He got some disgusting abuse today. Seemed like the UK broadcasters dimmed the crowd volume during the chants as no one seemed to pick up on it. It was loud and clear on foreign TV though, and it definitely did not sound like a 'few' daft Liverpool fans.
Liverpool - 2017/18
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Yeah thats bs you're spouting there. While I agree Evra was a victim and that the club and certain fans have behaved and reacted indecently regarding the Suarez/Evra incident I'd very much like to know how exactly tweeting "give a certain player an afternoon he wont forget" is actively supporting racism and encouraging physical assault?
you are in denial if you read the situation any other way.
Hated getting knocked out of the FA cup but look at the fortunes of West Brom and us today. One team looks relaxed after a trip to Dubai and has fresh players running around like it's the first game of the season. The other is looking knackered and about to lose the one thing they covet most - PL survival.
We know the harsh realities of knackered players by January/February from last season.
We know the harsh realities of knackered players by January/February from last season.
The ‘Looking Fresh And Relaxed After A Trip To Dubai’ trophy.
Far from it, its senseless banter from a Liverpool fan/former player who doesn't have the brains to accurately assess the true weight and fundamental issues regarding the fallout over the racism incident. Throwing around accusations of him inciting and actively encouraging racism and violence is just fan bias and playing the victim by aggrandizing any and all percieved "attacks" which in this case includes Riises tweets.
Is Riises tweet ill thought out, "inappropriate" and non helpful ? Yes. Does it "condone or actively encourage racism and violence"? No.
You should aspire for more than comparing your club with West Brom.
Yeah cause that is relevant and makes sense
How about calling racists out instead huh?
Be interesting to see what our regulars think about the dogs abuse Evra got today for being the victim of racism at Anfield?
Thus far, and credit to him, only @Klopper76 has been direct enough to tackle the disgusting behaviour head on and give his thoughts.
@Rafateria @Tommy @Dumbstar @B20 @RobinLFC @PickledRed @ShadesOfTomato @Cassady @johnny boy @Oga on top. @Liver_bird
Thus far, and credit to him, only @Klopper76 has been direct enough to tackle the disgusting behaviour head on and give his thoughts.
@Rafateria @Tommy @Dumbstar @B20 @RobinLFC @PickledRed @ShadesOfTomato @Cassady @johnny boy @Oga on top. @Liver_bird
Actually I think it does.
Shameful behaviour from our fans chanting that shit at Evra to be honest. Abusing someone for being the victim of racist abuse is disgusting.
We all got up in arms when Brewster was racially abused so it's pretty fecking hypocritical for some of us to chant shit at a player for daring to report abuse hes suffered from one of our former players.
There are many many things bigger then rivalry and kicking racism out of football is one of them. Very dissapointed in what I heard today
We all got up in arms when Brewster was racially abused so it's pretty fecking hypocritical for some of us to chant shit at a player for daring to report abuse hes suffered from one of our former players.
There are many many things bigger then rivalry and kicking racism out of football is one of them. Very dissapointed in what I heard today
what on earth is it about that club that effects anyone that goes near it? its like their brains have no filter
City and Liverpool can beat anyone in the Champions League imo.
How so? They’re accusing Evra of lying about being racially abused, not racially abusing him.
I wanted to stay out of it but it was poor form. Anfield fans barely sing in the ground but they'll happily abuse a player who was more than likely racially abused. Idiots.
Very true.
How about: City have scored 111 goals and we've got 103. Would love to overtake them if they slow up.
We have a lot more to win yet.
J A Riise is a disgusting idiot
I’m sorry but why is this necessary? Might be my memory is wrong, but didn’t Suarez actually use the «it’s a term of endearment» as a defence? You just gave away much more than you wanted to do, so kudos. (If I’m not remembering it wrong, if so ignore me)
I condemned it in the match thread. Even if some consider Suarez innocent in that whole affair, the chanting throws us back to what was an ugly affair for the club all round.
However, I think it should be understood that the intentions of LFC fans in singing that song aren't to goad Evra for being racially abused, but to ridicule him for being a liar and part of some conspiracy to tarnish Suarez/get him banned (which they genuinely believe, but I don't wish to get into a debate about that). So I don't think you can call the chanting racist. More deluded, depending on your perspective.
Additionally, I'm not a huge fan of Suarez in general and the thought of anyone chanting his name at Anfield makes me cringe. The guy handed in a transfer request to join Arsenal, then openly courted Coutinho in the press. He has no special affiliation with LFC and is in no way a club legend as some deluded fans would have you believe.
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This desire to tiptoe around using the word 'racist' does my head in. If you direct abuse at a player that called out racism, that is racist. It's not just 'inappropriate' or 'deluded' or whatever other euphemism people want to use - it's straight out racism, even if not in its intent then most certainly in its discriminatory impact on Evra and by virtue of the fact that it pretty directly gives support to the general structure of racism. Kind of like how if you believe the conspiracy that Jews run the world, you're being anti-semitic and not just an idiot.
