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Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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In the context of things, I think FSG couldn't now give a sh*t about the Carling Cup (winning it didn't save Dalglish). But I don't think we have what it takes to win against Arsenal (i.e. goalscorers) so that could very well be Brendan's last game.
You do realize that the only difference that goal not being given would have made is to ours and your goal difference, right?
Quite obviously you lot are all ecstatic are winning 3-0. But how many are actually happy with the performance ? Answer in one sentence and don't include the words 'injuries' or 'missing'.
RAWK seem to think that Rodgers has fallen out with Sakho and is punishing him.
Is this true?
I'm delighted that a mediocre performance was sufficient to beat Liverpool 3-0.
Is that really so ? You mean that 1-0 at HT instead of 2-0, thereby forcing us into making changes to try to salvage something from the match (leaving ourselves open), makes no difference ? And that the match would still have ended 2-0 instead of 3-0 ?
Mate they're probably even happier playing ordinary and handing us our arses. I know I would be if the boot were on the other foot.
Not to mention we've won 6 games on the bounce, playing pretty poorly in at least 3 of those. Imagine what we'll be capable of when we're playing well
There is no way that a man who had us playing as a 'team' (a massive emphasis on that) last season deserves to be sacked after less than half of this season. A poll on the forum I'm on shows 80% of the fans feel the same. He needs to be given time, I don't agree with sacking managers every time you go through a poor spell (without the two players that scored near 50 goals in the PL for you last season).
You're deluded if you think you had a chance in hell regardless of the offside or not. You couldn't hit a barn door out there.
ha ha - true. Personally if I was a United supporter I'd be very disappointed with the performance even if ecstatic at the result. Considering how Liverpool have been playing recently they would not have expected to be the team on the defensive.
Well we quite obviously did have a very good chance as De Gea's MoM performance shows - unfortunately Sterling's confidence in shooting situations is extremely low at the moment.
Liverpool played with more attacking verve, but United's defending was equal to the task.
Rodgers would have been better off parking the bus to hide his defensive deficiencies. Instead he tried to attack United which left his defenders exposed.
Were United awful today? Yes, I'm unhappy with that performance. I doubt Van Gaal will be pleased with the passing on display either, especially in the first half. But on the other hand they showed some backbone and finished off the opportunities that Liverpool afforded them.
Rodgers would have been better off parking the bus to hide his defensive deficiencies. Instead he tried to attack United which left his defenders exposed.
Were United awful today? Yes, I'm unhappy with that performance. I doubt Van Gaal will be pleased with the passing on display either, especially in the first half. But on the other hand they showed some backbone and finished off the opportunities that Liverpool afforded them.
Very disappointed? our keeper put in yet another world class display and players( Valencia, Young and Fellaini) that we thought would heading out the door are playing out of their skins and have turned it around. Not to mention our strikers being bang on form and doing their jobs.
I'm delighted with that performance. Well deserved and sweet as feck.
Yeah exactly, so it would've made no difference. Also I'm not sure how you divulge that if you're not able to score when 2-0 down you'd somehow find it easier to score 1-0 down.
This is getting better. Keep it up.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Brendan fan as even Utd fans on here will admit. I love Brendan's style of football and would like to see more. But its not going to happen because to build that style you need to buy the correct players. He's done' no such thing over three years. He's had good players to work with but none of the good ones were his purchases. Not one single good player.
Liverpool now desperately need to buy in January's fire sales and I can guarantee you 100% of LFC fans (and FSG) don't want him to spend a single penny of any budget. He'll buy more Lovrens and Aspases. If a manager is not to spend, or contribute in discussions to spend, any money then there's little point of having that manager. I think he'll be gone as results aren't about to correct themselves over the next 3-5 games. Which leads us conveniently into the next transfer window.
