very good in attack, could not break through Real's defense enough. Despite a decent defense, Real picked them off at ease. You think Liverpool will find joy against Real/Juve/Bayern/PSG/Barca? Their defense will leak goals galore against the attacks of the top 5.
So you think Liverpool are the best of the best when even elite teams plays open game against them? You need to stop overrating Liverpool, any elite team would smash Liverpool defense into pieces and their clown GKs too.
Yeah I didn't get the Mane sub. It seemed like it'd be counter productive at the time and then it turned out to be exactly that. Still even after that there must have been 4-5 times you should have scored.
It was so easy to cut through their defence that I didn't understand what your players were doing half the time. They were playing it around as if they were up against an organised defensive unit...most of the time Spartak were so disorganised you couldn't even tell which ones were supposed to be defenders. At times 4 of their players were going for the same ball!
They were very good at being injured though. I guess you may as well be good at something, even if it is completely pointless.
I enjoyed the "Win or Die" banner in the crowd too. I couldn't tell if it was a motto or a threat.
Its time to play the music
Its time to light the lights...
Its time to light the lights...
Just three? They are in a dire need for at least one centre back, some of the fullbacks (preferably both, how's Clyne?), a defensive midfielder and perhaps a centre forward as the guys have already said. Nevermind having clowns department in the GK position.
What are we making of the volume of shots (chances) not generating the equivalent proportion of goals then?
This xG (expected goals?) thing - I'm beginning to think that a total of say 5.3 xG chances in a game isn't really that significant if they are all 0.3 xG's then 10 of them obviously not producing 3 goals, they're just 10 'not great' chances which don't accumulate in such a way that makes the next event any more likely to be a goal at all. So adding them together is a flawed process / theory.
The 'ability' of players to miss chances (under pressure) might also be being underestimated. Free shots from penalties only convert at 7-8 out of 10 isn't it?
#JustPondering - it was us last year they reckoned, innit?
This xG (expected goals?) thing - I'm beginning to think that a total of say 5.3 xG chances in a game isn't really that significant if they are all 0.3 xG's then 10 of them obviously not producing 3 goals, they're just 10 'not great' chances which don't accumulate in such a way that makes the next event any more likely to be a goal at all. So adding them together is a flawed process / theory.
The 'ability' of players to miss chances (under pressure) might also be being underestimated. Free shots from penalties only convert at 7-8 out of 10 isn't it?
#JustPondering - it was us last year they reckoned, innit?
Thought they were shocking in the second half.
they must be on their knees praying some Chinese investor takes them over.
Didn’t see the game, how did they play?
Lacked the ability to open up a well drilled Newcastle defence
Won't matter if Klopp is in charge.
Rafa is a top class manager showed today how to drill a team defensively.
There is no way anyone in Liverpool would take someone like ciaran Clark but he looks solid in a well drilled back four.
Shows what is doable with the right coach.
Chinese investors all they want with klopp in charge it won't change their flaws
Sturridge looks a shadow of his former self.
Newcastle didn’t look well drilled. If we could finish they’d have lost that 3-1. We’ve been terrible in front of goal for a few weeks. The league position isn’t the end of the world but I’m not feeling very optimistic.