Suso is joining Milan according to Di Marzio. £2.4m fee. He was also wanted by Dortmund and Atletico. Baffled why we're letting him go. When Dortmund and Atletico want him you know you are making a mistake in letting him go. He has more talent than a lot of the youngsters who were given chances under Rodgers.
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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Also reports that Valdes will join next month when he is fit. Mignolet is probably shitting it.
Probably because a) we have so much talent in front of him in his position and b) it's been mentioned that he's not as dedicated to training as BR would like him to be.
This looks nailed on .... Balague has been on about being a done deal for some time. Supposedly just a medical in October.
Will be delighted if we get Valdés. Partly because I really rate him and partly because I don't like Mignolet, win-win.
Concerns exist about his injury of course but otherwise he's the perfect type of keeper for our style of play - Mignolet on the other hand never really made much sense, poor on the ball and far too inclined to stay on his line (even if he's improving...).
Concerns exist about his injury of course but otherwise he's the perfect type of keeper for our style of play - Mignolet on the other hand never really made much sense, poor on the ball and far too inclined to stay on his line (even if he's improving...).
We can also turn this arse about tit :
United Fans continue to ignore how good Liverpool were/are and instead make excuses regarding the failure of other teams or call it a 'flash in the pan' and focus solely on Suarez as the source of everything good about the team, ignoring the contributions of others. The 'Suarez Factor' is now given as almost the exclusive reason why Liverpool will fall back into mediocrity this season, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary.
United fans continue to hail their new players as all that is required to transform them into a title chasing (even Title-winning if you read through enough threads) despite the fact that most have played only a single game if any at all.
United fans continue to slag off BR and refuse to acknowledge the improvements he has made, even though, on a much wider platform, he is being lauded. The opposite applies to LvG who is seen as the 2nd Coming and incapable of failure.
United fans continue to think that the injuries they have suffered are somehow much worse than those of other teams however this is not the case (also bear in mind the size of the respective squads) :
2013/14 (player days injured) : Arsenal 1,716, Spurs 1,441, Everton 1,367, United 1,146, Liverpool* 997, City 929, Chelsea 556. *naturally excludes Suarez missing the first 6 weeks.
2014/15 (per player absent = one point per week) : United 31, Liverpool 22, Arsenal 21, Everton 14, Spurs 12, City 6, Chelsea 4).
You've got to wonder how Chelsea have so few injuries.
See how your 'complaints' can easily be (mis)construed as biased whining when in the oppositions' shoes ? You could easily substitute 'Liverpool' For 'United' in those sentences and with a little manipulation and name changes have a 180 degree viewpoint.
It's all tribalism, you should have worked it out by now !
If Liverpool had Gerrard, Henderson, Moreno, Manquillo/Johnson, Skrtel all injured, while having to play the likes of *insert two really shit players here*, and they had gained 2 points from their opening 3 games, I wouldn't be writing them off. It'd be completely understandable. That's the situation United is in. I'm not saying it doesn't happen to other teams, I'm saying it's happened to us and that this season's performances and results are not a fair reflection of our abilities.
It's really simple. Thing is you've got posted like redman, Barney and Dumbstar (you seem alright), who like to ignore this actuality, preferring to say we're shit ("LOL drew to Burnley and Sunderland, and lost to Swansea! Ur shit! Gonna get relegated ahahah!"), instead of actually taking into account the circumstances that have led to these results.
Can't be proved, one thing you can say, if the team wasn't set up so high up the pitch in attack then the space behind Gerrard wouldn't have been no mans land. It's irrelevant now anyway, I like many others think it was a feck up, hopefully for you Rodgers realises it too and can learn from it.
By the way, what Rodgers has done hasn't been overlooked it's been duly noted, just because a rival fan believes Rodgers made an error doesn't mean said fan thinks he's poor, he's human. You can have your flaws and still play for or manage Liverpool football club you know. I personally think Rooneys a knob who's getting more consistent with his errors but he's still dynamite when his forms up.
City, Chelsea, United were always going to be laboured last year, I had Arsenal finally getting over the finishing line with the managerial changes. Moyeschester well, say no more but the big surprise was Rodgerpool, it was yours man, you had it, the T-Shirts hot off the press and you missed it, it was a chance that might not come along again in a while, with the settling teams around the top now nearing completion, so yes thanks for that bright moment in a season filled with woe.
Just as an aside, last season was dismal by United's standards so if we as fans are positive and excited with the new signings and manager then it shouldn't come as a surprise, of course we fecking are, we've got Di Maria and Radamel
Nope, as I've said innumerable times, and the point your lot seems to, infuriatingly, miss, so I'll say it one last time, is that when you have a team of Fletcher, Cleverley, Young, Valencia and a completely inexperienced Blackett, all starting, you don't expect anything. If we'd experienced a similar start with our strongest XI, then yeah, I'd be worried and annoyed.
Not sure I would to be honest, I expect plenty more poor results on the horizon before we start it really pick it up. Obviously the injection of quality is going to help perhaps with results though.
