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It'd be really interesting to see how Pep manages to rotate that talent if they sign another player who'd be free of rotation risk

KDB, Aguero and Messi will be starting most games. I'm assuming Fernandinho/Rodri/Gundogan will be fighting for one midfield slot. Then they're having Sterling who's likely going to play 80% of games as well
So, that would leave Bilva, Foden, Mahrez, Torres all fighting for that last spot. Surely, they'd have to let someone leave in that case
If Messi joins then I think two of Jesus / Bernardo / Mahrez will leave.
 
And proof, if they needed it, that forward thinking all those years ago with Txiki, Sorriano and Pep has been vindicated. You don't do business like signing Pep and Messi without having structure and direction.
I think you misspelled unlimited amount of money. You give me that amount of money I will give you the same outcome.
 
I think you misspelled unlimited amount of money. You give me that amount of money I will give you the same outcome.
Nah they’ve also clearly planned well. Look at the money we’ve spent and where it’s got us.
 
From a football results point of view Im genuinely not fussed. Hes 33 so only 1 way to go and thats decline. He also doesnt look to be the insane physical condition Ronaldo is. He is the best ever for me but the only question is will he decline quickly or slowly.
From a non results point of view its a nightmare though. Messi at City and the media love in is just unbearable.
If I was betting I still think hell stay at Barca though
 
This is more of an off the field move by City as much as it is on it.

Signing the GOAT proves they're now a legit club in Europe. It'll go down in history that he played for Barca AND City... what a shame.

I hope this is all just a power move but it seems like he's truly had enough of the Barca board and is really considering it.
 
Nah they’ve also clearly planned well. Look at the money we’ve spent and where it’s got us.
A plan which anyone can execute with unlimited amount of money.
If you give Ed unlimited amount of money, he too can buy Sancho, Grealish, Dayot, VDB, havertz and one other just for fun. Then he can buy Pep's brother another football club to get Pep at United. It really is that easy.
 
This is more of an off the field move by City as much as it is on it.

Signing the GOAT proves they're now a legit club in Europe. It'll go down in history that he played for Barca AND City... what a shame.

I hope this is all just a power move but it seems like he's truly had enough of the Barca board and is really considering it.

No one will remember the City part. Does anyone really remember Jordan for playing for Washington?
 
I think you misspelled unlimited amount of money. You give me that amount of money I will give you the same outcome.

No. City has spent their money excellently and built an incredibly professional and innovative football club, probably top in the world level. Sentiments aside, City currently is the club Barca should be. There are enough reasons to despise City, no need to create fictive ones. You can criticize how they accomplished it but the end product should be the bench mark for every top club out there. You can argue that the way they earned the money they spent unfairly but the way they spent it should show the way for every big and rich club that can generate the necessary profits organically.
 
A plan which anyone can execute with unlimited amount of money.
If you give Ed unlimited amount of money, he too can buy Sancho, Grealish, Dayot, VDB, havertz and one other just for fun. Then he can buy Pep's brother another football club to get Pep at United. It really is that easy.
Tbh were not far of them spending wise in the last few years...
 
United spent similar amounts...
From a different starting position. Plus as the emails revealed City staff are getting double payments in certain instances. It is fair to assume that is a feature of how they operate to circumvent FFP.
 
No. City has spent their money excellently and built an incredibly professional and innovative football club, probably top in the world level. Sentiments aside, City currently is the club Barca should be. There are enough reasons to despise City, no need to create fictive ones. You can criticize how they accomplished it but the end product should be the bench mark for every top club out there. You can argue that the way they earned the money they spent unfairly but the way they spent it should show the way for every big and rich club that can generate the necessary profits organically.
I see history has been rewritten. No mention of all the flops listed in the article below. That is a very poor transfer return. Bayern is the bench mark and it is not even close.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...r-news/man-city-best-worst-transfers-15129236
 
No one will remember the City part. Does anyone really remember Jordan for playing for Washington?
Yes and the only reason a lot of people know Washington wizards exist is because he played there
 
It sucks that Pep is at City otherwise he may of come here im hoping he goes to PSG I couldnt stand seeing him in a City shirt
 
From a different starting position. Plus as the emails revealed City staff are getting double payments in certain instances. It is fair to assume that is a feature of how they operate to circumvent FFP.
Exactly so it makes sense that they should have spent more since they had to play catch up. So how is it that we spent not that much less and been a million times less successful?

To be perfectly honest we have probably spent as much as City have on players on servicing debt and financing the Glazers personal ventures. I know where I would rather that money was going.


We have bigger issues at the club than worrying about Citys spending. We should be more concerned about our own.
 
A plan which anyone can execute with unlimited amount of money.
If you give Ed unlimited amount of money, he too can buy Sancho, Grealish, Dayot, VDB, havertz and one other just for fun. Then he can buy Pep's brother another football club to get Pep at United. It really is that easy.
Very naive view.
 


this is the best deepfake ever haha.

It's a little scary how good tech is.. Any modern smartphone and an app can do that..
A little effort with the voice and it'll genuinely fool a lot of people.. especially from my parent's generation.
 
