You've outgrown Redcafe, Moses.
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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You've outgrown Redcafe, Moses.
That's not as glaringly wrong as most of your posts al.
Your issue is that you just can't embrace opinion.
IMO, Sterling should be the one Pool fans worry about holding onto. Boy is gonna be a star if he keeps up his development. Thought he outshone Coutinho at #10 when he played there latter part of the season.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he addressed the weak defence by spending 15m on Sakho and a big contract for Toure?
Again showing how poor he is in the market. He knew he needed to fix the back line, spent money on garbage and had to play Kevin Keegan tactics.
No. My issue is I can't embrace idiots, I love opinion.
No. Your issue is that you define 'idiot' by people who don't share yours. And then you proceed to go down the path of insulting them, and trying to wind them up so they retaliate, at which point you can justify banning them.
You must be gutted I never bite.
Sakho is a very good player. Toure came in and fulfilled his role as 4th choice. Excusing a couple of comedy moments, he was very good.
That's all a bit simplistic al, as usual. There are people who share your views without being idiots.
I'm gutted you keep quoting me.
Also, can't see Sturridge going to City, Chelsea or United. So unless he leaves abroad, that leaves only Arsenal as a potential suitor.
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Back at ya. Thread banned for a week. Abuse of power? Yes.
I thought that after getting into the Champions League they would go for a higher tier of players but instead they go back to Bony, Lambert and Lallana? What's up with that? Didn't they learn their lesson from Downing and Carroll? I thought Rodgers was all about passing and movement and not having big target man to chest down the ball up front.
Extremely odd. There are players like Firmino, Moura, Draxler and Sanchez available and they choose the likes of Lallana, Bony and Lambert. Best idea for them would have been to keep Suarez until they had actually signed two replacements and then they should have let him sign the dotted line.
I think we'll see a few changes in the way Liverpool set up this year. More of a shift to what Rodgers had originally planned. Having Sturridge & Suarez in the squad (a fortunate circumstance) meant that both had to start - we did very well to accommodate them but I can't see two at the top being what Rodgers prefers over the long term.
If asked to play a particular style brand of football, we have a very capable defence, personnel wise. Skrtel or Agger would look fantastic playing for certain sides.
He was an important cog - just as Sturridge/Coutinho/Henderson/Sterling etc were. Of course, he was the 'star' and the most efficient over the course of the season. But the important thing was that we didn't rely on him performing - if he didn't score/had a bad game, we were still very capable. His contribution was substantial, but I believe it will be replaced to a sufficient extent. We were far from a one man team.
If asked to play a particular style brand of football, we have a very capable defence, personnel wise. Skrtel or Agger would look fantastic playing for certain sides.
He was an important cog - just as Sturridge/Coutinho/Henderson/Sterling etc were. Of course, he was the 'star' and the most efficient over the course of the season. But the important thing was that we didn't rely on him performing - if he didn't score/had a bad game, we were still very capable. His contribution was substantial, but I believe it will be replaced to a sufficient extent. We were far from a one man team.
Er, we did want Sanchez. Draxler and Moura have both stalled big time. What difference did it make when we sold Suarez?
Not sure you can overly criticise Liverpool. It's an obviously huge task to lose Suarez and still improve the first XI; the other signings all improve the squad, which needed to be improved.
Your team was heavily built around Suarez and he was your only world class player and big name. With him gone it is difficult to know how the team will perform the next season and it would make the world-class players you want to sign very skeptical until they have seen Liverpool get through this period with a sustained level. It is always an interesting question without a clear answer, some players are replaced surprisingly easily and others can prove to be near impossible to replace.
If you had done your transfers before selling Suarez you would have been able to live on the last season which was extremely successful and it'd have been easier to attract other star names. If you were a super star capable of choosing almost any club in the world, would you really have Liverpool far up there considering who they sold and who they bought so far? They looked like a team in an upwards form who already finished second with plenty of rather weak individuals in the squad who could be improved but now they look more like a one season wonder who couldn't hold on to their primary star and has replaced him with mediocre quality.
I would have preferred joining a Liverpool with Suarez much rather than the current one without Suarez.
Spot on mate - 5th or 6th for me next season
Players joining us aren't idiots. They'll all have known that Suarez was off. Do you really think that the players that were joining Spurs last summer thought Bale was staying for instance?
