They were favourites after the L16 draw because they got the easiest draw, they were not favourites after the L16
Liverpool - 2017/18
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I hope Salah starts looking lively again, he's looked kind of burned out in the last couple of games. We need him at his A-game vs RM.
On a sidenote, pretty interesting that Lampard rates Gerrard over Scholes, Vieira and Keane (and Yaya Toure, who the article is about): https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44042332
On a sidenote, pretty interesting that Lampard rates Gerrard over Scholes, Vieira and Keane (and Yaya Toure, who the article is about): https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44042332
Bayern was the better team that night. They had a well deserved lead and the best chances throughout the match including two hits at the woodwork before you had your few moments of magic in the end.
Any non United fan will tell you, that you were lucky that night.
Probably because in 1999 we were a truly exceptional team. If we'd lost to Bayern we'd still done the double and would be highly thought of.
Where as Liverpool in 2005 were complete shite. I mean, you even managed to somehow finish behind Everton.
I'd say we were lucky on the night in the Champions League final but it's a bit insulting to compare Utd 99 to Liverpool 05. Unless the comparison is Utd 99 were miles better than Liverpool 05.
I'm not comparing the two teams.. Obviously United '99 was a much better team than Liverpool 2005.
I am only comparing the finals, where we both met a better team on the night, who had the most and best chances and somehow we both won with a few minutes of magic.
You need a bit of luck nowadays - you don't get to play FC Bruges in the Final, innit - 
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Utd very lucky in '99 - didn't Munich keep thwacking the ball against the woodwork 2nd half - as well, like.
.Utd very lucky in '99 - didn't Munich keep thwacking the ball against the woodwork 2nd half - as well, like.
Yeah, you're right.. Those days of playing the likes of Bruges and Benfica in EC finals are long goneYou need a bit of luck nowadays - you don't get to play FC Bruges in the Final, innit -
I think Leipzig’s final league position (qualifying for the Europa League) means we’ll pay £52.75 million for Keita.
Mane’s a doubt for tomorrow but Lallana might be available.
Mane’s a doubt for tomorrow but Lallana might be available.
Murphy and Lawrenson bigging their chances of the CL this morning, with Lawrenson’s comments tantamount to calling Real cheats who might steal it with their “Dark Arts.”
Still not as bad as the passback rule, eh?
Still not as bad as the passback rule, eh?
Wouldn't risk Lallana.
Maybe Ings or Solanke come in and we play a diamond with Firmino in behind one of them and Salah?
Maybe. Honestly, I've no idea. Lallana likely won't be ready to start the CL final, but he is exactly the kind of energetic sub you want to give us that push in the second half if nothing else... But he's had no match time, so maybe he should play tomorrow, just to get the feel of it all again.
... I've no idea. Too hard to call.
Exactly, if Lallana is going to break down tomorrow then what's the point of 'saving' him for the final? Where he'll inevitably break down?
Its time to earn his place by starting to put his minutes on the pitch now.
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I'd play Lallana. Ings and Solanke are shite.
I think Ings has had some decent moments since coming back but yeah Solanke hasn’t looked good any time he’s played.
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Looks like we will be paying 52.75m pounds for Keita. Not bad at all if he is able to replicate his Bundesliga form.
Looks like we will be paying 52.75m pounds for Keita. Not bad at all if he is able to replicate his Bundesliga form.
A big positive of the season is that while going all the way in the CL, we still managed to keep a good level of performances in the league. Only 1 point less than last season when we didn't have all the midweek games.
We haven't managed to do this for quite some time.
We haven't managed to do this for quite some time.
Klopp’s rotation policy has worked out well this season.
I had my doubts when we failed to replace Coutinho but it all worked out in the end.
Coutinho is way overrated by 90% of people.
I said I would sell him in summer originally. IMO he actually imbalanced your side more, as he was one of your three midfielders. He had a decent work rate but not as much as the other guys who play in there. Even with current players your system exposed your back line and was more apparent with him
In there IMo.
Good player, but not your most important due to the way you play. Front three are all much more valuable to the system than he was.
Agree solid results based on the run, which I was surprised at tbh.
12 draws really cost them a lot of dropped points,they could have been a lot closer and finished runner up.
Klopp is good manager, with better players he cand do obviously better
Yeah but you could say that about united losing to 3 promoted sides which is an extra 9 points too. That’s the way the league works and why the winner is never wrong. The most clinical consistent team always end up on top
Not really, our league form nose dived since reaching the semis. Not that I'm complaining, other than top4 there was hardly anything on the line anymore, so it was somewhat understandable. But our lack of depth really shone thorugh in the last couple of weeks. Hopefully that will be addressed in the summer. The good thing about our squad is that apart from Salah there is hardly any chance anybody influential might leave in the summer, and even him would surprise me to be honest. Couple of signings to add to Keita and I think we will look good for maybe pushing City a bit harder next season. Unless they reproduce this form of course, in which case there is no point talking about the league.
