Well the predictions were for a lot worse. For a side that would be considered much weaker than Madrid they've held possession well for periods but haven't picked decent plays in the last third. Toure is doing grand at the back and bar a rush of blood from Manquillo it could be 0-0.
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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dwd. Never seen you before in this thread .. wonder what brought you out.
Toure was completely at fault for the goal. Ball watched.
I think Marković has been poor. Really, really poor. He's playing like he's scared.
I just found it funny you bragging about being only 1-0 down. Fair play to you lot though.
Not for me. The initial problem was manquillo leaving a huge hole at right back for Marcelo to get in and when that happens you're on the back foot. Skrtel can't get across to cover and while Toure lets his man go he was never going to outpace Benzema to get to that ball first and even if he does there is no guarantee he gets it up and over the bar. Manquillo doesn't leave the back 4 line then Marcelo never gets behind the back 4 for me.
You'd almost swear there was a game of football on or something.
From the performances I've seen of him so far this season this is his best. You're right he has been poor but this is still his best performance.
He was better at City.
i would respond but after years of trying to work my up to posting in this thread i'm going to save all my best words and post them in other threads in the hope that maybe they'll get into this thread again next year.
Was convinced you'd be the laughing stock of Europe tonight but Arsenal have really outdone you, despite getting a point.
A draw away at Ludo followed by a win at home to Basel would see us through to the Last 16 (assuming Basel lose to RM).
I have never seen a thread suffer such a boom bust cycle in such a short period of time. 
Gerrard and Sterling coming on showed exactly what would have happened if they started. We would have got trounced, both giving away more possession in 15 minutes than the rest of our team did in 70 minutes. The game slowed right down and everyone just looked for Gerrard or Sterling to pass to instead of playing like a team. Rodger's 'brand' of football (or as LvG would call it, philosophy) only shines through when Gerrard mainly isn't playing.
Gerrard and Sterling coming on showed exactly what would have happened if they started. We would have got trounced, both giving away more possession in 15 minutes than the rest of our team did in 70 minutes. The game slowed right down and everyone just looked for Gerrard or Sterling to pass to instead of playing like a team. Rodger's 'brand' of football (or as LvG would call it, philosophy) only shines through when Gerrard mainly isn't playing.
I'm astonished that you'd feel the need to gloat this evening when you lost, never really gave the impression the result could've been anything else, and are now in a very difficult situation to qualify.
Difficult situation? Read Rafa's post just above mine. This was always going to be the case.
We played Real at Anfield and Bernabeu without Suarez and Sturridge. Thrashed first game, heads held high second. Might be in Europa after but we're tasting CL for however long/short it lasts.
Ps. this is what it feels like playing with 10 men. Its great, I could get used to it.
We played Real at Anfield and Bernabeu without Suarez and Sturridge. Thrashed first game, heads held high second. Might be in Europa after but we're tasting CL for however long/short it lasts.
Ps. this is what it feels like playing with 10 men.
Its great, I could get used to it.Not sure about the last line. Winning the next 2 will be tough, especially with our current form, but it's manageable.
Agree otherwise. Not sure why so many Liverpool fans are acting like we outplayed Real Madrid. We were better defensively than normal but still outclassed and comfortably beaten by a side who coasted it.
We're on page 161 since the Madrid game ended. Everyone's predictions about our white towel attitude (thank you legend Gary Linekar) were baseless and upsettingly for them, fruitless.
Had we lost 4-0 or more as should have been the case the page number would have read 261 and counting.
Well yeah, we weren't turned over and everyone (me included) were wrong about the scoreline.
Bit small time to start praising a 1-0 loss though, no? There's positives to take but a loss is a loss.
Just quote the praising which you've seen on here and we'll discuss it.
The scoreline was only 1 because of Madrids utter wastefulness, not because of any brilliance on Liverpool's part. They pissed attack after attack up the wall.
26 shots, from the likes of Ronaldo, Benzema, Isco, Bale etc and only 1 goal? Thats shocking.
26 shots, from the likes of Ronaldo, Benzema, Isco, Bale etc and only 1 goal? Thats shocking.
Dunno about here. Talking about Twitter mainly, so mostly idiots I suppose, but you'd think we won if you listened to some.
Agreed, but there are idiots everywhere in the world. Probably the same idiots who go to Anfield and sit there like its a library.
Oh I didn't mean 'impossible', but unless I'm mistaken, the Basel game will be decisive (unless they beat Madrid (who are more or less assured to finish first anyway, right?), and Basel are far from pushovers. It's not in the realm of the impossible, of course, but winning today would've kept Real on their toes a bit more in their next game against Basel.
We're quite good at scraping through groups. Hopefully Sturridge is fit for those games.
Can see Ludogorets being a bigger stumbling block, just because it's the away game.
I hope they come 3rd in the group and drop into the Europa that will test their expensive but shocking squad.
They were better than I expected. Probably should have been more though. Thought Can looked decent in the first half and despite the goal I thought Toure was decent. I'd start him against Chelsea because he can actually defend.
Yup, away games in Europe are rarely easy. But I wouldn't be surprised to see you lose or draw either at the moment. Still time to turn it around though.
I'd say the goal was Can and Allen's fault, primarily. They fecking stood next to each other on the right-center side of the field and nobody was on the center-left seconds later when Isco received the ball and played a simple ball to Marcelo, who hit a fantastic cross. Toure might well have scored an own goal had he touched it first. Great cross and maybe a split-second failure by Toure, but the entire attack was launched by Can and Allen acting like Fellaini and Anderson on valium.
