Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense

Ole's_toe_poke said:
Great back five.

Didn't even realize that Enrique still played for you.
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Playing is a kind way of describing what he does. He'd actually be great if he had a single brain cell, but well...

dwd said:
Is Toure injured then? If not, absolutely bonkers move by the Brentone.
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Yeah, he's injured. A bit more understandable in that case (I hadn't realised when I posted the line-up, still would have gone with a half fit Sakho over Lovren though).
 
I thought Moreno looked decent enough...He can't be worse than Enrique? Can he?
 
akash02 said:
I thought Moreno looked decent enough...He can't be worse than Enrique? Can he?
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He's made 2 (or was it 3?) errors that lead to us conceding but he's started really well in my view. Not the first player Rodgers has frozen out inexplicably though, doubt it'll be the last.
 
Cina said:
Yep. Mignolet and Lovren are just flat out rubbish.
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:lol:

In all seriousness though, I remember Mignolet being a decent keeper before he went to Liverpool. Seems he either suits playing for smaller clubs who have to deal with attacks better, or was maybe just in superb form. I remember it seeming like a decent signing from Liverpool at the time.
 
Rafateria said:
When was the last United v Liverpool match when we were BOTH playing utter shite ?
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We've won 7 of the last 10, drawing twice and losing just once. We're the form team in the league. So don't dump us in with you're lot.

One bad match (which we still won anyway) doesn't change the fact that we're playing well, especially at home.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
For whatever reason I think we'll win tonight, but damn we're sure making it hard for ourselves with the line-up selected.

Mignolet, Johnson, Skrtel, Lovren, José Enrique, Lucas, Allen, Henderson, Gerrard, Sterling, Lambert

No idea what Rodgers is thinking.
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No striker on the bench either. This after Lambert has played 5 on the trot?
 
Borini's gf has had a little dig on twitter. It does seem strange having no striker option on the bench, yet Markovic is there who has looked like a lost boy so far.
 
dwd said:
Is Toure injured then? If not, absolutely bonkers move by the Brentone.
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I didn't realise he was injured .. but even if he wasn't he shouldn't be playing 3 games week. I'd prefer him in the starting line-up vs. United than playing tonight, so however it's gone down it's worked out to my preference.
 
dwd said:
Is Toure injured then? If not, absolutely bonkers move by the Brentone.
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I didn't realise he was injured .. but even if he wasn't he shouldn't be playing 3 games week. I'd prefer him in the starting line-up vs. United than playing tonight, so however it's gone down it's worked out to my preference.
 
Sam said:
We've won 7 of the last 10, drawing twice and losing just once. We're the form team in the league. So don't dump us in with you're lot.

One bad match (which we still won anyway) doesn't change the fact that we're playing well, especially at home.
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Forget the results and look at the performances. You haven't been playing well regardless of the results. LvG and GN agree on that. Stoke & Southampton can both feel aggrieved for starters.
 
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2294024-brendan-rodgers-expected-too-much-of-dejan-lovren

Article on Lovren by Croatian journalist Aleksandar Holiga.

P.s. I love how Liverpool fans here comforting themselves that both clubs are playing rubbish. Difference is we have one off every once in a while and still win and Liverpool play rubbish most of the time and of course the main difference is points and the league position..
If we win we'll leave them on -10.
But I guess Barney will still say LVG and our team dont worry him.:lol:
 
How long is Kolo out for? Much more confident going into a game against them with Skrtel - Lovren at the back.
 
Rafateria said:
Forget the results and look at the performances. You haven't been playing well regardless of the results. LvG and GN agree on that. Stoke & Southampton can both feel aggrieved for starters.
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We did play good against Stoke just didnt finish them of. Fact they had 2 big chances in the end doesnt mean we didnt play a good game. We have been good vs Hull too and although we didnt have many chances Crystal Palace didnt get a sniff. But keep telling yourself whatever you want to make you feel better.

Yeah Stoke and Soton can feel aggrieved they didnt score their chances and we did. That's football for you..
 
Rafateria said:
Forget the results and look at the performances. You haven't been playing well regardless of the results. LvG and GN agree on that. Stoke & Southampton can both feel aggrieved for starters.
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The only matches we've been bad were last night and Arsenal. All our home matches have been good.

Stoke have no right to be aggrieved at all. We outplayed them all night, missed our chances to kill the match off, then they missed (well technically we saved) a couple of chances they had at the end.
 
Mali_Zeus said:
We did play good against Stoke just didnt finish them of. Fact they had 2 big chances in the end doesnt mean we didnt play a good game. We have been good vs Hull too and although we didnt have many chances Crystal Palace didnt get a sniff. But keep telling yourself whatever you want to make you feel better.
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You can always tell which ABU's have actually watched us, and which ones just real off whatever the media have spun them.
 
Rafateria said:
Forget the results and look at the performances. You haven't been playing well regardless of the results. LvG and GN agree on that. Stoke & Southampton can both feel aggrieved for starters.
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We were fine against Stoke and should have put them away 3 or 4-1.
 
DWelbz19 said:
How long is Kolo out for? Much more confident going into a game against them with Skrtel - Lovren at the back.
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No news on that yet. Only announced he was injured after the line up was announced.
 