You can be idiotic/deluded and racist at the same time. In fact, it's pretty common. Let's not minimise the very serious harm stuff like this does in an attempt to spare the sensibilities of football fans that would prefer not to think of themselves as racist.
You can be idiotic/deluded and racist at the same time. In fact, it's pretty common. Let's not minimise the very serious harm stuff like this does in an attempt to spare the sensibilities of football fans that would prefer not to think of themselves as racist.
Even as a United supporter I admit that's a more apt comparison!Very true.
How about: City have scored 111 goals and we've got 103. Would love to overtake them if they slow up.
Adding SJW to your trolling CV I see.Yeah cause that is relevant and makes sense
How about calling racists out instead huh?
It was also a bit small time. You know when something beautiful is happening when their aim is to finish above Liverpool.
Should be held to account, we as a club can never move on if the fans are going to behave in the atrocious manner that they did. Leaves a really sour taste in the mouth and is detrimental to the perception of the club as whole, not to mention how the victim evra must feel.
On a related tangent one thing I've always hated is the false equivalence used in regards to the Munich/Hillsborough chants, people will always say, ' well yeah but they're both as bad as each other ' even when one side is much more vocal than the other. These individual events need to be stamped out but alas football is inherently triabalistic by nature and some sections of both supports as a whole will never stop because it's something thats been ingrained in them and cultivated over a period of time.
I have a great deal of respect for United due to how they earned their success. However Manchester-Liverpool is a divide that has spanned decades and always evokes such primal and incandescent emotions in the hearts of its people that it's impossible to completely stem these things altogether.
Do also agree with @Klopper76's point though. A lot of what occurred today originates from the delusion that it was a Fifa conspiracy to screw the club rather than outright malice towards Evra.
Just like Everton did .
I reckon the second leg against Porto is going to Traveller us though . I hope we don't succumb to the away goal.
I fundamentally disagree. Ignorance or a lack of intelligence is a lazy and convenient cop-out. I don't believe that Riise doesn't understand the implications of targeting Evra in this way.
Our aim is not to finish above Liverpool. That's just not a thing. Especially given the last 25/30 years where Liverpool have faded from competitive relevance, with a few exceptions aside.
No doubt you're looking better this year, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Typical inbred dippers. Abusing the fecking victim of racial abuse... Offended by everything, ashamed of nothing.
I was in the Anfield Road end for Europa League match a few seasons back. What came out of sections of your fan base was vile and disgusting, aimed at persons deceased. I saw others in the lower Main Stand, from our fan base respond, which was equally vile and disgusting and also aimed at persons deceased. Its an apauling indictment of sections of both our fan base. I’ve already said that what happened to Patrice Évra was wrong and not acceptable, I didn’t and dont use the word ‘disgusting’ as I reserve that for what I witnessed above.
However wrong we personally view what happened to Evra, in my opinion it pales in comparison to insulting the dead. But thats only my opinion, and in no way does it indemnify any supporter abusing any player for any reason.
+ Idiots like Riise only serve to inflame and incite these situations - football can be a dark place.
It appears that I had exceeded my post quota for the day so unable to respond until this morning !!
That tweet from Riise is so stupid. And the same goes for the chants directed at Evra. Not two ways about that.
No matter how much we might dislike Evra, we should accept the fact, that he was racially abused by Suarez. No need to keep reminding people about that incident.
I see some people still look to put blame on the club and the whole set of fans.. No way. I didn't racially abuse him. Suarez did, and he is no longer at the club, so case closed for my part.
No matter how much we might dislike Evra, we should accept the fact, that he was racially abused by Suarez. No need to keep reminding people about that incident.
I see some people still look to put blame on the club and the whole set of fans.. No way. I didn't racially abuse him. Suarez did, and he is no longer at the club, so case closed for my part.
Right...
With Klopper on this. In fact on the LFC forums I inhabit that vast majority are also with him.
As has been said it's the brain-dead minority who don't see the damage they are doing (to both the club and anti-racism) and hypocrisy (Brewster - though I doubt most of them have even heard his name) of their actions. That said I'd not be against booing Evra per se of course as he is an ex- long serving Manc !
I was a big fan of Brendan Rodgers, I thought he did an excellent job considering his limited managerial background prior to taking over. He got us closer to winning the PL than any other manager, & he had us playing some terrific stuff. Looking back though, I feel the job became too big for him when he had to deal with the loss of Suarez, the long-term injuries to Sturridge, & the fact that players like Gerrard & Carragher had come to the end of their playing careers. Given the same opportunities as Klopp I'm not convinced he'd have us playing at the level we're playing right now. & this is coming from someone who's been highly critical of our German manager in the past. The one area where Jurgen Klopp is far superior to Rodgers is in Europe. Brendan's record, & a lot of our performances, were very poor. I certainly doubt we'd be looking forward to a quarter final tie in the CL if he were still our gaffer.
Are you saying you are not a big club?