The other two are fair-play to an extent. But genuine question - and this is not really a dig at your club mate but do you honestly believe Liverpool has the financial wherewithal and can offer the sporting incentive to realistically lure him to Merseyside ? Sure, Liverpool are vastly superior in terms of historical stature but football is increasing moving towards instant gratification and results. Might be wrong, but I just can't envision Klopp as a Liverpool manager in the near future given that BVB is in large part his brainchild and he is bound by contractual obligation till 2018, the fact that they have revenues of $333 m vs $313 m for Liverpool; and he'd be essentially sidestepping from one underdog (in relation to Bayern) to Liverpool (in relation to United, Chelsea, City, Arsenal - purely in financial terms if nothing else) and also likely missing out on Europe (a potential reason for leaving Dortmund).
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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The other two are fair-play to an extent. But genuine question - and this is not really a dig at your club mate but do you honestly believe Liverpool has the financial wherewithal and can offer the sporting incentive to realistically lure him to Merseyside ? Sure, Liverpool are vastly superior in terms of historical stature but football is increasing moving towards instant gratification and results. Might be wrong, but I just can't envision Klopp as a Liverpool manager in the near future given that BVB is in large part his brainchild and he is bound by contractual obligation till 2018, the fact that they have revenues of $333 m vs $313 m for Liverpool; and he'd be essentially sidestepping from one underdog (in relation to Bayern) to Liverpool (in relation to United, Chelsea, City, Arsenal - purely in financial terms if nothing else) and also likely missing out on Europe (a potential reason for leaving Dortmund).
Lost? we finished our chances at the other end. It's as if we'd not have scored any goals had we been playing someone else. Stop making excuses.
That's possibly because you've been terrible for that long (I haven't seen every one of your games to know but you were poor against Southampton and Arsenal at the least).
Not sure what this "you're trying to make yourself better" thing is about. I'd rather my own team were beat by a team on form than beat by a rival that weren't even at their best. I'm not trying to convince myself you're going to stutter in the race for 4th, that's gone as far as I'm concerned, I just genuinely do think you were terrible today.
Excuses for what? We were shit and didn't deserve to win. You did, but again that doesn't mean you played well.
This is the team that sold Agger for 3 million and signed Lovern for 20. Not a single one of the back five, or even Gerrard at DM, belong there if they want to compete.
Spurs got an excellent away win tonight too.
Sorry I had to laugh, you said you havent seen all 6 games but you say we were terrible for the whole part, all 6 games. That's just ridiculous. Back your statements with facts.
We weren't terrible, we were poor in the 1st half, but grew in the 2nd.
As I said if you want the word terrible look at Liverpool's season so far.
We have a lot of things to improve but are still winning, imagine what will happen when we'll click and have our injured players back, most of them being crucial for us.
We competed last season with Gerrard at DM, Skrtel at CB, Toure at CB, Mignolet in goal, etc.
United weren't terrible but we was great.
I love that though, because we are getting results, knowing we have key players coming back, the likes of Falcao getting his fitness, Di Maria to come back, Blind/Shaw/Rafael - Whats concerning for Liverpool is other than Sturridge, they don't have any injuries and they have just got thrashed against a injury hit team who have still many more potential more gears to go into.
If i was a Liverpool fan and be concerned not only about the state of the current squad, but future because there's no potential there when you look at the squad and say 'next season is the one'.
I love that though, because we are getting results, knowing we have key players coming back, the likes of Falcao getting his fitness, Di Maria to come back, Blind/Shaw/Rafael - Whats concerning for Liverpool is other than Sturridge, they don't have any injuries and they have just got thrashed against a injury hit team who have still many more potential more gears to go into.
If i was a Liverpool fan and be concerned not only about the state of the current squad, but future because there's no potential there when you look at the squad and say 'next season is the one'.
Sorry I had to laugh, you said you havent seen all 6 games but you say we were terrible for the whole part, all 6 games. That's just ridiculous. Back your statements with facts.
