Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense

Have to think that Liverpool will back and be a contender for the top 4 this season as well. I dont mind Brenton as much as plenty of the posters on this site, but surely it has to be a slight worry that he doesnt seem to have a plan B (no Sturridge) or plan C (Gerrard being closed down) ? Just a suggestion, as it seem to be a major reason for the poor results so far this season.
Actually BR has a plan A,B, C & D ! That is the different formations we used last season, even 3 at the back on occasion (which we've seen once this season already). Unfortunately it is going to take some time to integrate so many new players (and get them used to the different systems) and that effort is being compounded by an injury in the one area we can least afford it. New players adjust at different speeds, Lamela being a point in case (there are hundreds more), he looks a different, exciting, player to the piece of crud playing for Spurs last season. Lallana looks to have hit the ground running even after missing all of pre-season with an injury, Balotelli the same, pity for Can an injury has grounded him just when he looked like he could be a very useful player.
I would be very surprised if we didn't a) have a really good cup run somewhere b) make last 16/8 in the CL and c) compete strongly for Top 4 with Arse & United, Spurs & Everton won't be far behind but as per last season they won't compete well with other Top 7 teams and this will cost them.
 
Maybe so but you look significantly weaker than last year, top four's obviously still a possibility, and it would only take one or two injuries for United to drop into the 8th-5th bracket, same with Arsenal who get embarrassingly overrated every season when they're just lucky they never have any real competition for 4th.
Wenger is Arsenal's biggest issue - not the players. They would have challenged for the title last season but for an horrendous injury list (almost twice as many 'player match days' lost to injury compared to United/Liverpool/City and 3 times more than Chelsea).
 
Squad comparisons are pointless, we had a better squad than Liverpool last season and still finished five places below 'em.
They are always fun though ! And thinking that Sterling/Sturridge on last year's form are not worthy of a place in United's team (regardless of the names, wages and transfer fees of some) is definitely very very disputable.
 
Sturridge is good, but is he really that good that he'd fire Liverpool above us? They're creating f*ck all at the moment anyway.
It is very interesting to see how we played against Spurs with him, and since without him. His pace, threat and even creativity, generates much more space for those around him.
 
Not quite IMO.

A lot of the senior players simply either declined, or lost hunger after SAF's final title win and season. That hurt us more than anything, as the likes of Smalling, Jones, Kagawa, Hernandez, Cleverly, Welbeck among other young players did not step up, or progress. The same players that were mostly carried by the senior players in that 20th title win. It was a horrible mixture of squad problems that's best forgotten, as the majority of said players have moved on anyway.
Absolutely the correct analysis.
 
There may be just too much weight on Sturridge's shoulders this season, with Suarez gone. Balotelli isn't even worth talking about - he'll score the odd goal but his presence is more of a distraction than a benefit. Added to that, they can't rely on Sterling all the time. It may be that Liverpool need to spend a season or two consolidating their gains and refining their squad. I really don't see them as a credible top 4 team this season.
 
You need to be careful with Sterling. You could end up relying on him too much and burning him out. He is also likely to get targeted by defenders and end up with legs like Owen.
 
If Sturridge, Gerrard, Lallana and Sterling can't help England pass the group stage during the world cup, how will they be able to get Liverpool into the top 4?

Is Wayne Rooney then the reason they under performed for England?
 
Tonight could be a tough game for Liverpool. Basel away, while not among the toughest places to go, is still a good test for them.

It's got a very bitter edge to it recently this thread.

They hate the possibilty of us taking over them again, after one season - inwhich they didn't actually win anything. Doesn't seem fair in their eyes as we've had 20 plus years of dominance. The games against them this season are going to be intense.

What's happened to Barney by the way? Has he left the caf?
 
They hate the possibilty of us taking over them again, after one season - inwhich they didn't actually win anything. Doesn't seem fair in their eyes as we've had 20 plus years of dominance. The games against them this season are going to be intense.

What's happened to Barney by the way? Has he left the caf?

Barney is banned.
 
Basel have lost a few players over the last few years, but won't be an easy game for Liverpool.

Seems Sturridge is still out, when's he fit again?


Migs
Manquillo Skrtel Lovren Moreno
Gerrard
Henderson Coutinho
Lallana
Sterling Balotelli
That's how I'd line up if I was Rodgers, they could really do with a proper ball winner in that side though.
 