Rafateria said:
Forget the results and look at the performances. You haven't been playing well regardless of the results. LvG and GN agree on that. Stoke & Southampton can both feel aggrieved for starters.
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By that logic you should be further behind than current point tally of yours as you lot were no good against QPR or Stoke and just about won. QPR were all gifts, just like Southampton us.
 
Rafateria said:
Forget the results and look at the performances. You haven't been playing well regardless of the results. LvG and GN agree on that. Stoke & Southampton can both feel aggrieved for starters.
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How many times have you watched us then? aside from last night when there was no other football being played.
 
Zoo said:
We were fine against Stoke and should have put them away 3 or 4-1.
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That's the thing with rival fans and especially Liverpool fans commenting on our performances right now. Most of them only likely tuned in near the end of that particular game to see if Stoke would nick a draw and then claim we were shite. It's annoying.
 
Shark said:
That's the thing with rival fans and especially Liverpool fans commenting on our performances right now. Most of them only likely tuned in near the end of that particular game to see if Stoke would nick a draw and then claim we were shite. It's annoying.
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They saw the highlights and concluded we were poor..... Or sthing.
 
Rafateria said:
Forget the results and look at the performances. You haven't been playing well regardless of the results. LvG and GN agree on that. Stoke & Southampton can both feel aggrieved for starters.
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You haven't really watched us, have you? We've been a lot better then you guys. Being 7 points ahead, the table is not telling a lie.
 
You really are all missing the point. You are focused on Liverpool and trying to 'score points'... quelle surprise .. instead of yourselves and actually having a debate on United. You dismiss what your own manager is saying, and the best pundit on TV, because it suits you to ignore them right now. United are not playing well, they have had a couple of good games but have relied on world class performances from De Gea and v.Persie to save your arses on more than a few occasions this season. Injuries are a valid excuse (though how many more points has that actually cost you ?) as is a new manager and integrating new players. But as far as the injuries go .. has that actually cost you more points than Liverpool's loss of Sturridge ?

In answer to the 'how many games have you seen'. Look where I live ... that means I watch a helluva lot of football as one satellite broadcasts virtually every PL match being played. A typical 3 day weekend I watch 4-5 PL matches (EDIT - sorry thinking about it it's more like an ave. of 6) and have seen maybe ca. 75% of United's games this season. That's probably more than half the posters on this site.

Anyway off to watch the match. Good night !
 
Dumbstar said:
I had put a key comparison together and deleted it. But with glee, here was tonight's team:

Forster (played like a worse version of Mignolet)
Fonte (Toure)
Yoshida (Skrtel)
Steven Fcking Davies (Gerrard)
Wanyama (Lucas)
Long (Lallana?)
Mane (Sterling)
Pelle (poor man's Lambert)

The best they had on the pitch were Clyne and Bertrand and they were hardly pulling up trees tonight. Don't be fooled, this was a very poor Southampton team (barring maybe Tadic who couldn't lay on simple through balls in the first half). Yet they totally and literally dominated you. They have a talented side, like you say, but that talented side did not play tonight. And the manager has been found out (Ipswich/Burley ringing any bells?)
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Totally and literally dominated us?

Just a little strong methinks.

I think a lot of teams have a right to be worried that we're putting a fair bit of momentum together now, not playing well.

Imagine if we ever can field the first choice back 4 for even two games in a row!
 
Rafateria said:
You really are all missing the point. You are focused on Liverpool and trying to 'score points'... quelle surprise .. instead of yourselves and actually having a debate on United. You dismiss what your own manager is saying, and the best pundit on TV, because it suits you to ignore them right now. United are not playing well, they have had a couple of good games but have relied on world class performances from De Gea and v.Persie to save your arses on more than a few occasions this season. Injuries are a valid excuse (though how many more points has that actually cost you ?) as is a new manager and integrating new players. But as far as the injuries go .. has that actually cost you more points than Liverpool's loss of Sturridge ?

In answer to the 'how many games have you seen'. Look where I live ... that means I watch a helluva lot of football as one satellite broadcasts virtually every PL match being played. A typical 3 day weekend I watch 4-5 PL matches (EDIT - sorry thinking about it it's more like an ave. of 6) and have seen maybe ca. 75% of United's games this season. That's probably more than half the posters on this site.

Anyway off to watch the match. Good night !
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Touch a nerve. :lol:

Maybe you saw 75 percent of United games but it seems you havent seen Stoke one. :D
 
Rafateria said:
You really are all missing the point. You are focused on Liverpool and trying to 'score points'... quelle surprise .. instead of yourselves and actually having a debate on United. You dismiss what your own manager is saying, and the best pundit on TV, because it suits you to ignore them right now. United are not playing well, they have had a couple of good games but have relied on world class performances from De Gea and v.Persie to save your arses on more than a few occasions this season. Injuries are a valid excuse (though how many more points has that actually cost you ?) as is a new manager and integrating new players. But as far as the injuries go .. has that actually cost you more points than Liverpool's loss of Sturridge ?

