No one in the modern age cares about that anymore. New generation of football fans will only support what they see on the pitch. Messi to Man City will elevate their brand a few levels higher.
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No one in the modern age cares about that anymore. New generation of football fans will only support what they see on the pitch. Messi to Man City will elevate their brand a few levels higher.
1m/wk is before tax, the amount the club have to pay to him. He is earning around 100m per year including endorsement, base salary and image rights etc
It’s such a risky investment. What if he gets a serious injury after a few games? would be such a shame for city if that happened
How did his insurance work at Barcelona? Did he ever have any long and major injuries?
Well he doesn’t have much injury issues in past 12 years or so. In fact, the lowest no. of games he has played over the past decade is this season, where he only played 44 games.
In average, he played around 52 games per season over past decade.
So no, I don’t think injuries would be much of a concern for Messi at all.
Big shame if Messi goes to City, it will tarnish his legacy going to a plastic club with plastic fans and having the Sheiks as your owner. Everything seems so fake and hollow. This will be a massive coup for City, would elevate their brand and team to a whole new level.
Yes, imagine going a club with less history than himself, less leagues, ucl than himself. What a disgrace.
Maybe in your mind it might tarnish his legacy but not in general. You think it tarnished the legacies of David Silva and Aguero when they moved to City? They will go down as two of the all time greats to play in the premier league even though they play for a plastic club.
Yes, he already has a taint without major success with National team, many would forgive for that, but I'd imagine entire Barcelona and most Laliga watchers / supportors would not like Messi going to a plastic club, also when recently La Liga president said City broke FPP.
The news that UEFA and La Liga will support Messi doesn't seems like it's true since both would like to have a go if they are not bribed.
Yeah, this plastic club thing hardly matters.
If he does move to City, maybe he'll have the chance to answer this pinacle question in life.
"Can Messi do it on a cold, wet Wednesday night in Stoke?".
Why wouldn't he?
Look at the pitch conditions he's played in this video and how good he still looks.
Not to mention his goalscoring record against english teams is really good
Of course he can. It was more of a rhetorical joke of question, Lord of Gifs.
Sad really.
We should try to grab him. He is still got couple of years of world class football in him, enough to make as back to the right track and we could slowly finish rebuilding. If he goes to Citeh, they will win everything and we will be here sitting and asking ourselves why we still have not bought Jadon
feck Messi and City. Let’s bring Ronnie home along with Sancho.
Did you actually answer that question earnestly?
City signing Messi will definitely be a massive statement. And his combination with Pep will raise both the club's profile and fortunes. I still doubt that it will happen though, this one will be heading to CAS before Messi packs his bags. I can also see him staying at Barca if and once the current hierarchy are booted out.
The awkward moment when Stoke isn't even in the Premier League.
Most people miss the point about Messi finding it hard in the PL.
He’s consistently shown that he can perform against PL in the CL, and his goal scoring record is fantastic.
The challenge would be the number of tough games everyone he has to play in the PL. there are far more competitive teams in the PL than any other league, and that’s the tough aspect.
So the question is whether he has the motivation to play at a high level and high intensity week in week out?
If he does join, it’s a shame about the timing, as clearly he would pack out every ground he plays at of it wasn’t for CV-19, there has obviously never been a bigger player join the PL.
I could even stomach him going to City so that an entire generation could watch him play in person, but given we unlikely to have crowds this year, it’s tipped my feelings to hoping he goes to PSG if he leaves.
He’s consistently shown that he can perform against PL in the CL, and his goal scoring record is fantastic.
The challenge would be the number of tough games everyone he has to play in the PL. there are far more competitive teams in the PL than any other league, and that’s the tough aspect.
So the question is whether he has the motivation to play at a high level and high intensity week in week out?
If he does join, it’s a shame about the timing, as clearly he would pack out every ground he plays at of it wasn’t for CV-19, there has obviously never been a bigger player join the PL.
I could even stomach him going to City so that an entire generation could watch him play in person, but given we unlikely to have crowds this year, it’s tipped my feelings to hoping he goes to PSG if he leaves.
I'm not understanding Barca fans' point of view here. Why are they protesting against the president? I know that he's done a rather shambolic job and would most likely be out next year. But would him resigning right now mean Messi stays?
Is there no question towards Messi's loyalty towards the club? From what I see, Messi considers himself above the club where he tells the club by fax that he doesn't want to stay, doesn't want them to get a fee for him and doesn't want to show up for training. Maybe I don't know the whole story but that's classic prima donna attitude. As a senior member of the team, he took no responsibility to ensure others (Griezmann) are settled well, he was quick to throw the new coach under the bus, on the back of giving away the title he blamed everyone but himself and is finally looking to walk away after one of the most humiliating results in the clubs history. The style of play also has to accommodate the fact that everything must go through Messi and he doesn't appear an equal part of the team.
