To be fair, a lot of managers will hype up their players to no end. Martin O'Neill was proclaiming Ashley Young as being world class at one point, remember.
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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To be fair, a lot of managers will hype up their players to no end. Martin O'Neill was proclaiming Ashley Young as being world class at one point, remember.
That was like watching two mid-table sides, not watching a top four aspirant playing a team that's been worrying about relegation at home. Liverpool did more of the running as you would expect from the home team but I couldn't say they were the better team overall. I didnt watch it, but I can imagine that watching Hull vs West Brom today would have had no worse football on show.
Its going to take a truly remarkable turnaround by them to make top 4 this year. Sure, we're still developing. And as we saw today Arsenal have the same old failings. And yes the gap is not that large yet.
But Liverpool just looked totally ordinary today, as they have in almost all their games this season. If you didnt know about last season and were asked to judge, based on the performances so far this season, whether they were likely to finish in the top 4 or not, could you possibly say yes?
Its going to take a truly remarkable turnaround by them to make top 4 this year. Sure, we're still developing. And as we saw today Arsenal have the same old failings. And yes the gap is not that large yet.
But Liverpool just looked totally ordinary today, as they have in almost all their games this season. If you didnt know about last season and were asked to judge, based on the performances so far this season, whether they were likely to finish in the top 4 or not, could you possibly say yes?
So is Super Mario banned for 3 games?
I do indeed, it was after Young scored two late goals against someone. The hype levels around Sterling did reach ridiculous proportions though, after their pre-season.
We all knew losing Suarez would weaken them, but i don't think anyone could imagine it would get THIS bad 
Tbf, they have been unlucky to have Porridge sidelined for so long, but they are hilariously toothless upfront this year
Tbf, they have been unlucky to have Porridge sidelined for so long, but they are hilariously toothless upfront this year
Don't forget they then have Burnley in a 6 point relegation battle. Love it.
We all knew losing Suarez would weaken them, but i don't think anyone could imagine it would get THIS bad
Tbf, they have been unlucky to have Porridge sidelined for so long, but they are hilariously toothless upfront this year
We have been more unlucky with our injury crisis, if they had Dan and we had a normal injury situation then they might be challenging for top four at best, we would be challenging for the title.
Unlucky with injuries? They've had ONE player out. You've got to be able to handle that.
as pony as they've been this season, we're only 4 points ahead.
Hopefully we can make that 7 on Monday and then see them off next sunday,
Hopefully we can make that 7 on Monday and then see them off next sunday,
Has until the 15th to answer the charge I think. The minimum penalty for what he's been charged with is 5 games I believe because the FA have stated it's racially aggravated.
they had 3 big players last year.
one's sold
one's injured
one's tired
one's sold
one's injured
one's tired
True, although it ultimately happens for every single British talent that's half decent. I don't think the ridiculous levels of hype should detract from Sterling being a superb prospect who's already done well for himself.
Can't see him not getting a long ban. What he did was ridiculous. These idiot footballers on their social media, it beggars belief.
It's just typical however of how OTT people get about players, especially British ones. He has done well for himself, but it's still funny see him struggle given how smug the resident scousers were on here last season.
Rivals for top 4, they said.
They could survive without Suarez, they said.
Rodgers was a top manager, they said.
Liverpool are shit, everybody else said.
They could survive without Suarez, they said.
Rodgers was a top manager, they said.
Liverpool are shit, everybody else said.
We were 4 points behind them when the transfer window closed. If you look at it this way, since then we've accumulated 8 more points then them in one less game.
Louis van Gaal will struggle, their manager said, they repeated.
1) Hello he's 20 in 21 hours!!!!
2) He hasn't anymore Suarez and Sturridge in the attack.....now Balotelli and Lambert.
Suarez and Sturridge are clever and fast players therefore he could play great passes to them and they would make also runs for him so he had the space.
Sterling will look poor unless at least Sturridge is back in the team.......what should a massive talent like him do with so poor players infront of him and Liverpool's game this season doesn't suit him either.
That's why our next matches against Southampton and Liverpool is now as massive opportunity to get away very far from Liverpool. 6 points from this matches and we're 10 points away from Liverpool.
For me that would already confirm a top 4 place for us for this season!!!
The only highlight of the game for Liverpool was that pass by Gerrard.
So did all the Liverpool fans here.
