They rejected a €75m bid, an extra €10m won't change their mind and we shouldn't go higher than that. Keita might still want to come but I'd say it's over right now.
Liverpool - 2017/18
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Apparently, and again not exactly gospel, the rumour is its not the size of the bid per se. Its the size of the up-front payment which we will probably look to address. If its all true though of course. The official line is still RBL won't shift on any number or any payment plan.
Impressive that Liverpool are able to bid 66 million for a single player. With the amount of money it's bridging the gap, in this case between the well off and the super rich.
Remember last season when Klopp's crazy gegenpressen killed us mid-season and his tactics got 'found out'? People forgot we spent almost nothing net-wise to boost our team/squad. Then when everyone was crying out for a Mane replacement in January Klopp still refused to spend a penny (snigger). That's where all this money is coming from. We wouldn't be able to sustain this sort of spending every summer, its just that we've been desperately building and waiting for this one.
It's not the bid that is the issue, but the structure of payment. Leipzig want around 50% upfront and absorb Keita's 10% bonus. Deal will clear once this is sorted and then attention will move to van Dijk which will be relatively easier in comparison. Keita was not injured nor substituted, but walked off the pitch!
Fecking hell mate, you deserve to be banned if none of this proves to be true in a couple of weeks
Pretty weird from them to say they aren't going to sell him if they intend on doing so with the right payment structure, cos they'll look like fools/idiots by saying those things right now and then selling him anyway. I'll believe it when I see it but at the moment there are no or very few signs that we might still get it done.
He is a very useful and consistent player. Yet playing one good season doesn't make you world-class and the top left backs out there are quite a bit better. I just think it's funny that the same poster claimed in the past that Lucas, can and Henderson are among the best in Europe in their position. Delusional would be an understatement.
Do we have any alternatives to Keita and VVD? From the limited amount I have seen of him I think finding an alternative for Keita will be more of an issue as his playing style is quite unique but a centre back can be bought without having to spend £60 million+. Despite the improvement we can't go into the new season with Lovren as a starter at the back. Surely Koulibaly or Manolas are worth a punt, i wonder if we considered giving Roma a decent wedge to include Rudiger/Manolas in the Salah deal especially as they had financial issues at the time.
It wasn't some kind of masterstroke though. You scraped into the top four and broke records of poor results along with you.
You simply have to spend some money now as if you qualify for the CL (which isn't a gimme by the way) your current squad is paper thin.
There weren't any players Klopp thought would benefit us so we saved the money for when we really identified players he felt were worth the investment (like now) not all managers can get £250 million every summer. He was savvy, he took a risk with the squad depth last season but it worked out in the end.
This alone should secure them a transfer ban.
Yeah it did work out but he leaving it very late for acquiring the level of depth you need for next season.
Doesn't feel like it's an easy window to get deals done. I was expecting United, Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal to have done more by now. Clubs seem to be less willing to sell than they have been before.
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#LFC have agreed a £10million deal with Hull City for Andy Robertson.
#LFC have agreed a £10million deal with Hull City for Andy Robertson.
He's very underrated due to the club he plays for, or you're overrating other LB's (Which there's hardly an abundance of good ones) I've watched a lot of him since his move to England and he's a gem. If he played for a more fashionable club he'd be rated far higher. Add in being surrounded by a far more talented squad and he's going to up his game to the next level. Danny Rose is probably the best LB in the Prem atm, and I see no reason why Robertson can't hit that level.
I'd agree with that, Moreno is shocking. Robertson is a natural left footer too which can be useful.
Just bet my mate £50 quid that Liverpool wont sign VVD and Keita? That's got to be as safe as houses right!
I would say it's likely we won't get one of them let alone both. But, I wouldn't put money on it!
You might get 1 but surely not both! That would be like 150m or something, plus you have already got salah and robertson for like 50m. £200m in one transfer window - I just cant see it!
The willingness is there for it, I think. We're basically shopping for two summers worth this summer.
Whether we are able to is another matter altogether.