Perfect end to the league season yesterday. Helped alleviate a lot of the concerns regarding possible fatigue ( it's amazing what a week's rest can do ). A lot of the plaudits quite rightly going to our attackers, but it's worth noting that this is the first time in 9 seasons that we've conceded less than 40 league goals. Incredible when you consider we conceded 16 of those 38 goals in the first 9 games. Since then we've been up there with the best when it comes to keeping them out. Doubt it'll stop some on here though coming out with the usual stuff about how shit our defence is.
Really looking forward to next season irrespective of what happens in the CL final. Think we'll be much stronger & more creative in the midfield area. We need to be, especially against the better teams. United, Spurs, & Chelsea, all took 4 points off us this time around. We need to improve upon that next season. Be great if we can get Adam Lallana back to full fitness. He was a big loss to us this season, & he'll play a key part for us in 2018/19 if he doesn't suffer too many injury setbacks. The selfish side of me hopes his recovery might come too late for his inclusion in England's World Cup squad
Really looking forward to next season irrespective of what happens in the CL final. Think we'll be much stronger & more creative in the midfield area. We need to be, especially against the better teams. United, Spurs, & Chelsea, all took 4 points off us this time around. We need to improve upon that next season. Be great if we can get Adam Lallana back to full fitness. He was a big loss to us this season, & he'll play a key part for us in 2018/19 if he doesn't suffer too many injury setbacks. The selfish side of me hopes his recovery might come too late for his inclusion in England's World Cup squad
Robinson and Van Dijk have also showed that our defensive issues are not just structural. Our left side is dead solid these days.
If we can perform to a similar level next season without dropping points from a winning position, we'll be close to winning the league.
Unfortunately I can see Guardiola racking up another 90pt season.
I'm feeling that heavy hints are afoot generally that 4th is the new 2nd when it's being done by a free scoring Liverpool.
Certain to be City's biggest challengers next season & all that, innit? The incoming narrative.
Certain to be City's biggest challengers next season & all that, innit? The incoming narrative.
Where have I heard that before?
Even when they are building a decent squad, its' still funny. Next year's their year.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect a title challenge next season, based on the progress made so far. Obviously a lot depends on summer transfer activity. City will want to try and cement their place at the top and it sounds like Mourinho wants to add a few options.
I’ll reassess at the end of the transfer window.
Our activity might be impacted by the news that Chamberlain is out until November.
I’ll reassess at the end of the transfer window.
Our activity might be impacted by the news that Chamberlain is out until November.
It does seem like Liverpool even without further additions (Keita aside) are setup to be City's biggest threat next season much as it pains me to say, City won't be as good next season and if Liverpool continue to improve there may not be a lot between the two
I just hope the old defensive issues arise again next season and we find out VVD and Karius aren't that good afterall
I just hope the old defensive issues arise again next season and we find out VVD and Karius aren't that good afterall
Ox news is a big blow, hope to feck it isn't an ACL.
If we get Yerri Mina on loan as reported then you will have many reasons to rejoice.
Maybe in a world without Guardiola, but I'm not convinced that Klopp can balance energy levels enough to do well without prioritzing competitions and City will be good for ~90 points next season as well if Pep's previous stints are anything to go by.
Whilst Guardiola is in the PL and with City's resources I fear we will all be playing for second place. I'm not sure City can replicate their 100 points total next season, but I'm struggling to see anyone finish above them. It's all well and good that we can beat them in one off games, but unless we (and other challengers) can massively improve on consistency then we'll fall short again. Is next season Pep's last or has he signed an extension?
The league was weak this season. None of the teams below Burnley were capable of taking points off a strong Top 6 team. City happened to be the only strong Top 6 team with no weaknesses and inconsistencies. Even in their dips they were scraping 2-1 wins.
If we buy some solid players for certain positions in the summer, we can match City's results if not playing style and challenge them. Depending on how the bottom 13 teams strengthen, City's and our results should be par.
It's weird for United and Pool fans to be very aligned on something when it comes to our teams, but if you asked most United fans they would feel the same about United. Battle for second as far as I can see. CITY didn't slow down. In fact they improved as the year went on.
100 points and they have hundreds of millions to improve on the squad. Fatigue won't set in the same way for City because they are so deep.
Really? Imo, we are still quite a bit away. Our lack of depth is a big concern, as we are one injury away from having to field Solanke, Ings or Moreno in the starting line up. Of course, Keita could hit the ground running, we could make some good buys and Lallana, Clyne and Ox (not until 2019 apparently) will be back at full force. But those are a lot of ifs.
Hope I'm wrong, mind.