He didn't say you were terrible for six games. He said you were terrible today and you said you had been hearing that for six games and he says a possible explanation for that could be that you have been terrible, but he wouldn't know as he hasn't watched you in all six of those games. Christ.
Sorry I had to laugh, you said you havent seen all 6 games but you say we were terrible for the whole part, all 6 games. That's just ridiculous. Back your statements with facts.
We weren't terrible, we were poor in the 1st half, but grew in the 2nd.
As I said if you want the word terrible look at Liverpool's season so far.
You maybe missed where I said possibly.
Guess I'll have to repeat myself but I've said Liverpool have been terrible all season. I'm not trying to compare either side.
Another travesty of a result.
United missing 6 starters, including the whole first choice back 4 and the club record signing. Having to play two wingers as fullbacks and two centre backs rushed back from injury.
And Liverpool still lose 3-0. Happy days
And Liverpool still lose 3-0. Happy days
Are you his lawyer?
People like Rafateria can keep saying we didn't deserve to win and that we played poorly but despite our obvious defensive frailty and the make shift back 4 (or 5) we put together every week, the game looked really easy for us. 3-0 is generous, we could have had 4 or 5. Yes, we also could have allowed a goal or two but thankfully we have the best goalie in the league. Imagine that, the goalie saved shots from going in the net and you didn't score? It must be hard to remember what a real goalie is like with Mingolet and Jones as your options.
Fair enough, so I must inform you, we weren't in fact terrible in all of our 6 games.
And I would feel worse if my team would loose to 'terrible' team rather then against very good one.
Last season is last season.
They are a woeful side, truly.
And with Suarez and Sturridge. And you conceded goals for fun too. this year you can't compensate conceded goals up front.
But also with Suarez and Sturridge up front. That is the difference. You're on track to allow as many goals as last season, but score less than half.
RvP had a good chance that forced a decent save from Jones toward the end and Rooney could have had a 2nd as well.
Honestly, were they not the reason you lost the league ?
I didn't say otherwise, but to say we can't compete with them is nonsense. We can, we just have to have Sturridge fit and another player on Suarez's level (of which only Aguero, Messi and Ronaldo are at) in our team. If we don't have that, then no, obviously we cannot compete.
What's exactly funny?
Don't give us any credit. We were lucky to score even 3, of course.
I would argue Mignolet and Toure both played their parts in getting us close and Gerrard was absolutely key in getting us anywhere near it. Rodgers could have sacrificed Gerrard defensively for someone like Lucas, but we would not have created or scored as many.
Also, Everton can put them in the bottom half tomorrow.
We're hearing that every week and yet the only reasonably competent team to do that have been City. They barely managed it.
Liverpool were the better side in the 1st half but shot themselves in both feet with kamikaze 'defending' and poor 'finishing' abetted by the ref and DeGea.
It was Fergie like, saved goals at the back, scored goals up top, individual brilliance, this is becoming a habit now, 6 in a row and each time all I hear is the performance was not good but in the past getting the job done won us championships.
But we are shitUnited missing 6 starters, including the whole first choice back 4 and the club record signing. Having to play two wingers as fullbacks and two centre backs rushed back from injury.
And Liverpool still lose 3-0. Happy days
This was the mainly the same team as last year. Still making mistakes but actually we were quite comfortable in the second half. We just sat back and let them come at us knowing we would get another chance. Could of been a lot more.
So they weren't the better side.
Surely not finishing chances and poor defending does not win games?
And they formed the basis of your worst defense in about 50 years if memory serves.
And all those chances created was through what? Top quality football through a solid United defence?
Spoken like a true gunner.
Brad Jones looked like so poor today.
They need to put Mignolet back.
They need to put Mignolet back.
No. Leave him in there in order to send a message out to Mignolet.
He wasn't good but realistically if we threw Mignolet back in he'd be just as likely to make a cock up. Neither are good enough.