And it's quite amusing how bad they are now. 1 shot on target? We weren't half as bad as that last season
Lots on RAWK are saying the problem was not selling Borini last year. Because he stayed and they didn't get the money for him, they bought a £16M striker (Balotelli) instead of a £25-30M striker to replace Suarez. This is now the reason they are not playing him so he gets the message and wants to leave. I suppose it's also to ensure he doesn't get injured.
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To be fair, Sterling is still the best young player in the premier league IMO.
On potential perhaps but hes been anything but this season
quick Q...is Gerrard worth a punt for UEFA CL fantasy vs Basel?
It was around this time last year Suarez was having his own personal goal of the month competition. They were putting sides to the sword, especially at Anfield.
Now they're playing the weaker sides at home and barely mustering a shot on target. Aston Villa, Hull and Sunderland all taking points there. They're also a shambles at the back. £20m Lovren dropped for Kolo. £25m man Lallana still struggles to play 90 minutes (why?) and the Gerrard problem isn't going away.
Going to be a long, long season for Rodgers.
Now they're playing the weaker sides at home and barely mustering a shot on target. Aston Villa, Hull and Sunderland all taking points there. They're also a shambles at the back. £20m Lovren dropped for Kolo. £25m man Lallana still struggles to play 90 minutes (why?) and the Gerrard problem isn't going away.
Going to be a long, long season for Rodgers.
Bringing Gerrard as a sub made them better yesterday but ultimately it was pointless.
There is no surprise that they look less than convincing going forward though. They've been leaking goals all season, and it seems as though Rodgers has finally done something about it. They've conceded once in their last three games now, and they've "finally" started to pick up some points again. It's just what Ferguson did after a poor defensive spell. We made sure we were safe and solid at the back, played boring-as-hell football and picked up a few scrappy points. They simply dont have a match winner to rely on to get all three points of their games anymore, though it's a perfectly reasonable approach.
I hope they start going all out attack again though, cant have them creeping up on us in the next few weeks.
I hope they start going all out attack again though, cant have them creeping up on us in the next few weeks.
Hes relying on a 36 year old in Toure and Skrtel to shore up their defence while the likes of Lovren sits on the bench. Needless to say when SAF did it he tried to use the likes of Evans/Jones/Smalling with Vidic (Rio was out if its the spell after the 1-6 defeat to City you're talking about) to give them experience to build from. Rogers has gone for a short term fix to try stop leaking goals, sure its working now but I don't think Toure can play every week
he's basically been their only good player this season and was carrying them at times, he definitely is.
I agree, Ferguson had the goals in the team so when he hit that button for beast mode we were able to win the game in those 10 minutes. Rodgers tried something similar yesterday when Liverpool started their insane pressing and continuously won the ball back from Sunderland and hit them on a lightning counter attack only to not create the chance since their attacking outlet was Lambert who just wanted a cross.
He's playing well but the team isn't so make of that what you will !
I didn't think he had a good game yesterday .. that said he still made 8 completed dribbles. His problem is whereas last season he had Suarez and Sturridge ahead of him now he has Lambert or no-one. He's trying to take on too much IMHO.
Granted I've only watched a handful of Liverpool games this season but I've thought outside a few good runs and flicks he hasn't been all that - reminds me a little of Welbeck in terms to not doing much but putting himself about to the point where people think hes had a good game.
Just my opinion though, hes a talent but has really nose dived this season compared to last
I don't think that's true at all. See my reply to Cina above - #7311
I take it you meant the one straight to the Sunderland player? Classic Stevie Me rolling back the years
No he didn't. Glad you were paying attention .. not.I take it you meant the one straight to the Sunderland player? Classic Stevie Me rolling back the years
That first time raking ball to henderson (I think) was good too, obviously I prefered the conceding of possession though.
It was pretty damn good. They did seem buoyed by Gerrard's sub and started getting more into the game. They were struggling to create chances till then. The one thing I'm impressed with the older Gerrard is his passing ability.
He was a good passer in his earlier days albeit being a bit hit and miss but he seems to have refined his passing technique a wee bit in the past few years. Good thing that they don't exactly have the right set-up or a great midfield (even Henderson is off form now) to utilize Gerrard's passing ability. Instead they overly rely on him and expect him to shield their defense.
You haven't been paying attention .. his passing was this good last season too, when he did have the right set-up. I don't see BR moving him back into DM now - the difference with him and Lucas in that position is night/day. 1 goal conceded in 3 games. Now just got to fix the front line, Sturridge back will make a huge difference and it's a near certainty that we'll be in for another striker in January. Lots of talk Poyet still wants Borini and Jackson Martinez's agent is saying we've approached Porto. Who knows the truth.