johnny boy
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You're free to make a thread about it instead of playing the victim.
Ha Ha, can see the schools have let out, no homework to do?
You're free to make a thread about it instead of playing the victim.
What's the bigger picture? CL qualification and runner-up to Bayern is the highest I can see them finish in the foreseeable future. They can't attract top talents either without the status of a big club and no big wages to offer. Could be wrong though, but at the moment it doesn't seem like they're starting a City or PSG-like project. Imo they overachieved this season and will find it extremely hard to do better next season, with or without Keita.
Of course they'll struggle to repeat their last season. Yet they are playing the long game. In the long run they'll compete at the highest level. They have the financial muscle (RB+strong domestic market as sole eastern German top club), the patience and the competence (RB is already successful in other sports and rangnik is one of the best DoFs in the world).
There is always a tiny chance for almost any transfer, but in this case everything speaks against it. Selling keita makes no sense at all to them and goes against anything they did during the last years. He could easily be the difference between finishing top4 and missing out on the cl. That's much more important for them. Not just for financial reasons but because they want to establish themselves among the european elite.
Obviously Liverpool is entitled to still pursue this transfer (keita is a fantastic player and most clubs would be happy to get him,) but it is a longshot at best. Your management would be really stupid not to look for alternatives if you still need another cm.
There are seven founding members of RBL. Dietrich Mateschitz (Owner), Chalerm Yoovidhya (Co-Owner, son of the original co-founder), Oliver Mintzlaff (GM), Andreas Sadlo, Joachim Krug, Rot Weiss Ahlen, and Ulrich Wolter. Ralf Ragnick was originally coach of the club and then promoted to Sporting Director. So you can see just how Ragnick can be outranked on such major decisions where money is involved!
So, there is a definite need for an agenda by RB Leipzig to "appease" their hardcore supporters when selling some of their top players. What you have to understand is that information flow is never seamless. It can go from "appeasing" fans and continue to "buying time" to find replacements for outgoing players. What is so difficult to understand?
Of course they'll struggle to repeat their last season. Yet they are playing the long game. In the long run they'll compete at the highest level. They have the financial muscle (RB+strong domestic market as sole eastern German top club), the patience and the competence (RB is already successful in other sports and rangnik is one of the best DoFs in the world).
There is always a tiny chance for almost any transfer, but in this case everything speaks against it.
Selling keita makes no sense at all and goes against anything they did during the last years. He could easily be the difference between finishing top4 and missing out on the cl.
Ha Ha, can see the schools have let out, no homework to do?
It's understandable why RBL are so determined to keep the likes of Keita. Not only do they need to keep their best players, but they need to add a few more too. Last season they only played a total of 35 games - 34 in the league & 1 in the DFB-Pokal - so a bit like us, it'll be interesting to see how they cope with the extra fixtures that playing in the CL will bring (assuming we qualify that is). Losing key players even before the season starts is going make a difficult job even more difficult. I just hope we haven't put all our eggs in one basket with this lad. It's quite obvious that money isn't the driving force for the German side.
Can't say I disagree with any of that I hope Keita having his heart set on a Liverpool move (supposedly) can shift the odds in our favour, but if he accepts his future at Leipzig for at least one more season and they don't want to sell at any price, our chances go from maybe to pretty non-existant.Of course they'll struggle to repeat their last season. Yet they are playing the long game. In the long run they'll compete at the highest level. They have the financial muscle (RB+strong domestic market as sole eastern German top club), the patience and the competence (RB is already successful in other sports and rangnik is one of the best DoFs in the world).
There is always a tiny chance for almost any transfer, but in this case everything speaks against it. Selling keita makes no sense at all and goes against anything they did during the last years. He could easily be the difference between finishing top4 and missing out on the cl. That's much more important for them. Not just for financial reasons but because they want to establish themselves among the european elite.
