Grujic - Jury out
Caulker - Flop
Matip - Good
Karius - Flop
Mane - Great
Klavan - Poor
Manninger - Pointless
Wijnaldum - Okay
Salah - Good
Solanke - Jury out
Robertson - Jury out
Oxlade-Chamberlain - Jury out (seems an odd signing to me)
Then there's the players he's let go that arguably could have done a job, at least as squad players: Toure, Teixeira, Skrtel, Ibe, Allen, Benteke, Balotelli, Sakho, Lucas, Origi
Mane has definitely improved you. Salah is a good signing but I'm not sure quite how necessary he was, although if Coutinho is playing up then he's some needed quality in his place. Matip is decent enough but doesn't seem to really have strengthened your defence a great deal. Wijnaldum is okay, but I don't really get the height.
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actual flops, not who your jury's still out on. Players we sold couldn't have done the job, because Klopp decides which players fit his style and which players are capable of playing in his teams. And Karius is definitely not a flop, he's younger and has higher ceiling than Minge. Caulker was a raging alcoholic when he was signed, and I can't even remember him ever playing, so he's more in a "pointless" category for me.
You've still got quite a poor hit rate, as I see it, and I remember under Rodgers, Dalglish and Benitez where a lot of signings that turned out to be poor were being praised or heralded as better than they were. Under Rodgers, Borini, Sahin, Alberto, Ilori, Lambert, Origi, Lovren, Moreno and Markovic were all heralded by many Liverpool fans as good business pretty much until Rodgers was fired. Under Dalglish it was Coates, Enrique, Downing and Adam. Under Benitez, Aquilani, Maxi Rodriguez, Degen, Dossena, Keane, Riera, Babel, Crouch and Carson.
It's not a phenomenon exclusive to Liverpool fans, and many United fans, myself included have been very guilty of similar, but it that doesn't change the fact that your hit rate under Klopp is still quite low, and that your fans, as a whole, have a history of massively overstating the potential of young signings and the abilities of those coming into the first team.
I do not recall hyping many of these players myself, but there's also a lot in here who were by no means poor signings, not in the context of that era, nor in their performances for the club.
Sahin came in with a massive hype, because he was considered one of the best players in his position. Then Rodgers decided he will play him in a different position, so it didn't work out. Plus, he was here on loan.
Origi was never a bad or poor signing, that's ridiculous. He'll have a successful season on loan, may get recalled in January, and he'll come back to us a more experienced young striker. This is not that kind of a loan, when you offload a player because he's shit. That's what Markovic's for.
Lovren was, in the context of that era, one of the best defenders in the PL, and cost us massive amounts of money. I don't see how thinking "oh, this will be a great signing for us" is in any way delusional, when you take a look at the context.
Moreno came in from EL champions, and actually didn't have a bad first season. Plus, haven't you heard? He's now "100% back", so obv. not a flop or a bad signing.
Coates was Copa America's best young player, and he can clearly still perform on a top level, just not in England. Again your arguments fall short.
Enrique had some solid defensive displays over the years, but was constantly injured. I don't see how fault for injury can somehow fall on the club's judgement to bring him in, he wasn't a bad defender by any means.
Maxi performed way over expectations, don't know what you're on about.
Crouchy is a legend, enough said.
