Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense

So many arrogant posters in here, we are in no position to laugh at Liverpool right now tbh, they have already lost 4 games and are still ahead of us in the table, if we don't get a result tomorrow that will continue.

I'll laugh at Liverpool when and if we go at least 6/7 points clear of them in the table.

Hmmm not sure I agree with that. Liverpool fans have been constantly poking United with a stick since last season. They are still trying to now despite our clear improvement and their regression.

I don't think it is unfair for United fans to be a bit smug with themselves given how their season is going so far. I don't even think they will get our of their CL group.
 
Hmmm not sure I agree with that. Liverpool fans have been constantly poking United with a stick since last season. They are still trying to now despite our clear improvement and their regression.

I don't think it is unfair for United fans to be a bit smug with themselves given how their season is going so far. I don't even think they will get our of their CL group.
Hopefully they finish 3rd in their group.

You're spot on by the way. Nothing wrong in enjoying their regression.
 
Yet they have two center halves worth almost 40 million :lol:

This is the problem currently in world football and it effects United greatly when it comes to recruitment.

Everyone has been harping on about needing a world class centre half and moaning at van Gaal for not getting one. Well the truth is a number of teams needed a centre half this summer (Liverpool, Barca, United etc) and no one was able to get a really top one bar Bayern who ended up with Benatia.

If truth be told there aren't any available right now hence why we ended up with potential in Rojo. Liverpool went down the Lovren route for big money and so far it hasn't paid off. Barca got Vermaelen.
 
As I said before, the worst thing about this Liverpool side is that every game looks like a possible defeat. You genuinely can see them losing to anyone in the league. Even the QPR win was a fluke.

Compare it to last year when they were smashing sides 4 or 5 nil.
 
Normality is restored.

The Boom is reached off season when Liverpool suddenly have the best players in the world in every position. This is fuelled by the fact that no football is actually played on the pitch.


I don't understand the negativity around Lallana. I thought he was excellent last season, scored nine goals so you would figure he would score & create more for us?


Markovic what I have seen looks a real talent, can play a few positions and adds some flair to our attack.

Lambert, quality proven player in our league, point to prove, for the price I don't see a problem.

Can, confess I hadn't seen much of him but we lack a physical presence in the middle, and he is German!

Lovren if he signs I thought was one of the best centre halves in the league last season.


Remember it wasn't the starting XI that was our problem, it was the bench, options to make changes. With the new players and the likes of Ibe & Suso back we will as a squad be a lot stronger.
Some of the other teams has better squads than us last season and we still finished above them. Trust in the manager I say.

The football starts and for a while the bullishness remains but this slowly starts to decline as it slowly dawns on the scourers that actually their team is no where near as good as they thought.

I said second at the start of the season and I still think that's attainable. Thankfully City look shite too.

Don't worry, the next phase will take care of Barney's nonsense.

The bust comes quickly and rock bottom is reached after christmas. As sure as the 25th is christmas day, the dying embers of a Liverpool title challenge flicker away into nothing.



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Good:

Sturridge
Coutinho

Ok:
Joe Allen

Bad:
Balotelli --- Yes, already.
Mignolet
Toure
Cissokho
Borini
Assaidi
Sahin
Aspas
Alberto
Moses

Undecided:
Sakho
Yesil
Teixeira
Ilori*
Lambert
Lallana*
Can*
Markovic
Lovren
Origi*
Manquillo*
Moreno*

Thats a pretty terrible record. Even Sturridge is injury prone and Coutinho suspect to consistency.
I go with this version. Except move Toure up to OK.

Yesterday : Steaming pile of shite. BR needs to sort himself out because he is now the problem. Persisting with Mario up front alone, persisting with 4-3-3 (his favourite) when the midfield diamond is obviously far better suited to a team without Sturridge, persisting with forcing the defence to adhere to his passing system of using Ming as an extra defender which is preventing them from playing naturally, persisting with making shite substitutions. He deserves more time for last season but his head is on the block (knee jerk rant now over).
 
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I go with this version. Except more Toure up to OK.

Yesterday : Steaming pile of shite. BR needs to sort himself out because he is now the problem. Persisting with Mario up front alone, persisting with 4-3-3 (his favourite) when the midfield diamond is obviously far better suited to a team without Sturridge, persisting with forcing the defence to adhere to his passing system of using Ming as an extra defender which is preventing them from playing naturally, persisting with making shite substitutions. He deserves more time for last season but his head is on the block (knee jerk rant now over).

Probably the first time I've said this for a while (nothing against you personally...just how it goes) but I unanimously agree.
 
If zero premier league goals in the first seven games is what you want from your strikers then fair enough but it is my opinion that even a mid table club like Liverpool (average position of 6th across the last 5 seasons, medium position of 7th) should be expecting at least one goal from their striker in 7 premier league games.
Well Crouch had 0 in 15 (I think it was) but he still turned out decent if nothing fantastic. Difference is with Crouch he was still an integral, and contributing, part of the team whereas with Mario, good player that he is, he just doesn't seem suited to BR's ideas of how we should be playing.
 
Hmmm not sure I agree with that. Liverpool fans have been constantly poking United with a stick since last season.
Welcome to tribal rivalry. You can easily substitute United for Liverpool and vice versa in that sentence above .. and add 20 years.
 