So, Fabio Borini.
Are you guys as pissed off at him as we almost were at Cleverley?
Seems a similar (ish) situation, both players have impressed in spells at other clubs but been largely shite for us/you, both refuse to move to a lesser club because they are a bit greedy and clearly overrate themselves.
Just to be clear though, I don't think Borini's that bad, I would class him as a nothing wide player but a potentially very good centre forward, similar to Welbeck. So seeing as he's never going to be as good as Sturridge or Balotelli whilst Lambert is the current back-up for you he probably should've moved on.
Are you guys as pissed off at him as we almost were at Cleverley?
Seems a similar (ish) situation, both players have impressed in spells at other clubs but been largely shite for us/you, both refuse to move to a lesser club because they are a bit greedy and clearly overrate themselves.
Just to be clear though, I don't think Borini's that bad, I would class him as a nothing wide player but a potentially very good centre forward, similar to Welbeck. So seeing as he's never going to be as good as Sturridge or Balotelli whilst Lambert is the current back-up for you he probably should've moved on.
Now the thing about the squad lists can they be added to at this point or are they locked in place? I know in emergency situations you can get dispensation to get say a keeper in when all your other keepers are hurt, but can you add to the list before the end of the winter transfer window?
EDIT: googling a few things and not getting a clear answer, seen some suggestions that you can add players who come in on loan, others say the list can not change until the winter window closes. Clear as mud
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He is a free agent so can be added.
Not arsed, to be honest. This article: http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2014/09/curious-case-fabio-borini/ sums up his situation and Borini even responded by saying it's spot on. I think Borini can be a good player, but it won't be with us.
Mignolet in nets is a fecking emergency situation.
That would work wouldn't it. thanks
Yes in hindsight it was naive but at the time with momentum on his side it could have been a masterstroke. I think losing to Soton and a draw with a dire WBA were far more significant than the loss to Chelsea though. I don't like Johnson defensively but Skrtel had a very good season a couple of years back.I have already stated in this thread that Rodgers may learn from those mistakes last year, the naivety came from attacking Mourinhos side when a draw would have sufficed, it didn't take a top manager to see that but yea with the new signings we will see how he gets on.
Do have to say though that it seems to have come as a surprise that Johnson is shite, he's been shite as a fullback since day one, Skrtel isn't much better as CB, he's a penalty in him every game if they get seen
Meh he's a good stopper. Maybe a bit young yet but he will improve with experience.
I don't recall Valdes loving Liverpool, and as usual when a big name is linked they never get him. Falcao (lol), Reus etc, very little chance he is going. And Ballbag is not the most reliable "in the know".
He's been right on it this summer Mitch, called Di Maria and Herrera as I remember.
Ballague isn't the only one reporting it. I'd say it's very likely to happen.
Sakho was motm against Spain.
Is Raheem Sterling that good? I was on reddit the other day and he was a popular choice to be the best footballer in 5 years time. I thought his ceiling was a notch below the likes of Gareth Bale.
Sakho was motm against Spain.
Did he get it? I thought Pogba ran the show watching it. Valdes would be a good signing, Mignolet isn't that great. Infact, Reina is probably better. Did he fall out with Rodgers or something?
They've had to raise his ceiling so he can get in the house with that ridiculous hair.
He's done really well and he's shown glimpses of great passing towards the end of last season. I think he's currently the best teenager.
According to whoscored's twitter, it was Sakho.
Hope Sakho can keep Costa this quiet when we play Chelsea. Maybe keep him in his pocket until that game.
Fair enough, him and Varane dealt with Costa well, who once again in a Spain shirt looked useless. Just thought Pogba was dynamite in the midfield. I think Sakho is good but a bit rash, and could work on his passing a lot. Same could be said of Vidic when he first came though tbf.
Be happy with Valdez coming in to keep Mignolet on his toes. Mignolets a good shot stopper but then most of all PL goalies are. He's a bit awkward in a crowded box, doesn't react well to bounces and makes some goals conceded look fairly preventable at times, but he's not a bad keeper at all.
He does need someone to challenge him though before he starts to develop a 'Joe hart complacency' attitude to his game and we start seeing terrible mistakes .
He does need someone to challenge him though before he starts to develop a 'Joe hart complacency' attitude to his game and we start seeing terrible mistakes .
Valdes replaces Miggy and that's it.
Shouldn't the name of this thread be changed to this year?
Yep.
Sturridge injured in England training. Going for a scan.
Don't worry you have Rickie Lambert to bang them in.
Sturridge injured in England training. Going for a scan.
The Guardian are saying it's a thigh problem. We can get by without him over our next run of fixtures though.
Borini and Lambert = goals.
So Sturridge injured for England again.
Everything to do with the national set up is so fecking tedious.
Everything to do with the national set up is so fecking tedious.
Sturridge turning into a bit of a sicknote. Another thing with Suarez, the bugger never seemed to get injured.