No chance.
Good.
The Echo are saying Markovic and Origi both should be done this week and that Rodgers is considering a move for Remy and Bony, both of who have release clauses. They're also saying Davies is a back up for Moreno.
Owen played most of his Liverpool career under Gerard Houllier. Not the most attack minded of managers, & one who'd try & hold on to a lead by often bringing off an attacker for a defensive midfielder. He'd have certainly upped his goalscoring average under Rodgers, with, or without, Suarez.
I used Michael Owen as an example, not as a comparison. Of course he was world class, that's not even up for debate. But the fact remains, that playing under a different manager at Liverpool, he never once managed to break the 20 leagues a season mark. Daniel Sturridge (an inferior player to Owen) did it in his first full season under Brendan Rodgers. Does this not say something about the manager maybe having a bit more influence than he's being given credit for on the rising fortunes of Liverpool Football Club & the subsequent performances of Luis Suarez ?
How many of the goals actually cost us points though ?
I'm sure if you went through every other club in The Premiership you'd find that their defensive errors had more of an impact on their respective points total than ours.
& didn't United concede something like 45 goals when they won the league in 2000 ?
Lazy argument.
Wonder if there will be a late twist with Markovic. Not that Chelsea need him...but isnt there some arrangement where they can have him for £15m. Surprised they havent taken this , loan him and sell at a profit next season
That's not the point. It's not about costing you the title. It's about the fact that you know you have a shite defence and because of this you have to play attacking football to counter this weakness.
Even though he spent money and got in two defenders the defence is still weak.
So I ask again. If you know your defence is weak, why not address it?
Take into consideration the point was made that he isn't very good in the market and when he did buy a defender he was not entirely convincing, much like his other signings.
Not for me.
Three goals more than Owen ever scored in a season because Sturridge was playing in the most attacking team Liverpool have put out in years (which according to many of your fans wasn't by choice but rather because your defence was so weak) cannot surely be a bechmark for success.
Yes Rodgers is doing well, compared to the nonsense Kenny served up. If he manages to do the same next season then he's onto something.
No, Rodgers is doing well regardless of such a comparison. He's not simply doing well compared to the previous regime. He's come off the back of a season where a league title was a possibility right up to the last game. There was 18 other managers who didn't manage that. Add that to the fact that he has advanced his players considerably.
I would be shocked if there was.
They do have first refusal and/or some sort of stake in the player according to some media
This will be the year to find out the truth about Mr Rogers he's got a wedge of cash but no Suarez. He fiddled about with his philosophy for half a season then binned it as the successful counter punch style with Sturridge evolved. Given his zealous preachings about tika taka prior the question must be was it accident or design?
Those ITK claim Suarez was gone before the WC malarky so if the contingency plan ends up being Southampton players there's a good chance Mr Rogers hasn't grasped the size of the problem. To date the spectre of Spurs looms large.
The Spurs comparison is arguably false and simplistic.
Their management structure is a joke and too unstable for sustained success.
After selling Bale it appears AVB didn't pick his transfers which instantly causes problems. They were a team of strangers without a clear identity and a manager insecure in his job. This is not comparable to the current Liverpool structure which appears more stable.
Added to that, Rodgers is a safer bet than AVB which is key. With Bale, Spurs finished the 12/13 season in 5th. It was evidently a team that relied on one man to beat teams at tight moments in games. That doesn't reflect last season's Liverpool team with Suarez. He was obviously the main man but Liverpool scored 102 goals and finished 2nd. A much better season to Spurs in 12/13. My point is that Liverpool appear a better equipped team than the Spurs team that lost Bale.
Also, it appears we are having this discussion before a penny of the Suarez money has been spent which kind of renders the Spurs comparisons redundant...for now at least.
Liverpool are nailed-on for 5th. I can't imagine that opposition teams will be so naive this year, and with Suarez gone they've lost some major attacking impetus.
Very true.
The only points I would make regarding Rogers is reading RAWK the raised expectations of last year has produced this "go again" sword of Damacles above him. I'm really not sure he's any safer than anyone else if xmas turns up and things aren't peachy.
Didn't they sign Lallana?
They did indeed but that doesn't relate to my point.