In answer to the 'how many games have you seen'. Look where I live ... that means I watch a helluva lot of football as one satellite broadcasts virtually every PL match being played. A typical 3 day weekend I watch 4-5 PL matches (EDIT - sorry thinking about it it's more like an ave. of 6) and have seen maybe ca. 75% of United's games this season. That's probably more than half the posters on this site.

Anyway off to watch the match. Good night !
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So what you are saying is, we've had a shit load of injuries, but somehow coped and managed to get the points anyway. - Yep you're right, but as per the discussion now, it's our performancrs that have suffered not our ability to grind out the required result.

As for Sturridge being out costing you points, well thats your own problem for buying two shit on a stick replacements.

The truth is that our performances and your performances being rated as "not good enough" are done so by a very different yard stick. We've won our last 5 despite being sloppy or not finishing the game off despite the chances we have created and how we controlled the game (Southampton aside where we did the opposite and were clinical with the only chancrs we had). Whereas you have been downright terrible, struggling to string passes together, failing to lead possession in every game and having nothing to offer up front.


Basically we've been putting in 7/10 performances overall but people know we are better than that because we have shown it on lots of occasions and wr have the players for it and so in turn prople are are being overly critical.

You've been putting in 4/10 performances and everyone is being critical because you should be doing better, not because you have shown it or because you have the players but because you had a good year last year, lost one player and then spent £120m on your squad to replace him.


There's a massive difference. If both teams turned up with their A Team's on their A Game it would be about 5-2 to United.
 
Rafateria said:
You really are all missing the point. You are focused on Liverpool and trying to 'score points'... quelle surprise .. instead of yourselves and actually having a debate on United. You dismiss what your own manager is saying, and the best pundit on TV, because it suits you to ignore them right now. United are not playing well, they have had a couple of good games but have relied on world class performances from De Gea and v.Persie to save your arses on more than a few occasions this season. Injuries are a valid excuse (though how many more points has that actually cost you ?) as is a new manager and integrating new players. But as far as the injuries go .. has that actually cost you more points than Liverpool's loss of Sturridge ?

In answer to the 'how many games have you seen'. Look where I live ... that means I watch a helluva lot of football as one satellite broadcasts virtually every PL match being played. A typical 3 day weekend I watch 4-5 PL matches (EDIT - sorry thinking about it it's more like an ave. of 6) and have seen maybe ca. 75% of United's games this season. That's probably more than half the posters on this site.

Anyway off to watch the match. Good night !
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While I agree with the most part of the post, the bolded line is beyond ridiculous. Even now, when the injury situation is better than it was a few weeks ago, we have Rafael, Smalling, Jones and Shaw injured in defense (3 of them are starters), Blind and Di Maria in midfield (with Di Maria arguably being our best player) and Falcao who isn't yet fully fit. If you think that this isn't far worse than having Sturridge injured then... Obviously, we have managed to do quite well with what we have left (being forced to play 3 midfielders in defense) but that is more because of the depth of the squad and the manager.

About how many points, it is hard to know but we could have got much more points in those 3 games at the beginning, game against Leicester and then Chelsea and City games. We had 10 injured players or so in the first three games, and not many less on the three other games I mentioned.
 
Their morale will be on the floor if they get booted out of the European Cup. Fantastic going into Sunday.
 
Rafateria said:
You really are all missing the point. You are focused on Liverpool and trying to 'score points'... quelle surprise .. instead of yourselves and actually having a debate on United. You dismiss what your own manager is saying, and the best pundit on TV, because it suits you to ignore them right now. United are not playing well, they have had a couple of good games but have relied on world class performances from De Gea and v.Persie to save your arses on more than a few occasions this season. Injuries are a valid excuse (though how many more points has that actually cost you ?) as is a new manager and integrating new players. But as far as the injuries go .. has that actually cost you more points than Liverpool's loss of Sturridge ?

In answer to the 'how many games have you seen'. Look where I live ... that means I watch a helluva lot of football as one satellite broadcasts virtually every PL match being played. A typical 3 day weekend I watch 4-5 PL matches (EDIT - sorry thinking about it it's more like an ave. of 6) and have seen maybe ca. 75% of United's games this season. That's probably more than half the posters on this site.

Anyway off to watch the match. Good night !
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And thats where you're wrong. Arsenal and Southampton games apart, we've been generally good since the Leicester debacle. Hence we've won 7 of the 10 since then. We've had an issue with not finishing matches off, and letting the opposition back in at the end, but no one is saying we've been flawless and when that has happened DDG has been there to protect the win. Whats lucky about that? Whats the difference between him putting in great performances, and Costa doing the same for Chelsea? Are they lucky because their striker is playing well? As for RVP's world class performances saving our ass? What the hell are you on about? Up until last night most wanted him dropped.

You're generally talking out of your ass here.
 
Thisistheone said:
Is Rodgers actually playing without a no.9 in a game of this importance!?
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It's weird, took Lambert off and started to cross the ball to Sterling. Liverpool are flat, seem to be running out of ideas.
 
Rodgers will be glowing about this performance.

Courage, incredible, brilliant, world class, commitment and heart. Just some of the words he will use.
 
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