Well, that wasn’t good. That result hurt and it hurt badly. That said, I do think there were some positives to take from the game despite having been drubbed 3-0. Firstly, that was probably our best performance of the season since the Spurs game. I thought, in general, we played well. In possession we were good and we created enough chances to win the game. It was clear once Sterling missed that third sitter that we were never going to score today. He looks knackered, by the way. I have said this in the past and I stand by it, Rodgers should rest him until Sturridge is fit again. It would do him the world of good. Markovic looks to be finding some form now so he would be a like for like replacement. I keep saying things like “if Sturridge had been on the end of that, he would have scored” and “We win that game with Sturridge” and while we probably would have scored at least a couple of our chances had that been the case, that excuse is getting very old. He’s been out for four months. We should have some sort of solution to grind out results by now. This is not good enough.
I liked most of the team selection by Rodgers before the match. Obviously would have liked to have seen Sakho in instead of Lovren or Skrtel, Toure in instead of Johnson, Can in instead of Allen and Markovic in for any one of the other attacking options, but it was still a major improvement selection wise from what we have been seeing. Jones wasn’t too bad. Thought his play on the third goal was shocking, but in truth, he did not have much to do besides pick the ball up out the back of his net. I would definitely continue with him in the side. Lacked any command of his box though. From where I was standing I could hear him and there was little communication from him. I don’t think any of our defenders had a good game with the exception of Toure and Henderson. Henderson missed, not an easy chance, but a chance I would expect him to score with that header. Allen (think it was him) was left completely exposed by Moreno who decided to go galavanting off doing God knows what. Thought it was ridiculously harsh to pull Lallana off especially for Balotelli. Markovic should have been the first player to be brought on. Gerrard was not anything special, do not think he was awful either. Just had an average game in general, with a few very nice long passes. Coutinho played well, not enough movement with Sterling the only player who really offers a run in behind. Sterling should have scored. I’ve seen the replay of his strikes and it looks like he should have two, possibly three goals. De Gea makes some good saves on them, but Sterling’s finishing was appalling. Balotelli should score a couple as well. It was on his strikes that De Gea made his best saves. He was incredible. I’ve had enough of Balotelli though and I don’t actually think he was that bad overall today. It’s just his little petulant acts or silly challenges that get to me. I’m at the point where now I am actually hoping that he gets banned by the FA because I can’t watch another one of his strikes from three hundred metres away from the goal. I like Markovic. There’s a player in there.
Onto Rodgers: I do not think he’s going to be able to turn this around. He’s a good manager, but I think we have lost too much confidence and I do not think Rodgers is going to be able to recover from this. I am not calling for him to be sacked yet as I think sacking managers in the middle of the season is a bad plan (the best replacements for him in Klopp, Benitez [lol] and De Boer would be unattainable at this point anyway), but I do think, barring some miraculous turnaround, he should walk at the end of the season. One of our greatest ever managers and our best ever player was sacked for less. Do not think the race for top four is over, but it’s going to take a massive turnaround to get there. It has to start with a win against Arsenal. Rodgers needs to stop playing whatever political games he’s playing and get our best players on the pitch and that includes Sakho and Can.
I liked most of the team selection by Rodgers before the match. Obviously would have liked to have seen Sakho in instead of Lovren or Skrtel, Toure in instead of Johnson, Can in instead of Allen and Markovic in for any one of the other attacking options, but it was still a major improvement selection wise from what we have been seeing. Jones wasn’t too bad. Thought his play on the third goal was shocking, but in truth, he did not have much to do besides pick the ball up out the back of his net. I would definitely continue with him in the side. Lacked any command of his box though. From where I was standing I could hear him and there was little communication from him. I don’t think any of our defenders had a good game with the exception of Toure and Henderson. Henderson missed, not an easy chance, but a chance I would expect him to score with that header. Allen (think it was him) was left completely exposed by Moreno who decided to go galavanting off doing God knows what. Thought it was ridiculously harsh to pull Lallana off especially for Balotelli. Markovic should have been the first player to be brought on. Gerrard was not anything special, do not think he was awful either. Just had an average game in general, with a few very nice long passes. Coutinho played well, not enough movement with Sterling the only player who really offers a run in behind. Sterling should have scored. I’ve seen the replay of his strikes and it looks like he should have two, possibly three goals. De Gea makes some good saves on them, but Sterling’s finishing was appalling. Balotelli should score a couple as well. It was on his strikes that De Gea made his best saves. He was incredible. I’ve had enough of Balotelli though and I don’t actually think he was that bad overall today. It’s just his little petulant acts or silly challenges that get to me. I’m at the point where now I am actually hoping that he gets banned by the FA because I can’t watch another one of his strikes from three hundred metres away from the goal. I like Markovic. There’s a player in there.