If you are alluding to me then I've never claimed Milner is a world class LB, just he had very good stats last season. As far as Lucas is concerned then I've never been a fan so that is more bollocks from you. Ditto Can and Henderson, I've never claimed anything of the sort. If you are not referring to me then state that and I'll happily delete this post.
I think it's quite clear we are willing to spend that. No doubt we'll get about £50m back in outbound transfers though (majority from Sakho - £20-30m).
Not so much two summer's worth as much as the funds being available due to a positive net spend last year along with the TV deal and CL in conjunction with just generally spending very little over the last couple years. The money is there for a splurge this summer. it won't be every summer but we've worked our way in to this position and if we get it right we won't need much more than 2-3 next summer if that.
It's just about FSG putting the money down and getting deals over the line . It'll be a spectacular feck up and things will get ugly if they don't.
Liverpool 2-0 FT vs Palace in the Asian whateverthefeckitis Cup in Hong Kong.
Cracking goal from Solanke, laid on by Origi. Origi got the second.
Cracking goal from Solanke, laid on by Origi. Origi got the second.
Solanke looks the shit!! That was some confident, and more importantly accurate, strike.
Keeper should have saved it
Yep seems a confident lad.
Great goal, absolute steal for 2 million. Scrolled down to the comments, and of course they're all about Lukaku
Think Solanke might score close to 10 PL goals if he features regularly as a sub for us this season. I've more confidence in him than Origi. Sturridge is better than he's ever been under Klopp as well, apparently.
I'm reading between the lines here but are suggesting everything klopp has done to this point has been part of a "master plan"?
Well I wouldn't have expected you to say anything else.
Hopefully, like Van Persie before him He can get over his injury issues to give us 2-4 20 goal plus seasons.
This season is pretty much his last at a top club should he fail to produce again.
Don't we deserve a little bit of luck with him? I mean if he gets close to his best, it saves us trying to find a top player in the most expensive position on a football pictch before factoring in the current ridiculous prices.
If they can't get Kieta and really want a box-to-box midfielder, surely they have to knock on their neighbour's door. I think Ross Barkley can be a wonderful player...needs a great manager though.
Fecking hell mate, you deserve to be banned if none of this proves to be true in a couple of weeks
Pretty weird from them to say they aren't going to sell him if they intend on doing so with the right payment structure, cos they'll look like fools/idiots by saying those things right now and then selling him anyway. I'll believe it when I see it but at the moment there are no or very few signs that we might still get it done.
Typical case of someone grasping for any desperate straw offered by some BS twitter accs.
Here's the full excerpt of what Mateschitz told Sport Bild
It ain't gonna happen.
Doesn't sound like a Klopp master plan at all, it's not even a master plan at all. Owners holding the cheque book tight so they can spend big afterwards is no genius move
I know I'm being a sucker but Studge looks awesome while fit. Always finding the right areas in the penalty box. Wouldn't be surprised if he's in the first team when the season kicks off.
And I've probably just jinxed him now.
And I've probably just jinxed him now.
I get all that and this looks a very troublesome transfer. But why are Liverpool still pursuing it? Why is Keita's agent in Hong Kong?Fecking hell mate, you deserve to be banned if none of this proves to be true in a couple of weeks
Pretty weird from them to say they aren't going to sell him if they intend on doing so with the right payment structure, cos they'll look like fools/idiots by saying those things right now and then selling him anyway. I'll believe it when I see it but at the moment there are no or very few signs that we might still get it done.
My suspicion is that Liverpool believe on some level that they can get this done. There's a logical reason to think that there's an avenue to get it sorted. Might not happen but it's not black and white.
At first I was confident this deal would get done, but now I'm pretty confident it wont. The only thing that is keeping me intrigued is not understanding why we are still pursuing him. It seems the club thinks they know something nobody else does. Only time will tell and if we do end up walking away empty handed, then we had better do it soon and move on before it becomes to late and we either end up with nothing or some shit panic buy.
It might be an attempt at getting him to agree on a move next year, when the RC becomes active. As others have outlined, he's going to be on the CL stage this year. If he impresses there, a large number of clubs will be in for him, some of them bigger than yours. A club like Barca would really do well with him.
Trying to secure him before the big guns come knocking might be your only chance.