There's a video in this thread somewhere of him being smoked for pace by what is apparently a player not known for his pace. It was over 30-40 yards or so, so I'm hoping he's agile and quick over smaller distances. But the thought of a high line with him and our current CBs is a bit worrying. ETH obviously trusts him, but he has noted he's not the quickest player himself.
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There's a video in this thread somewhere of him being smoked for pace by what is apparently a player not known for his pace. It was over 30-40 yards or so, so I'm hoping he's agile and quick over smaller distances. But the thought of a high line with him and our current CBs is a bit worrying. ETH obviously trusts him, but he has noted he's not the quickest player himself.
This was the point I was trying to make, he might not be better at manhandling strikers but he's definitely a better footballer. That's what our team is missing right now, good footballers.
From what I've seen, he's agile and has good balance... Might not be the best with long distance pace. Varane is great with that though.
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How’s Maguire’s list looking mate?
What do you think the chances are of them letting go of Antony after this? If we want him then I would have gone for him first. We need a RW/Attackers far more urgently.
Very similar to Timber, just doesnt have that insane pace or dribbling but a better passer.
Martinez is a modern defender, his qualities arent based on height, speed and raw strength, but he's still defensively very strong.
Agile, usually quite quick, good reader of the game, agressive, tactically strong, awesome on the ball and has great mentality. It is a completely different approach to the game that we arent used to at the club. I see the club slowly transforming at different levels, and its good to see. Happy with this transfer, and he'll do well, whatever position he plays in.
Only thing Maguire won in his career is his fecking case in a Greek court.
To be fair that was in his first season I believe where he admitted himself he really struggled and hated his initial time at Ajax. So I doubt he was anywhere near his physical and mental peak at that point.
Uh huh, because the premier league is home to the mythical giants of football who exclusively play for clubs outside the top 6, and teams like Ajax have never faced such towering behemoths in neither their league nor the CL, of which they consistently reach the latter stages.
It's a miracle that these unstoppable monsters of the premier league don't dominate in Europe
Thank you. Who would you pair him with at United to compliment him best?
Varane I assume but Maguire or Lindelof?
He had the honour of helping Hull get relegated too.
I don't think we can afford him after going for Frenkie as well.
Gravenberch, Martinez, Mazraoui are all key players, and Haller too in some sense. Ajax is going to want to see 80+ million euro's for Anthony me thinks and will prefer to keep him.
They owe the new manager support as well.
Which strikers would they be then? Haaland and Nunez are ruled out after he comfortably dealt with them.
Varane was once known to be quite a pact CB, but last season I thought he was quite lumbering and awkward. Based on last season I'd have him about level with Lindelof. In fact I had reservations when we signed him after watching him hopelessly try to defend against City in the CL, particularly Sterling who had him in toast and made him look amateur.
Ah yes of course. Don’t put the nail in the guys coffin though
Agree but no shame in being slower than Sterling.
He's absolutely full, the comments in here.
No idea mate, I find our CB's tricky anyway. Maybe it's blind loyalty but Varane, Maguire, Lindelof can all be quality. But they also have been huge letdowns, so I have no idea which version of them will turn up. For aerial presence I think Maguire, and I think Maguire is better than Lindelof in general.
Lindelof has this crosspass to Rashford once every two months, but we wouldnt miss it with Martinez. He can play that pass every match.
Hopefully that's the case. But I don't know if a bit more fitness and mental strength can account for the yards he lost that race by
At some point people will realise international football is not a barometer anymore. 90% of his international matches are considerably easier than any Premier League game.
Didn’t play in the final. Or the final of the Finallisima.
In fact Argentina’s starting pair are Otamendi & Romero. So a 34 year old City reject & an on loan Spurs player are deemed better then this guy. Hardly a ringing endorsement of a player we’re about to drop €50 million on.
He does look quality on the ball to be fair. We have CBs that are considered good with the ball, which I have always felt was a bit of a fallacy. But he plays passes our CBs just won't even attempt.
Eriksen plays deep now and his competition is Fred, McT and Garner before any more signings are made. Would say he instantly becomes our best midfielder if he joins now. And who knows which shape Shaw is in.
Oh feck me that was superb
Yes it was, what's so funny?
I shouldn't have to explain the sillyness of the post.
Imagine trying to favourably compare Maguire with any other footballer based on their achievements.
Dude won a championship playoff and the square root of feck all else.
Dude won a championship playoff and the square root of feck all else.
Came on in the 89th minute of that tooImagine trying to favourably compare Maguire with any other footballer based on their achievements.
Dude won a championship playoff and the square root of feck all else.
Him and Timber pocketed Haaland in CL this year. 4-0 Ajax win, Haaland had 4 shots in the match.
That's just a boring excuse, a good manager should be able to coach all his players.
That’s what I’m interested in, how the team looks with a CB possessing his passing range.
savage, man. Be lenient when i'm opposing you, please.This kind of thing is out of order mate, no need.
Is this on?
If that bid is legit, welcome aboard Mr. Butcher!
But like ETH's position at United, Schreuder can come in almost with a new slate and with lower expectations. He will have a lot more $$ and can afford to buy the players that suit his system?
This is another signing I am going to be very excited about.
To be fair to them both, there's a real skill involved with that.
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