You should cash in now, in case he had a shit season.
Liverpool - 2017/18
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He's going, he wants to go, £100m cash, few add-ons, deal done.
Everybody can have a shit season. Why won't you cash in on Alexis, Ozil and Ox now?)
It's not about money. There's no point in having money if you can't spend. Klopp only sanctions players he chose and doesn't like compromise options. So, unless Keita and VVD are suddenly within reach, we rather wont spend at all.
Also, we have no proper backup CAM. Since Lallana is injured our only other option is 17yo Woodburn. He's a nice lad, ahead of his age in terms of skill and understanding, but...
I don't agree that we better cash in now, but even if I would, he's worth much more than they offer in today's market.
I think the same could be asked of all the top six sides apart from City. I was expecting a bit more from everyone.Well done but who are you signing this summer?
Three not enough for you ? Not enough for me either. I think VVD will get done on or around the last day, Southampton will make us sweat. Other than that ... maybe a surprise CM. I see Keita is back to evens at the bookiesWell done but who are you signing this summer?
Not really. United have signed 2 good players who will improve the first team (Lukaku/Matic) and a third who looks a good prospect and certainly improves the squad (Lindelof). Zlatan looks likely to remain and a winger/full back is still on the horizon..
I just don't see much from Liverpool, or Spurs for that matter. Chelsea also looking thin but have at least spent.
Three not enough for you ? Not enough for me either. I think VVD will get done on or around the last day, Southampton will make us sweat. Other than that ... maybe a surprise CM. I see Keita is back to evens at the bookies
Robertson/Solanke won't add much.
If you sign VVD and Keita people will take note although I think there is an equal chance Coutinho leaves to fund it.
We have the perfect CAM. Firmino knows that position inside out and it would make sense to drop him into that slot and use Sturridge (or even Solanke) up front. Salah has also played CAM and Mane can too. That position is more than well stocked.
We don't need to sell Coutinho to fund it since we were clearly after both (and Salah) well before Barca appeared on the scene and we raked in a good amount, as did all PL teams, from the PL and spent nothing the year before. Robertson could end up as a starter (I've been quite impressed with him in pre-season in attack, very very pacey and an excellent crosser. Needs work defensively but not as much as Moreno) but at the very least both he and Solanke have added much needed depth.
I'm assuming their hope is that they hold on and Barca sign someone else, thus ending their interest, and Coutinho is then happy to stay.
Realistically though, I think his head has been turned, and while he might stay for another season, unless they're particularly successful, he's going. Might not be to Barca, but somewhere.
I certainly wouldn't have picked CAM as a position you needed to strengthen. I'd have gone ST, CB, LB, CM, GK in that order. If Coutinho goes priorities may be a bit different.
I think it will be VVD and Oxlaide-chamberlain
You think Robertson and Solanke add CL depth??
I think we are well stocked for strikers considering that we usually play without one ! However Sturridge, Solanke, Origi and Ings should be enough to get us through this season and maybe Klopp will look to strengthen that next Summer. If I were to rate the areas we need to strengthen in this Summer in order then it would be CB 1 (VVD or starter), CB2 (an improvement on Klavan, though Gomez maybe did enough to suggest he can improve with games, he's been out injured/recovering for a season), LB (fingers crossed for Robertson now we've got him (I'd have preferred Tierney) , a lot of coaches seem to think he can come on a lot), CM, GK.
As for Coutinho, this from Klopp today :
Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp insists there is no price at which the club will be tempted to sell Philippe Coutinho to Barcelona.
Speaking the day after the Reds rejected an improved £90.3m bid from the Catalan giants for Coutinho, Klopp reiterated that the Reds do not need to offload players and instead want to build the best team possible by retaining their current stars and making new signings.
That means keeping hold of Coutinho.
Klopp told Sky: “Liverpool is not a club that has to sell players. That is set in stone. So what they pay in the end doesn’t matter.
“From a financial standpoint, there is no price limit to let him go. No price at which we are ready to give in.
“Our goal is to have the best possible team. So we want to keep our guys and add new ones. That is our plan.”
Klopp’s latest comments tally with a report in Spanish newspaper Marca that claims the German boss is the main stumbling block in the Coutinho deal. The Reds boss is said to be an obstacle to negotiations between Barca, Liverpool and Coutinho’s representatives.
The Spanish side would be willing to match the Merseysiders’ valuation of Coutinho and include Andre Gomes or Rafinha in part-exchange, the report claims. But Klopp is adamant there is no valuation to match.
