Good man Barney
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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Good man Barney
Balo was a clear punt. Since I rate his talent (always have since his Inter days), I think it was a fair one as well. It does not look like it will work out so you can call it a bad transfer now I guess.
Indeed. I think if our choice ended up as Balotelli or nothing as it seemed to be then we made the right choice, regardless of how well he's done. My issue is that I find it ridiculous that we knew Suárez was going to leave and failed to have replacements lined up. Alexis would have been a brilliant replacement but where was the back-up option in case we didn't land him?
Yea would be a great season given our stsrt and what went before but I reckon we would hold the DVD.
Totally agree with your second sentence. Balotelli can't have been the right choice (simply because he was obviously completely different to the type of player we actually needed) when we left players like Doumbia (sp.), Firmino, Lacazette (sp.), Shaqiri etc. etc. on the shelf. I know they are not all strikers but any one of them would have strengthened our current attack and all can be played as strikers or as #10. I'd love to know how the committee (who I assume were responsible for Balo since BR had categorically denied he was even an option) came to the conclusion he was the right remaining option. It defies logic.
Ballotelli was about the only game in town, he at least had the potential to be a success.
So did I at one point mate, talent is utterly useless if its not utilised.
The committee?
Firmino was the one player I was really scared Liverpool would snatch up. Has Liverpool printed on him style-wise with that gung-ho Hoffenheim. He'd be like a more mature and developed Sterling, also capable as a striker or winger on either side for tactical flexibility.
The transfer committee. BR is not given all the power or decision making with regards to transfers. There is a lot of speculation that it was 'the committee', and not Rodgers, who panicked and bought Balo.
Absolutely agree. Great scoring and assist record. Powerful player.
Have you not heard of this before? It's the dippers method for trying to say that their genius of a manager isn't responsible for their transfer business, despite him publically declaring otherwise.
Yea. One person can't be responsible for unearthing the amount of shite they managed in the summer, it would take a committee to organise that cock up.
It's a joint effort. Rodgers was not to be trusted after the Dalglish debacle and good thing too as Brendan's first sole signings were Allen, Borini, etc. He turned down Sturridge until the committee forced him on us.
No one is saying Rodgers is good in the transfer market. In fact the committee have outperformed him. However last summer's debacle was mostly down to the committee and heads have rolled apparently.
Either Tony Barrett or Rory Smith (can't remember which) commented on our transfer committee this week on a podcast. He said all clubs have them or something like them, but the mistake we made was naming ours. I'd tend to agree with that
Nah. It's usually fairly obvious which signings were pushed by Rodgers and which ones weren't. Sturridge was definitely a committee signing for instance (which shows that the above is not true). Conversely, most of last summer's (2013) business was apparently committee driven.
Nah. It's usually fairly obvious which signings were pushed by Rodgers and which ones weren't. Sturridge was definitely a committee signing for instance (which shows that the above is not true). Conversely, most of last summer's (2013) business was apparently committee driven.
Balotelli is injured apparently. Just as Sturridge is getting back too, ffs.
Interesting to see what effect Sturridge has on this team. No doubting his quality but his absence has been overstated this season.
Great news for you.
Ah, so he'll shortly become world class then
Hardly ! You want to compare Balo to Studge ?!
I don't understand, in the summer certain Liverpool fans on here were praising Brentan Rodgers for his skills in the market, not once did I see them talk of this committee that supposedly forces players on him but now it's becoming apparent major errors were made Rodgers seems to have been a puppet for these invisible illuminati people that really run the show.
The dipperittee; It's right up there with dippernomics
Oh RLY
Of course you've links to back this up right ?
Links to what?
The committee being mostly in control of last summers transfer dealing and the fact that "heads have rolled" quite a serious claim really so it should at least have substance.
I think too much is made of the Sturridge signing. I don't think it was any sort of genius where someone sees something nobody else could. It was a punt in the same vein as Balotelli. A talented player with supposed potential that needed unlocking. It just happened to work with Sturridge and you reaped the benefits.
I can actually fully understand why Rodgers had reservations as he was quite selfish at City and Chelsea, played with his head down and his decision making was poor. It didn't help that he rarely got a central role and usually had to peel off wide and away from goal when his talents clearly lie within the area where his decision making has much better percentages.
Do you seriously think it was possible? Alan Curbishely mentioned something similar on football today the other day, "Liverpool should have bought 3-4 top quality players for the amount they spend on 7-8 squad players". Who are these £35m-£40m players who would have joined 'Pool?
Most fans/commentators/journalists are struck in this mythical world where Liverpool is still a top club, which can attract any player in the world. The reality is far away from that. Due to years of mis-mangement and mediocrity neither do they have the stature anymore, nor the finances to complete for those top players. Even if they somehow manage to buy those players, would they the resources to pay them £150k-£200k per week? The answer I guess would be 'no'.
Liverpool and Spurs are in the same boat. Arsenal, City, Chelsea and United are presently far ahead of them. The only hope these club have is that by some consistent good management and with a whole lot of luck they can post a title challenge every once in a while. Otherwise they are struck in this perpetual fight for a top 4 finish. Unless a sugar daddy buys them and is ready to make some serious investment.
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I would totally agree with your post. Maybe, Liverpool are a level above Spurs and 2 levels below Arsenal. Chelsea, City and United are above Arsenal at the moment. Ozil and Sanchez chose to go to Arsenal as I think neither of those 3 clubs went for them.
A sugar daddy at the moment buying a club and investing money massively is out of the question due to FFP. Liverpool are anyways already in the negative with FFP. Even if Liverpool and Rodgers were to be given 100mn more to spend, I bet they will waste it again on 5-6 ordinary players.
I've seen this mentioned a few times, how deeply in the red are they?
Under Uefa rules, clubs competing in Europe must limit their losses to £35.4m over two seasons.
Liverpool’s accounts showed a loss of £49.8m in 2012/13 and £41m for the 10 months prior to that.
So they're fecked then which will be a bit of a surprise as they've been huge advocates of FFP in the past.
This is a very funny situation. Their fans were one of the happiest to see the emergence of the stinking rich oil money clubs Chelsea and City, simply because it made us less likely to win trophies. The resulting transfer market inflation has hurt them a lot more than it has hurt us.
Now if that wasn't enough, the FFP regulations to limit the oil clubs powers also seem to be hurting Liverpool more than us.
The phrase "be careful what you wish for" comes to mind.You would think their NET spending powers would have helped keep their heads above water, but alas not, no wonder the rat left the ship last summer.
You enjoy trying to cause problems don't you? (This might be slightly ironic coming from me.)
Who really cares/why does it matter?
feckers will rob anything.
What that doesn't take into account is all the expenditure that can be allocated to the gross loss for UEFA rules purposes. Spending on stadiums, youth, etc. etc.
Sorry to disappoint KM.
There's no ban on other fans singing it. If it's their song let them sing it. It's a free country.