Lucas should have had them murdered, honestly.
Ah there it is, the biased United fan's viewpoint, knew there would be one at least. Naturally it all comes down to RM's wastefulness rather than any defensive fortitude by LFC. The fact RM had only maybe 2 golden opportunities to score all match (one of which was the goal) shows how well the defence as a whole played (and half of those RM efforts were pot-shots from outside the box). However deny them credit if it makes you feel better. I thought Ming, Toure (bar the goal) and Skrtel (bar one tackle on Ronaldo) were outstanding. At the other end Varane was simply brilliant. A night for CBs to shine. Marcelo close to MotM too for me.
Interesting, I'll have to watch it again. Personally I thought Manquillo - who was AWOL for Marcello's cross - was at least as guilty as Toure but still there is no denying that had Toure back-tracked another 2 yds he would have cut out that cross (though may as you say, have a tough time keeping it out of the net - it was a fantastic cross).
Hardworking performance, bit disappointed we created next to feck all though. Two massive games now vs Basel and Ludogorets.
Wouldn't be surprised if Madrid won the CL again.
He played about 15 mins at City? and played one pass to Moreno which was good. Other than that I can't recall anything of note that he did.
Wouldn't be surprised if Madrid won the CL again.
He played about 15 mins at City? and played one pass to Moreno which was good. Other than that I can't recall anything of note that he did.
RM have won 26 of their last 30 matches at home (last season and this), won their last 12 matches in all competitions on the bounce, are the current European Champions and considered the best team i the world at present, and beat LFC 3-0 at Anfield just 2 weeks ago ... were there any realistic expectations, even with whatever people consider to be our 'best lineup' for even a point ? Pretty much everyone expects/expected RM to win 6/6 in this group. As I said earlier above, at least this is now in our own hands, draw at Ludo and beat Basel (it will be tough as it will virtually be a knock-out match but we should win at Anfield) and we qualify (bar Basel beating RM, in which case we need 2 wins and to beat Basel by 2 goals).
Yeah. Can and Allen have a chat while Kroos or someone plays a simple ball to Isco in that pocket of space a tucked in left-winger (think Nasri or Iniesta most of the time) can just sit in if supply isn't cut off, since the RCB or RB can't really go get him and leave huge chunks of space for Ronaldo and Benzema and Marcelo behind.
Manquillo runs toward Ronaldo. He does leave space behind him, but if he doesn't push up he might end up 2 vs 1 with Ronaldo carrying the ball at him anyways.
The real mistake is early. You have to limit Madrid attacks, not just hope to keep them out at the last minute. It's like when Vidic made all those brilliant tackles against Barca in the CL final. Great for a bit, but not long-term sustainable and more of a bonus than a framework. You can get a game like that from defenders occasionally, but to consistently beat CL contenders it's less about flying, last ditch tackles in the 6 yard box and more boring, Quieroz-ian, positionally solid zonal coverage of the midfield.
So Liverpool supporters, did you defend better as a back four (i.e. no Lovren/Johnson)? OR was it because there was no Gerrard in the screening midfield role?
Full credit to mignolet and Liverpools defence of course, but you can't deny that madrid simply never really tried too hard because they just didn't need too. It was essentially a training match in the second half because liverpool showed no effort going forward. They did well, but madrid had 27 shots I think? Hit the bar as well. They defended well enough, but madrid still created loads of chances and could have been out of sight on another day.
There were a few stand out performances individual wise for liverpool, but I'd still say the overall team performance was bad because there was just no thought to even go forward and grab a goal, even when they were losing.
Firstly, as the best team in the world Real were the better team. They had the better players, they were at home and they score 3/4 goals every game right now.
Just surprises me that they choose a high-profile match against another CL side to not really try that hard. To approach it like a training ground. To not give 100%. Why Liverpool? Whether they're playing Barca or a lowly La Liga side they appear to revel in the goal-fest. They don't appear to hold back. They score in bundles. They slaughter teams. It's relentless. But when they play Liverpool they ignore that scoring intent because "madrid simply never really tried too hard".
You do know that such a skewed analysis could only come from a close rival? It's blinkered hogwash. Real are not a half-measure side. While a defeat is still a defeat, Liverpool accomplished themselves particularly well last night and a significant part of that was down to Liverpool's compact play and control on the ball.
No, it's because once they took the lead in the 27th minute, the game was basically done. Liverpool had no intent of going forward to get a goal, and that's why it was basically a training game. You don't see teams park the bus despite losing. You don't see that anywhere. It's like they're sole intention was damage limitation before the match started. Fair enough, they kept the score down. The onus wasn't on madrid to keep breaking them down and go 100% as they already had the win in the bag. Had liverpool gone forward in search of a goal, it probably would have been worse for them as that's what madrid revel in and when they really rack up the goals. When a team is chasing a goal and they team on them relentlessly. There is always the chance to get a goal though and that's why I thought it was just coward tactics from liverpool.
Would you like it if United parked the bus despite being behind? You ultimately still lost the game.
Fair play? Why should we be congratulating them for losing 1-0 to Madrid? They are a pathetic team with a third division mindset in a CL game HAHA
To be fair we parked the bus against Bayern last season and were surprised/pleased that we didn't get completely wiped off the face of the earth. I'm sure some were pleased with our performance in those matches too. Similar to Liverpool last night I think.