There'll be at least a good 10 points or so between City and Liverpool come the end of the season, and they won't be in your favour.
Agree. Chelsea/City for the top 2 then Arse/United/Pool for the next three in whatever order they eventually sort themselves out. January, and any additions to any of those 3 clubs, could be crucial in deciding the order.
 
Just thought about it now but Liverpool would be miles better off if Remy hadn't 'failed' his medical.
Many 'Pool supporters were disappointed for the same reasons ... he is a player that suits the way we play, whereas Balo is a player that needs to adapt, and has so far failed miserably regardless of how hard he is trying in training.
 
Humble pie is selling out fast in the red half, get it while it's hot.
Mine's in the oven ...but won't be coming out until it is certain, if at all, that United will finish above us and/or we can not attain a Top 4 (that is I don't give a shite if United finish 3rd if we in turn finish 4th).
 
Unfortunate that it has to be a post about how shite we were that you agree with ;)

Ha. True that.

In fairness there isn't much to be positive at the minute! Come back next week when we destroy Real Madrid and Chelsea on the bounce ;)
 
Well Crouch had 0 in 15 (I think it was) but he still turned out decent if nothing fantastic. Difference is with Crouch he was still an integral, and contributing, part of the team whereas with Mario, good player that he is, he just doesn't seem suited to BR's ideas of how we should be playing.

Well I doubt Crouch is the level of striker you want...
 
Ha. True that.

In fairness there isn't much to be positive at the minute! Come back next week when we destroy Real Madrid and Chelsea on the bounce ;)
I nearly missed the match last night because I was stuck on an island off the coast of Shanghai when the bridge connecting to the ferry broke ! It was fixed within 5 hours (but I sort of wish it had been 8 hours). I think I'll go to another mountain or island, without an internet connection, for the next week.
 
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As I said before, the worst thing about this Liverpool side is that every game looks like a possible defeat. You genuinely can see them losing to anyone in the league. Even the QPR win was a fluke.

Compare it to last year when they were smashing sides 4 or 5 nil.

I think the interesting thing is that Liverpool fans will be thankful they aren't 5 points worse off (QPR & So'ton) whereas United fans are ruing with decisions going our way not being 5 points higher (Leicester & Burnley).

That's a huge swing at this point.
 
Any January transfer news for these lot?

Saw something about a Seire A 'keeper replacing Mignolet. Didn't read the article though so I am not sure who that would be. Anyone would be an upgrade though.
 
Any January transfer news for these lot?

Regardless how Sturridge comes back from his injury, I think they've got to buy another striker. When you look at the strikers that moved this summer, it baffles me why Liverpool weren't in for some of them? Demba Ba would've been a lot better option than Balo. Even Torres?
 
Regardless how Sturridge comes back from his injury, I think they've got to buy another striker. When you look at the strikers that moved this summer, it baffles me why Liverpool weren't in for some of them? Demba Ba would've been a lot better option than Balo. Even Torres?

Definitely not Torres. Ba perhaps but doesnt he have injury issues? Either ways, Balo just doesnt suit the way they want to play, neither does he seem to be the player to adapt so much.
 
Regardless how Sturridge comes back from his injury, I think they've got to buy another striker. When you look at the strikers that moved this summer, it baffles me why Liverpool weren't in for some of them? Demba Ba would've been a lot better option than Balo. Even Torres?
Exactly. And I kinda agree with you, if Rodgers thought he could mend Balotelli then surely he could have done so with Torres, a player who actually was a good player.
 
Reflecting on the game yesterday. They played a more conservative game plan (i assume by choice) of trying to keep better possession in midfield in order to control the game, sacrificing a extra man in attacking areas in general play and trusting their attackers to do it by themselves. This was a bit like the first half of Rodgers first season, pre-Sturridge. Back then Liverpool weren't very good but they were controlled and improving. On the other hand back then they had Suarez, and while his goalscoring wasn't as good that season, his work rate in wide areas was superb. Since Coutinho, Balotello and Sterling all had poor games (for different reasons) it meant that Liverpool, if anything, were worse than they were in that first half of Rodgers' first season.

Their biggest problem is the balance between attack and defence. The defence looks unlikely to keep a clean sheet even if the team is playing more conservatively, like yesterday. So trying to see out tight games is unlikely to work for them. They look liable to concede in any given game they play at the moment and if they're overly conservative in attack then a single goal will lose you a game, like yesterday.

However they lack the firepower up front to just blitz teams anymore, and if they do push men forward to increase their chances of scoring, the defence look like they're going to concede in every attack never mind every game. Certainly that back four don't look like a group that's happy to deal with regularly 3v3 or 2v2 situations.

Not sure where Rodgers goes from here. Playing a more controlled styled of football has given them 0 goals and 1 point from the last two games, both of which are the kind of games they need to win to challenge for the top 4. Basically they look like they're waiting for Sturridge to come back and hoping that he hits the ground running.
 
The best thing that Suarez brought to Liverpool was his relentless pressing from the front. It sounds kind of stupid but if you see a player that good putting in such a shift from the front, you simply follow suit. Watching him press and harass constantly makes the rest of the team do it. Without the striker doing it, team pressing simply can't work.

At times it hid Liverpool's defensive frailties as teams could get through their attack and midfield to get to their weak defense. Now, they haven't changed their actual defence tactics at all but due to the lack of pressing they are being more and more exposed whilst doing nothing to counter it such as play a proper dm or sit the defence deeper.