Onto Rodgers: I do not think he’s going to be able to turn this around. He’s a good manager, but I think we have lost too much confidence and I do not think Rodgers is going to be able to recover from this. I am not calling for him to be sacked yet as I think sacking managers in the middle of the season is a bad plan (the best replacements for him in Klopp, Benitez [lol] and De Boer would be unattainable at this point anyway), but I do think, barring some miraculous turnaround, he should walk at the end of the season. One of our greatest ever managers and our best ever player was sacked for less. Do not think the race for top four is over, but it’s going to take a massive turnaround to get there. It has to start with a win against Arsenal. Rodgers needs to stop playing whatever political games he’s playing and get our best players on the pitch and that includes Sakho and Can.
Sturridge and Coutinho were good tbf. Not much beyond that tho.
Wow surprising. In general you've been pretty positive and supportive towards Rodgers.
Both categorically not his players, nor his choices. He has bought exactly zero good players since taking over.
So fed up of seeing Joe Allen play every bloody game. He's stealing a wage. Fed up of Lovren and Johnson starting too, no idea why Manquillo was dropped and the lack of playing that Can is getting astounds me.
Depressing watch today. I thought United were pretty terrible but we deserved nothing from the game, it's our own fault our defence is still leaky and it's our own fault that we didn't take any of our chances.
Depressing watch today. I thought United were pretty terrible but we deserved nothing from the game, it's our own fault our defence is still leaky and it's our own fault that we didn't take any of our chances.
Tell us what you think barney!
Once again the summer business comes to the forefront.
You can't 'go again' with Balotelli and Lambert in for Suarez. Sure, they had Sturridge, but you have to have a contingency for injuries to your best players - and the two they brought in are levels behind.
I thought their defence struggled more today due to the system. They had no idea what they were doing...but even so they've been as bad as ours most of the season.
Gerrard as a weekly go-to guy is done.
You can't 'go again' with Balotelli and Lambert in for Suarez. Sure, they had Sturridge, but you have to have a contingency for injuries to your best players - and the two they brought in are levels behind.
I thought their defence struggled more today due to the system. They had no idea what they were doing...but even so they've been as bad as ours most of the season.
Gerrard as a weekly go-to guy is done.
Great finishing and mostly good individual performances even if some cohesion and composure is still lacking. I agree it was hardly vintage stuff but only Evans and Wilson had somewhat suspect games. Coutinho made a few nice passes and Sterling was a threat, its not surprising you created chances.
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One sentence: This is a topic about Liverpool.
We have been average and that has been enough to see poor Liverpool off.
Why do you care though, you have enough of your problems as it is.
They'll finish seventh or so, they're absolutely shite.
RVP could have made it four near the end and Rooney would have scored a second had he had smashed it. We weren't terrible, but keep telling yourself that.
You were terrible.
The lack of Can this season is very puzzling.
Yeah, you were the better team. That doesn't mean you were good, if you'd played a reasonably competent side you would have lost today. Fortunate that we aren't competent.
It's because he Can't play.
I think you need to look up the meaning of the world terrible then. You lot have been trying to make yourselves feel better better all season with that rubbish.
What was Liverpool then if we were terrible?
If that makes you feel better, yeah, we were terrible.
Pretty sure telling us that we were terrible is a way for Liverpool fans to feel better about themselves.
This shit is nothing now. In Ferguson's last five years there were still posts made here and on RAWK that we only win due to oppositions lack of quality when the truth was something else.
This shit is nothing now. In Ferguson's last five years there were still posts made here and on RAWK that we only win due to oppositions lack of quality when the truth was something else.
You beat us 3-0, saying you were terrible is hardly going to make me feel any better. I'd hazard a guess that most neutrals agree.
We have been hearing that for 6 games now.
Berahino benched by WBA after contract talks stall. I wouldnt be surprised if Rogers picks him up in January.