Obviously Liverpool is entitled to still pursue this transfer (keita is a fantastic player and most clubs would be happy to get him,) but it is a longshot at best. Your management would be really stupid not to look for alternatives if you still need another cm.
It's odd we aren't linked with anyone else, same regarding Van Dijk.
Klopp seems quite cool about it all, but like you say they are 2 very important areas where we need to strengthen so we surely must have back up options, interesting to see how long we wait.
Also looks like Robertson is on his way from Hull - have to see if he is merely a back up for Milner.
That might be difficult. I was surprised myself to read recently that Milner has some of the best LB stats, not only just in the PL, but for the whole of Europe. I think Robertson will start as backup.He's definitely better than Miller, starter for sure.
That might be difficult. I was surprised myself to read recently that Milner has some of the best LB stats, not only just in the PL, but for the whole of Europe. I think Robertson will start as backup.
Christ that's a weak response.
I genuinely rate Milner as a LB, I was really surprised by how well he did in the position, but I think Robertson is absolutely class. He's going to really impress at Liverpool and could go on to be one of the best LB's in the Prem . I agree that he may start as a backup, but I reckon he'll cement his position as first choice in the first half of the season, with Milner filling in everywhere.
That might be difficult. I was surprised myself to read recently that Milner has some of the best LB stats, not only just in the PL, but for the whole of Europe. I think Robertson will start as backup.
I'll try and find them again.What stats is that? IIRC it was because he scored around 10 penalties he was rated higher but what are these stats?
I think he is just as likely to be competition for Clyne.Also looks like Robertson is on his way from Hull - have to see if he is merely a back up for Milner.
I just learned we have a kid in the u18s named Luis Longstaff.
I am desperate for him to make it with us.
I genuinely rate Milner as a LB, I was really surprised by how well he did in the position, but I think Robertson is absolutely class. He's going to really impress at Liverpool and could go on to be one of the best LB's in the Prem . I agree that he may start as a backup, but I reckon he'll cement his position as first choice in the first half of the season, with Milner filling in everywhere.
Can't find them at the moment (it was about a week ago I saw them so that's a lot of history even with the search function) ! It wasn't related to penalties/goals though. THis is the only one I can find so far ;What stats is that? IIRC it was because he scored around 10 penalties he was rated higher but what are these stats?
Can't find them at the moment (it was about a week ago I saw them so that's a lot of history even with the search function) ! It wasn't related to penalties/goals though. THis is the only one I can find so far ;
Markovic is on the way out - 100%. Watford made an offer which wasn't accepted, he'll be gone this window. Lots of promise he failed to fulfill.Is Markovic a squad contender at all? He's quite a good watch.
And there's the Emre Can - Most Promising Midfielder in Europe - situation to resolve isn't there?
Kevin Stewart has left the Liverpool squad to sign for Hull City. Deal could be up to £8m.
Good fee. He had no future at Liverpool.
Not happy with this comment at all. I wonder who our second choice is !
It's pretty impressive co-ordination considering time and distance !We keep doing this don't we?
That comment indicates Nostradamus was probably more correct than BigSky but I so wanted BigSky to be right. But GraemeKelly and BigSky are still very adamant that a deal is done so I will not lose all hope just yet.
Wtf? You do realise he's just a bullshitting caftard pretending to be ITK right?That comment indicates Nostradamus was probably more correct than BigSky but I so wanted BigSky to be right. But GraemeKelly and BigSky are still very adamant that a deal is done so I will not lose all hope just yet.
Not happy with this comment at all. I wonder who our second choice is !
That was truly awful, I had to turn it off after Milner started speaking.A video of the players saying goodbye to Lucas popped up on my timeline this morning. united didn't do that for Rooney did they? It was cringetastic though.
In fairness, Milner really WAS very good at LB for most of last seasonMilner is one of the best lbs in Europe like Lucas and Can are two of the best midfielders. I remember that a certain fan "backed that up" with some stats so it must be true.
Wtf? You do realise he's just a bullshitting caftard pretending to be ITK right?