No way Liverpool finish in the top four... West Ham have a better chance.
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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Shit result, doesn't really feel like one of those times were a draw feels like a win either. Missed opportunity thanks to our embarrassing defence
I am losing some faith in rodgers. He'll never fix the defence.
Wenger's weren't better either.
I think Borini or another striker were subbed too late. That puts too much pressure on them to get a result in 15 minutes. Apart from the red card Borini did okayish.
Lallana was so, so. He was more useful than Gerrard.
Markovic had a good first 30 minutes, but he declined a bit after that.
I just think it's nonsense to play Sterling upfront. You need to be in top form as a team too be able to afford that. But, you're not. Arsenal looked more composed today.
This way you'll find it difficult to outscore an opponent.
TBF this system has some potential when Sturridge returns and they have a mobile forward who can finish as the focal point of their attack.
But if they can play so well and still concede 2 goals it doesn't really bode well. It must be said, that Arsenal were absolutely criminal in the amount of space they afforded Liverpool. Even shitter teams won't make that mistake.
But if they can play so well and still concede 2 goals it doesn't really bode well. It must be said, that Arsenal were absolutely criminal in the amount of space they afforded Liverpool. Even shitter teams won't make that mistake.
Carragher said on MNF that Rodgers is different from Benitez and Houllier in that he doesn't specifically have separate drills with the back 4 to work on positioning etc.
It really shows.
I didn't say they were. I didn't even mention Arsenal's performance in my post, so strange to bring it up.
Again, another strange comparison. Gerrard was so, so. He was more useful than Jones.
No, you don't have to be. It's not nonsense either. It makes perfect sense. In our three matches with him as a striker we've created more, have had far more shots on target and have played better generally. Lambert and Borini have looked useless and Balotelli hasn't been great either. It's a good decision and one Rodgers should persist with.
Brendan's brought sexy back at least. I thought this would be Brendan's last game but I think he'll go to the bank and get the credit he's built up from last season to see it through.
Any more shocking purchases from him though (forget the committee, its all him) in January and no amount of sexy football will save him in May.
Any more shocking purchases from him though (forget the committee, its all him) in January and no amount of sexy football will save him in May.
sexy? 
oh well....
oh well....
sexy?
oh well....
You obviously didn't see our last three games. That's fair enough.
I know. At one point even Cazorla couldn't resist and had to get his tits out.
I did see the match against us and half the match v Arsenal...
you were cack...
but you support Liverpool and I can understand why you would be giddy.
I could imagine Arsenal fans running their hands down their TVs while he was doing that. I posted this in the race for fourth thread but it may be more fitting here.
I still saw them as a threat for fourth ( I think we'll get third and Arsenal fourth) but stuff like this makes it ominous for Liverpool. I remember last year knowing we weren't going to get fourth despite some people thinking we'll go on a run - is that where Liverpool fans are at now? We won the title and finished outside top four so it wouldn't be unusual for it to happen particularly with more rich clubs these days.
I still saw them as a threat for fourth ( I think we'll get third and Arsenal fourth) but stuff like this makes it ominous for Liverpool. I remember last year knowing we weren't going to get fourth despite some people thinking we'll go on a run - is that where Liverpool fans are at now? We won the title and finished outside top four so it wouldn't be unusual for it to happen particularly with more rich clubs these days.
seriously Dumbstar...
You have one player who is good. Cautinho... Sterling runs up too many blind alleys.
The rest are average to poor.
But I think Sturridge coming back will be a big positive.
You have one player who is good. Cautinho... Sterling runs up too many blind alleys.
The rest are average to poor.
But I think Sturridge coming back will be a big positive.
I think I'll bold these two and leave them hanging here. No need for me to reply other than that.
please do.....I love how deluded you are..
EDIT: Sexy football
you are not serious.....
You can't blame him for not wanting to pass to the rest of the shower of shite around him
ahhhhhhhhhhh
...and the the insight into why he is reluctant to sign that new contract....
I'm still pissing myself over the 'sexy football' bit..
oh well.....
I've never noticed you before but your few posts on this page of this quality make me realise you know SFA about football so I'll ignore you from now on.
Jones - 6.5 - steady, generally excellent distribution and kicking. I prefer him in goal to Ming. Can't blame him for either goal.