Exactly so it makes sense that they should have spent more since they had to play catch up. So how is it that we spent not that much less and been a million times less successful?

To be perfectly honest we have probably spent as much as City have on players on servicing debt and financing the Glazers personal ventures. I know where I would rather that money was going.


We have bigger issues at the club than worrying about Citys spending. We should be more concerned about our own.
Sorry I think you misunderstood. We only started spending after Fergie whilst city have continued spending obsene amounts since 2008. You have to take into account the market as well if you are considering the time from 2008. Aguero cost them around 24 mil, now the same Aguero would cost atleast 150 mil.
The biggest issue at the club is hiring of managers. If Ed had gotten Klopp he would be a considered a genius as we would have been on a better trajectory than even Liverpool as we have more money.
 
A plan which anyone can execute with unlimited amount of money.
If you give Ed unlimited amount of money, he too can buy Sancho, Grealish, Dayot, VDB, havertz and one other just for fun. Then he can buy Pep's brother another football club to get Pep at United. It really is that easy.

And which club has done something like that among the ones with unlimited amount of money?
 
Sorry I think you misunderstood. We only started spending after Fergie whilst city have continued spending obsene amounts since 2008. You have to take into account the market as well if you are considering the time from 2008. Aguero cost them around 24 mil, now the same Aguero would cost atleast 150 mil.
The biggest issue at the club is hiring of managers. If Ed had gotten Klopp he would be a considered a genius as we would have been on a better trajectory than even Liverpool as we have more money.

In the past decade (Including whilst Fergie was here) the spending figures are nor that far off. Something like 1.3bn for City and 1.0bn for United.
 
PSG bought Neymar and Mbappe in the one window.
Actually ruined the market for a long while after that

Which isn't the equivalent to what was written and no they haven't ruined the market.
 
PSG for one. City replaced their whole team in a few seasons. Real Madrid did even better than the players I pointed out.

At which point PSG signed the equivalent of the list of players you quoted?
 
Is it just me, or isn't Messi just as much to blame for this situation as Bartomeu and the board? I mean, he's been blackmailing the club on an almost annual basis into giving him a bigger and bigger contract and the board have been dancing to his tune since at least 2010.

And yet, everyone has sympathy for Messi - why? The guy, from what I can see, is a Grade A pillock, and if I was a Barca fan, I'd want to be rid of both him and Bartomeu and start afresh. Irrespective of how monumentally good he is, especially considering his age.

Barca have let a player become bigger than themselves as a club. And for an institution like Barca, that's beyond embarrassing, though perhaps it's in keeping with them. Considering how much they mythologised Cruyff...
 
I hope this doesnt happen. Would be fecking depressing if it does.
 
From a football results point of view Im genuinely not fussed. Hes 33 so only 1 way to go and thats decline. He also doesnt look to be the insane physical condition Ronaldo is. He is the best ever for me but the only question is will he decline quickly or slowly.
From a non results point of view its a nightmare though. Messi at City and the media love in is just unbearable.
If I was betting I still think hell stay at Barca though

Doesn't mean it'll be rapid. Messi is probably the most naturally gifted footballer of all time, look at footage of when be was a kid and you'd barely notice a difference in his style on the pitch, it all just came natural. So when we're talking about decline with Messi we're not exactly talking about your average world class footballer.
 
I see history has been rewritten. No mention of all the flops listed in the article below. That is a very poor transfer return. Bayern is the bench mark and it is not even close.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...r-news/man-city-best-worst-transfers-15129236

Pretending they aren't won't change that City are incredibly well run. It's not solely about transfers, it's about their infrastructure, training methods, scouting processes, youth teams and so forth. They've set the basis for long term success after Begiristain joined them. It's a very innovative and progressive club. Remaining in denial about that won't help you. Clubs need to get over the "they bought their success stage" and take a closer look. Yes, obviously they bought themselves to the top but that doesn't mean that there isn't much to learn from them.

And yes, Bayern is also incredibly well run by the way. Still, I'd give the edge to City. They're just that little bit more innovative and radical than Bayern. Liverpool is up there, too, by the way. Also Barca, theoretically speaking, since they've got great infrastructure, even football research facilities and lots of participations in startups, but there top level management is currently all over the place.
 
I think you misspelled unlimited amount of money. You give me that amount of money I will give you the same outcome.
We're second in spending to City. So why are Liverpool winning big trophies while we're fighting for top 4?

Money helps, and they're only relevant because of it. But you can't downplay the vision they have for their club.

They got Pep because they planned for it. Pep won them 2 very impressive titles and now is about to be a big reason they sign the second greatest of all time, which will have its own consequences for City the club and City the brand.
 
The Neymar and Mbappe window.

That wouldn't equal what you listed, you listed around 500m worth of players without the for fun player. But that's beside the point, PSG didn't build a good team around them and have had to sell a lot of young talented players in order to finance it since 2017, they also have no depth in most positions.
 
This is all done guys. It's really happening. Aguero has changed his username on insta and removed the 10 from his name. Freeing the number up for Messi
 
Who would have thought at the start of the window that City would not only sign Messi but it would happen before we make a single transfer.
 
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