I'm really curious to understand what Barca fans think of Messi's actions. Do they think he's justified to throw a strop around like this? Or would Messi's exit actually bring about some much needed balance in the team?
Is there no question towards Messi's loyalty towards the club? From what I see, Messi considers himself above the club where he tells the club by fax that he doesn't want to stay, doesn't want them to get a fee for him and doesn't want to show up for training. Maybe I don't know the whole story but that's classic prima donna attitude. As a senior member of the team, he took no responsibility to ensure others (Griezmann) are settled well, he was quick to throw the new coach under the bus, on the back of giving away the title he blamed everyone but himself and is finally looking to walk away after one of the most humiliating results in the clubs history. The style of play also has to accommodate the fact that everything must go through Messi and he doesn't appear an equal part of the team.
I'm really curious to understand what Barca fans think of Messi's actions. Do they think he's justified to throw a strop around like this? Or would Messi's exit actually bring about some much needed balance in the team?
Would love to see this happen, both.
@Nickelodeon do people still use fax these days? There is a fax in my office, but I can't remember when the last time we used it (the last one I used it was in 2010).
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It wasnt up to him to make sure Griezmann settles. I mean it was down to the coaches who should have played him in the right positions and so on. Barcelona wasted his best years with throwing money on players who didn't suit them or didnt know how to use them. Sure they won titles but it only masked big problems and he dragged the team for years but Bayern was too much.
I guess at this point its not about Messi leaving but about the shambolic presidency of Bartomeu.
Of course Messi will be great in the Premier league 
City will likely win the league every season he plays for them. Hell of an upgrade on Jesus
City will likely win the league every season he plays for them. Hell of an upgrade on Jesus
Ed can use him as a smokescreen now to get sancho for a cheaper price. See Dortmund we can buy Messi we don’t need sancho. What’s that he’s only 90m now? Deal
“I hate you dwarf, bitch traitor”
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A fan saying that Barça saved his life, making him rich, and then wishing him all the worst
FA and League Cups are your friends.
Of course Messi will be great in the Premier league
City will likely win the league every season he plays for them. Hell of an upgrade on Jesus
Has anybody commented on his potential decline now he's 33? I've not watched much of him recently...how is he playing? Difficult to judge I guess with Barcelona being shit. Sounds terrible but I'd almost take a couple of years of City winning the league to see Messi in the league...
They bought good players that everyone in the Caf would sell their body just to get them. Dembele, Coutinho, De Jong, Griezmann. I mean, how is it the President's fault that these players couldn't perform to their best?
Coutinho was never even close to being worth what they paid for him. Griezmann obviously wouldn't fit with the players that they already had. Many people called those two being flops. With them potentially having to rebuild their attacking line-up with Messi and Suarez possibly leaving, there is a fair chance Griezmann will come good with a different set-up.
All flop, I would save only De Jong
Genuinely surprised some people here think Messi would be a bad signing. For any club. From City's perspective, he'll make their brand grow and they'll be huge favourites to win 3 in a row plus some CL between.
That would be a perfect farewell for Klopp too!
That's for someone with crystal ball. Everyone thought those were great players and purchase, whether overpriced or not. Again, how the President is to blame? No team in the world would say no to these players at the time they were purchased.
The only thing i see is some "senior players" wanted a manager, that in his two years managing Barca had won treble and then double, to be out of their Club.
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Would he play CB? That’s where they need the most reinforcements to become “huge favourites” and also an out and out goal scorer like Aguero who will play less and less due to age and injury issues.
If the figures being quoted are correct, it would cost approx £700,00 to £900,000 a week in wages. That’s £36million a year at least (based on £700k a week) purely on wages. Not to mention a signing on fee if he is available on a free or a transfer fee if he isn’t.
Even a 33 year old messi isn’t going to recoup that kind of money.
I dont think he will be able to deal with the physical side of the prem at his age, it will lead to more injuries. People Will say “But he did well against a physical Atheltico Madrid team every season” etc but that’s two games. He’d need to deal with it from the likes of Burnley, Sheff United, Wolves, Palace, Brighton week In week out.
I think he’d be a great signing if he dropped his salary demands and waived the expected huge signing on fee but for me as things stand it isn’t great value for money. Saying that, I’d love to see him in the prem (Albeit this is probably 5 years to late) just not for a rival!
I think the only thing against Messi is not his ability or value as a statement it is the actual cost. Barca seem to believe they have a strong case for getting a fee, if he costs £200m +300m wages, then no I don't want us spending 500m on him
No they didn't. Just on this board there were plenty of people saying that they were poor purchases. Coutinho because he wasn't 'that' good, and Griezmann because he wouldn't fit. I know because I thought that myself and there were plenty of others both on this forum and I'm sure in others.
I might sound like a broken record but I feel he can keep going till 39/40. Once his physicality goes and he stops scoring 40-50 a season, he can drop deeper into midfield and be their play maker. This could be so much worse than just 2 years.
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