Skrtel - 4 - Courageous and a superb header to save us a point (however I'm not giving him a point for it because we shouldn't have been in that situation in the first place) should save him from the criticism he deserves. Ball watching for BOTH goals. Was completely unaware of Debuchy - even though he was his man - had he just stepped up one pace Debuchy would have been offside. For the second there was only one player, Giroud, to mark yet his eyes were fixed on the ball, a yard closer to Giroud and he cuts out the pass. People will say I've got it in for Skirts, but that's not all true, I didn't used to have, it's only recently I've come to realise how fecking shite he really is.
Lucas - 7 - I would give him more but he completely dozed off over the past 10-15 mins. Unlucky with his shot, I thought it was excellent under pressure.
Gerrard - 6.5 - I honestly don't understand the criticism in the match thread. He & Lucas dominated the midfield. Most of his 'hollywood passes' found the man, a high % considering the difficulty level.
Markovic - 7 - keep it up lad. His passing, as well as his control and pace, is excellent. I think he still needs to adjust to the pace of the PL because a few times it seems he thought he had more time than he actually did.
Coutinho - 8.5 - just his shooting detracts from a 9 or 9.5 performance.
Others :
Sakho - 7.5 (Excellent), Toure - 6.5, Lallana - 7, Hendo - 6.5, Sterling - 7.
Borini - disappointing because at least he was getting into the right places, was pulling the defence around and he can actually, you know, shoot !
BR - 7 - I understand the Markovic substitution. When I saw Borini coming on I wondered who would go off but Marko had been a little quiet for the previous 10 mins. Obviously it was to push Sterling wide and to get someone who can actually strike a ball into the centre.
It's so good watching people who can actually control a ball in possession; Lallana, Coutinho, Lucas, Markovic, Gerrard and Sterling were all excellent in that regard and the difference it makes in ball retention and denying the opposition the opportunity to attack is very important to our game. We were very unlucky not to win that - and I think most neutral commentators are in agreement. If we keep on playing like that then we will quickly rise up the league to fight it out for 4th.
Skrtel - 4 - Courageous and a superb header to save us a point (however I'm not giving him a point for it because we shouldn't have been in that situation in the first place) should save him from the criticism he deserves. Ball watching for BOTH goals. Was completely unaware of Debuchy - even though he was his man - had he just stepped up one pace Debuchy would have been offside. For the second there was only one player, Giroud, to mark yet his eyes were fixed on the ball, a yard closer to Giroud and he cuts out the pass. People will say I've got it in for Skirts, but that's not all true, I didn't used to have, it's only recently I've come to realise how fecking shite he really is.
Lucas - 7 - I would give him more but he completely dozed off over the past 10-15 mins. Unlucky with his shot, I thought it was excellent under pressure.
Gerrard - 6.5 - I honestly don't understand the criticism in the match thread. He & Lucas dominated the midfield. Most of his 'hollywood passes' found the man, a high % considering the difficulty level.
Markovic - 7 - keep it up lad. His passing, as well as his control and pace, is excellent. I think he still needs to adjust to the pace of the PL because a few times it seems he thought he had more time than he actually did.
Coutinho - 8.5 - just his shooting detracts from a 9 or 9.5 performance.
Others :
Sakho - 7.5 (Excellent), Toure - 6.5, Lallana - 7, Hendo - 6.5, Sterling - 7.
Borini - disappointing because at least he was getting into the right places, was pulling the defence around and he can actually, you know, shoot !
BR - 7 - I understand the Markovic substitution. When I saw Borini coming on I wondered who would go off but Marko had been a little quiet for the previous 10 mins. Obviously it was to push Sterling wide and to get someone who can actually strike a ball into the centre.
It's so good watching people who can actually control a ball in possession; Lallana, Coutinho, Lucas, Markovic, Gerrard and Sterling were all excellent in that regard and the difference it makes in ball retention and denying the opposition the opportunity to attack is very important to our game. We were very unlucky not to win that - and I think most neutral commentators are in agreement. If we keep on playing like that then we will quickly rise up the league to fight it out for 4th.
Can't agree with Barney on Lallana at all. He was generally very good again today - in the Pool forum I'm on he is the one constant in the voting for top 3 performances of the day.
I'm gutted...that coming from a deluded scouser...