Who knows. I don't and neither do you. Both looked good in pre-season (Solanke looked very good) and not every CL match is tougher than the PL. Obviously not starters for the Hoffenheim matches at the moment.
I'm enjoying this thread. A general sense that Liverpool are screwed. Very much like last season
Yes, because last season you won so many titles and got the top4 comfortably whilst having loads of European midseason matches. Hang on..
I know Robertson and Solanke are not CL proven quality as do you. They are squad players. The gaping weaknesses in your first XI (CM and CB) are yet to be addressed.
Which is exactly what I said about 6 posts back !
Which is my point!
Very underwhelming and I'm not sure FSG have the money they promised
You may not be sure, I am sure. Neither of us knows for certain but logic would say it's there.
Of course, last summer was full of top 4 predictions in here. Who knows, with a European run Liverpool may drop to 6th. I think other sides have struggled to hold together league form while pursuing Europe.
It's incredible that you're feeling smug because you managed to finish 4th on the basis of a last day match against an already relegated team whilst not winning anything and having a considerably less workload than any other team in the top6(barring Chelsea). I mean I know standards have dropped at Liverpool, but to this extent? Not good.
You've replaced a very good goal scorer with another very good goal scorer (I'm assuming Ibrahimovic won't play again for a while). Matic is a decent signing although I'm not sure how it impacts Herrera/Pogba and I guess it's wait and see on Lindelof but I was expecting United to have done more by this stage of the window.
Don't get me wrong, I was expecting more from us as well. We're still a CB and a midfielder short in my opinion and I think you're right that Chelsea look a bit thin. I also think that Arsenal need a CB and something more in midfield to replace Cazorla, but we'll see. The lack of activity from Spurs is surprising.
If we did manage to sign Van Dijk I think I'd be ok with the window but I still think we need a box to box midfielder.
I need me one of them that can auto detect pizza flyers and life insurance letters.
I'm not smug. Not at all. Optimistic. Firstly, Liverpool achieved top 4 after 38 games. Playing Boro was just one of those games - a weak dig. Secondly, Liverpool achieved top 4 with 76 points - nobody has failed to get top 4 with that tally. Thirdly, United have failed to muster 76 points since winning the league. Fourthly, in the four seasons since SAF left Liverpool have finished above United twice and have a superior average finish placing.
Despite all of this, United fans talk down Liverpool as if they were footballing pigmys. Yet I'm the smug one. Ok.
In the four seasons, United have also won three trophies as compared to Liverpool's zero. United have qualified for CL two times, as have Liverpool. Superior average finish placing doesn't mean anything if you're not winning the league.
Oh and btw Liverpool's best two seasons in the last four years have come in the season where they had zero European football. In seasons with European football: 6th and 8th respectively which takes the "average finish placing" to 7th.
And this is where you lose any shred of credibility. Unable to have a discussion about your club without turning into Liverpool v United.
It's very pretty and very childlike.
Doesn't seem that long ago that united fans were mocking us for only winning tin pot trophies.
Guess standards have changed.
Yes and now United fans are mocking you for not winning anything at all. Standards have changed indeed.
Odd line of argument when we've won more post-Fergie than you have in the last 12 years.
Lol. Come on.
What I like the most is when United fans talk shit about the attack of other clubs like Liverpool or Arsenal, when they finished behind them, scored 20+ goals less and lost the guy, who scored 1/3 of those goals. They act pretty high and mighty for a team that scored less goals than Bournemouth.
What I like the most is when United fans talk shit about the attack of other clubs like Liverpool or Arsenal, when they finished behind them, scored 20+ goals less and lost the guy, who scored 1/3 of those goals. They act pretty high and mighty for a team that scored less goals than Bournemouth.
I like silly naive posts like this.
Encore! Encore!
What I like the most is when United fans talk shit about the attack of other clubs like Liverpool or Arsenal, when they finished behind them, scored 20+ goals less and lost the guy, who scored 1/3 of those goals. They act pretty high and mighty for a team that scored less goals than Bournemouth.
And yet, 3 trophies in 2 seasons
I was called smug by a United fan for suggesting Liverpool aren't screwed this season - United's record over recent seasons felt aposite in the context. Furthermore, you regularly lace your posts with habitual digs at Liverpool. I'm not sure an ivory tower is quite appropriate on this one.
Indeed. A good cup team. No question. I wish Liverpool were.
Spot on, it's funny how the League Cup now counts as a worthwhile trophy, in the past it would have been regarded as worthless.
How the mighty have fallen eh....