Spot on, this is what makes me so angry about our owners. The evidence is there for all to see... we have been so badly managed over the years. Look at teams with much smaller revenue.... pound for pound they're miles ahead of us.
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People suggesting they're not worried about him joining City as he's already on the decline really are fooling themselves. His worst ever season for Barca is still comfortably better than David Silva's best ever season. And Silva is arguably City's best ever player.
How have Barca managed to get themselves in this situation, they make Woodward look competent.
It gets more and more depressing the more I think about it. They are going to sign the best player of all time.
Still struggling to come to terms with this. Bloody hell. Why City?
Why can't he piss off to PSG, or literally anywhere else.
Why can't he piss off to PSG, or literally anywhere else.
Way more than a third more in achievement
I think I may be slowly giving up on football. Clubs like City and PSG have just sucked everything out of it.
I am not worried about him joining City as we have bigger issues. It's not like we were going to catch up to them if they didn't get Messi. Only worry is this raises their profile. But as I said we have our own issues to worry about.
well it means either Aguero is leaving City, or City have a new number 10. No other reason to changeOnce that happens it's over. It's done. Once you move a number from your instagram.
Aguero has changed his username from KUNAGUERO10 to KUNAGUERO
I fail to understand this. I don't get why people give that much importance to two clubs that haven't been special in the last 10 years and even less special when you consider the last 30-40 years in football. I fail to understand people's obsession, they haven't been particularly successful, there is plenty of great players around football. The essentially took Milan and Inter places when it comes to top player's distribution and funnily enough they also replaced Milan and Inter as the poster boys of sugar daddying.
This is a 50/50 opportunity for City. There's no guarantee that Messi will settle at City and although he's excelled in a lot of games, he's not been able to carry Barcelona or Argentina to greatness in recent years despite having great players around him. (That's what I'm hoping anyway).
I can't see how City could make this work financially and not fall foul of UEFA again unless Messi agrees to operate within the normal wage structures of the PL.
I can't see how City could make this work financially and not fall foul of UEFA again unless Messi agrees to operate within the normal wage structures of the PL.
Or it doesnt mean anything.
They can re-sell their stadium name again next year. It was a 10 year contract agreed originally, signed in 2011. Fully expect them to do that
25 goals with 20+ assists in the league last season.
Sure he's 33 but so is the current Premier League golden boot winner
It's not obsession, more so it's difficult to stomach seeing the best player that's ever graced the game leave Barcelona for a club that got bought by a Sheikh in 2008. If you fail understand why some might see that as a reason to lose interest in this game, well then there's no real discussion here.
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But that's not on City, Messi could pick any club and if he ends up at City that's his choice not City and even less PSG. And yes I fail to understand how someone would pretend to love a sport and lose interest because a player signed for a particular club. I may lose interest in Messi(I will) but not the game of Football.
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I bet he's really looking forward to The Daily Mail using a long zoom lens to take a pic of him giving one of his kids a kiss and then calling him a foreign nonce.
I’ve had a look on bluemoon and it seems the general consensus is that they don’t want/need an ageing Messi either. Them lot and you guys are all mad! We are talking about the best player on the planet here!
Those daft cnuts reckon Phil Foden could pull Excalibur's sword from the stone using only his wand of a left foot, so I wouldn't pay too much heed.
I agree. I don't care what people say, Messi is not some Falcao experiment. This is one of the greatest players to have ever played the game of football. His presence is enough to satiate most egos. A supernatural force in football.
2020 has been quite the year.
Well then as I said there's no real discussion, some people don't feel the way you do about where the game has been heading. Go ahead and still love the game, nobody is telling you not to.
Which is why I said that I don't get it. You shared your feelings on a forum and I commented on it, it would have been nice to have your perspective in order for me to get it but if you don't want to it's fine.
I gave you my perspective in my reply to you though?
Yes silva and aguero's legacy will not be the same as if they had achieved the same feats at a club like real madrid, barca, juventus, milan clubs or even liverpool, there is a different type of pressure and scrutiny that comes from having to perform for these type of clubs.
Man city are a small club and I'm not saying that as a dig towards them as united fan, it's just a reality and I wouldn't not being saying this if he was joining liverpool, in some ways it will be a sad sight to see man city's stadium as potentially messi's final stage to perform on whilst still being able to deliver world class performances, it should be something far more grand or historic stage for his last remaining years at the top.
That was your first mistake.
I get that I'm being inquisitive and it's not ideal but I don't get how City became that important that it reduced your love for Football. I don't know how to put it in a better way, I get your dislike for City but I don't get how it extends to Football.
Maybe it's time to understand that not everybody sees it that way. Most people don't really care if they've got history or not, they are a top team and in the public perception currently ahead of many teams with a richer past. One of the absolute best destinations in world football for sure.
was he a top manager when he arrived?
hadnt he taken sparta rotterdam to their first ever relegation the season before (other than that he had only managed the dutch team in one tournament) - he was a big name but didnt arrive as a top manager (if I recall he arrived after Laporte had already signed ronaldinho as well)
Clearly he did very well there and takes some credit but he didnt achieve much with galatasary or Saudi Arabia either so im not sure he qualifies as a top manager?
Guess its not just United muppets who cling on to the 'shirt sales will pay for the transfer' myth
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How so? I dont understand this argument. The top two of English football has changed into the top 6, instead of just Utd winning the title we now have Leicester, Chelsea, lfc, City, Utd winning the title. I would say the league is so much better (Record pts tallies, better national game, new style of football) than it ever was. We are NOT a Germany or Spain where only the famous clubs win things.
Only the clickbait press with their clickbait teams say it isnt.
Sorry to say but PL football has never been healthier.
By football, I mean what we watch on TV commercially, as a game I can't get behind Sheikhs taking over clubs like City and them making a mockery of culture and everything clubs such as Barca and United have historically earned by no means of a Sheikh but a well run football club that was rewarded through hard work and tough decisions. Putting rivalries aside I'd have vastly more respect for Liverpool than City or PSG. A player such as Messi joining the PSG's and City's is a big red flag for me. He's someone that pretty much every football fan could never dislike and pretty much defined what we all live about the game when watching him play. The sport itself I will still love, I play a bit of football here and there myself, sorry I wasn't fully clear there.
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If Messi was joining City in 2010 your arguments are valid. City aren’t a small club anymore, no matter how much you want to think that. This past decade has changed that. They will continue to grow in stature as long as their owners don’t sell the club. They are also one of the top 5 clubs in terms of worth today. They win trophies every year. If they win one Champions League it will really cement their place as one of the top if not the top club in football today.
That's an absolutely beautiful sentence.
You love to fall for the PR charm of these mega money football clubs. First RB Leipzig now even City. "Great infrastructre", "fantastic youth academy", "out of the box thinking". It all comes down to that: Money, money and again money.
It`s like a billionair claiming to have an eye for innovation because a start-up he bought has grown 10 times its size when in fact he had bought 100 start-ups with 99 going to shit and one making it.
All this "progressive" creation of a modern football club has been built upon an infinte amount of cashflow, no matter what spin you put on it. And despite all this progressive thinking they`re still burning through immense amounts of transfer net spent.
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