It's got a very bitter edge to it recently this thread.

Not really, I've enjoyed the last few exchanges and I didn't sense much hostility the other way either.

You're just a WUM trying to see things that aren't there.
 
BR: "Daniel won’t be fit [for England]. Whether he is available for the weekend [against WBA] or not, he won’t be fit [for England]."

Like it.
 
BR: "Daniel won’t be fit [for England]. Whether he is available for the weekend [against WBA] or not, he won’t be fit [for England]."

Like it.

What a thick bastard. Should have gone down the Fergie route of saying Sturridge picked up an injury after the WBA game not before it. It wouldn't surprise me if Hodgson now called him up just to spite Rodgers.
 
Rodgers says Sakho has apologised for storming out of Anfield on Sat and 'we move on'. Thigh injury will keep him out for 2 to 3 weeks.

Bit convenient isn't it? He somehow picks up a thigh injury in the what, 1 training session we had before leaving for the game? Which would have probably been a recovery session too.

Basel have lost a few players over the last few years, but won't be an easy game for Liverpool.

Seems Sturridge is still out, when's he fit again?


Migs
Manquillo Skrtel Lovren Moreno
Gerrard
Henderson Coutinho
Lallana
Sterling Balotelli
That's how I'd line up if I was Rodgers, they could really do with a proper ball winner in that side though.

That's what I'd go for too. I think Rodgers will do the same (though more likely to be in a 4-3-3, which I wouldn't be as keen on).
 
If Sturridge, Gerrard, Lallana and Sterling can't help England pass the group stage during the world cup, how will they be able to get Liverpool into the top 4?

Is Wayne Rooney then the reason they under performed for England?

That debate begins and ends with Hodgson.
 
That debate begins and ends with Hodgson.

Rodgers has a feck load to prove yet though. This season was always going to be the bigger test for him too. CL football, losing the best player in the league, and a bunch of potentially good/Southampton players brought in. Mario Balloteli also.. which should prove quite testing on top of it all.

Let's see how he fares.
 
What a thick bastard. Should have gone down the Fergie route of saying Sturridge picked up an injury after the WBA game not before it. It wouldn't surprise me if Hodgson now called him up just to spite Rodgers.
Hodgson has every right to call him up even if he's injured. He doesn't have to justify it. Rodgers has also said he doesn't want Sterling called up.
 
Hodgson has every right to call him up even if he's injured. He doesn't have to justify it. Rodgers has also said he doesn't want Sterling called up.

He got injured when away with England so Brendan is right to be cautious - sure you wouldn't be that bothered if United pulled players out of internationals.
 
He got injured when away with England so Brendan is right to be cautious - sure you wouldn't be that bothered if United pulled players out of internationals.

Players get injured, all clubs have to deal with it. Rodgers coming out with these comments makes him look like a cock. He's trying to impose some sort of false power. He should have just said Sturridge was still unfit, and left it there.
 
Hodgson has every right to call him up even if he's injured. He doesn't have to justify it. Rodgers has also said he doesn't want Sterling called up.

He does have the power. But I am sure he would have accepted not having Sturridge against San Marino and Estonia but Rodgers acting like a cock might make him stubborn and he might end calling them up.
 
Sturridge should just pull a Giggs and develop a muscle twinge that develops just before the international break and resolves just before club football restarts. ;)
 
He does have the power. But I am sure he would have accepted not having Sturridge against San Marino and Estonia but Rodgers acting like a cock might make him stubborn and he might end calling them up.
He might still call them up, even though they won't play, purely for the purpose of keeping them in touch with what the group as a whole is doing.
 
Sturridge should just pull a Giggs and develop a muscle twinge that develops just before the international break and resolves just before club football restarts. ;)

His international career was absolutely wrecked by these uncannily timed niggles. Oh what could have been.
 
He got injured when away with England so Brendan is right to be cautious - sure you wouldn't be that bothered if United pulled players out of internationals.

Right, but it's not as if playing for England was some unusual cause for his injury, nor are international matches some unreasonable expectation to make of players. Rodgers has been acting as if asking his players to play for the country is outrageous and hugely costly to the club by definition. Players get injured, and he happened to get injured in the England shirt instead of the Liverpool shirt. The way they've acted all indignant about it ever since, as if they were exploited and abused, is frankly pathetic.