I'm with Barney. His ball control was good as always but I think too often he held on to it for 2 or 3 touches too many. He really needs to learn to release the ball quicker because it's stopping him from performing at a higher level.
Liked his work off-the-ball, though. He pressed well.
Lallana is currently equal 2nd behind Coutinho on the Echo MoM voting
Lallana is the sort player who looks good on the ball but doesn't really do much with it. Not enough anyway.
Just to rub salt in the wounds...last year's Emre Can (Luis Alberto, a talented midfielder who rots on our bench) has just came on and scored a really nice goal for Málaga. No idea why he didn't get a proper chance for us.
I said that before he joined. He's had a few good performances so far but generally I still think that's true. His technique is quality but his decision making doesn't match up. So far, anyway.
Why is the new Fabregas(barneys description) Suso not getting a chance?
Injured, don't think he's fully fit yet. Not that he had many chances before his injury...
Unlike Can he would get beaten in a foot race with Lambert.
Stats:
Possession : 63.5% to 36.5% (the lowest stat recorded for Arsenal since Opta started keeping records).
Shots : 27 (10) to 7 (3)
Shots Blocked : 4 to 1
Corners : 10 to 6
Passes : 609 to 345
Passes Long : 9.7% to 15.7%
Crosses : 20 to 13
Tackles : 32 to 26
Fouls : 6 to 14
Possession : 63.5% to 36.5% (the lowest stat recorded for Arsenal since Opta started keeping records).
Shots : 27 (10) to 7 (3)
Shots Blocked : 4 to 1
Corners : 10 to 6
Passes : 609 to 345
Passes Long : 9.7% to 15.7%
Crosses : 20 to 13
Tackles : 32 to 26
Fouls : 6 to 14
Injured. Back on 1st January.
Sakho, Lucas, Coutinho and Markovic were all very good.
Toure decent, so was Lallana.
I am just not seeing it with Lallana. He does decently in everything and has a bright spark or two, but compare him to someone like Coutinho, who will go past players, carry it forward from deep, take some terrific touches under pressure and get on the end of things as well... he may be more erratic but at least he stamps his mark on the game. Lallana is a cog. Can look good doing it, but that's all he is.
Henderson, like he is all the time at the moment, was just so very bland. No ambition or cutting edge. Gets mark for having his basics sorted.
Jones might have saved one of the goals if he were a better keeper but he is not. Did ok all things considered.
Sterling struggled to get in the game. This was not the best of circumstances for him to try and be a striker in and it showed.
Gerrard was poor. Fecked too many hard passes he didn't need to hit, shot too many where he shouldn't. What he did well, Lucas did well too and cleaned up the midfield.
Don't get me started on Skrtel. No marks.
Toure decent, so was Lallana.
I am just not seeing it with Lallana. He does decently in everything and has a bright spark or two, but compare him to someone like Coutinho, who will go past players, carry it forward from deep, take some terrific touches under pressure and get on the end of things as well... he may be more erratic but at least he stamps his mark on the game. Lallana is a cog. Can look good doing it, but that's all he is.
Henderson, like he is all the time at the moment, was just so very bland. No ambition or cutting edge. Gets mark for having his basics sorted.
Jones might have saved one of the goals if he were a better keeper but he is not. Did ok all things considered.
Sterling struggled to get in the game. This was not the best of circumstances for him to try and be a striker in and it showed.
Gerrard was poor. Fecked too many hard passes he didn't need to hit, shot too many where he shouldn't. What he did well, Lucas did well too and cleaned up the midfield.
Don't get me started on Skrtel. No marks.
That's fecking amazing if true - it really does show ! Bring Carra in as defensive coach .. or Sami, he'll be out of a job soon.
What you have to remember with Lallana is he is generally playing further up the pitch than Coutinho, either wide right or today wide left, so you are not going to see those slaloming runs. His best position is exactly where Coutinho is now (so great we have a like for like replacement). However I simply love the way Lallana drags defenders to him because that ball is damn well glued to his feet, once we get Studge back it will make a big difference to his assists (though he got another today).
Can isn't the quickest off the mark either (but a powerful runner when he gets going...). Anyway, our current options in midfield are hardly lightning fast.
Luis Alberto most likely wouldn't have amounted to much at Liverpool but it's frustrating that he didn't get a chance and it's even more frustrating that the same is happening now with Emre Can.