[NLunited]

It was a textbook centre back's goal, smash it as hard as he possibly can. Great goal but I probably wouldn't call it clinical finishing!

From that angle roofing it is the best option. He made the right decision.

 

[NLunited]

Martinez back to his best meat processing self.

The comments from Amorim clearly stuck with several players: there were leaders all over the pitch.

That makes it easier for any individual to show their best.

 

[McLvnsMuse]

Great performance!! Very well taken goal. Aggression, decisiveness and impact. All the things we’ve wanted from him more consistently.

Day after so I can be less emotional.

He’s Still a player I’d consider selling. I struggle to see past his physical limitations (Speed and Height) plus We can get a good money for him.

The version of this team that goes on to win titles probably doesn’t include him in my opinion.

I like him but if he was the player many desperately want him to be, we won’t concede as many goals as we do (plenty evidence of him being culpable over the past few years).

 

[Fobal]

Best game he's had in god knows how long. Quite possibly the best game he's ever had for us with Varane not next to him? Not that I'm a historian on what games Martinez has played without Varane or anything.

Well man, it just takes couple of weeks ago with his last match against City to find a great game by him.
This is the problem, even if he hasn't be his best self, the critics and preception go to far.

Some of his mistakes were really badins ome of his games thsi season, yet at the same time in many of those matches he did great things too.

Also many of his interventions in this last game were really close to be fatal if he didn't pull it out (example that great ball from Mac Allister to Salah that he just robbed the ball with the tip of his toe with a tackle and Salah had a freeway to score if he managed to win that duel).

Till United doesn't find its best version, mantein better its shape, shyte will happen and even in such cases, plays like the mentioned with Salah sometimes will fall on the bad side of the coin, it's fecking football. The good thing to mantein this mentallity, even if sometimes he'll fail and the attacker will just do some great stuff. The biggest issue was not seeing him in his front foot and somehow mad/troubled at his mates, that last vid talking like a Captain looks more like the real Licha mentallity.

 

[Ludens the Red]

He had an absolutely masterclass against City away and got rightly praised, and then followed that up with his worst form since he's been here.

At some point we have to stop looking at individual performances because they can fluctuate game to game, week to week, month to month. What we really need to ask if they really have the necessary attributes to be a consistently elite player in their position. A centre back who is slow and small will never be a colossal centre back that we want. He will have good games, and he will have games where his obvious physical weaknesses are exposed, that's what we have to prepare ourselves for and ask are we going to win the league with that?

I don't think him getting overpowered on an aerial duel from a cross that results in a goal is because he had an off game or he's not match sharp, or it's a new formation, that's just who he is. I don't think when he gets outrun and outpaced it's because it's an off game or because he has a new centre back partner, that's just who he is. That's just his limitations as a player.

Absolutely bang on the money. This is how the team develops and takes shape. Certain positions in this system/team need to be occupied by players with a certain skill set/profile:.. and some players we have currently don’t have that. That simple . Martinez is not one who is going to be suitable long term. Same shit for Dalot, Zirkzee, Onana etc.

 

[McLvnsMuse]

He had an absolutely masterclass against City away and got rightly praised, and then followed that up with his worst form since he's been here.

At some point we have to stop looking at individual performances because they can fluctuate game to game, week to week, month to month. What we really need to ask if they really have the necessary attributes to be a consistently elite player in their position. A centre back who is slow and small will never be a colossal centre back that we want. He will have good games, and he will have games where his obvious physical weaknesses are exposed, that's what we have to prepare ourselves for and ask are we going to win the league with that?

I don't think him getting overpowered on an aerial duel from a cross that results in a goal is because he had an off game or he's not match sharp, or it's a new formation, that's just who he is. I don't think when he gets outrun and outpaced it's because it's an off game or because he has a new centre back partner, that's just who he is. That's just his limitations as a player.

Best articulation I’ve seen. This!!

Martinez needs to constantly be at his best to avoid getting exposed.

A small dip in form mean a mistimed jump or run. He can’t recover like taller or faster defenders typically would.