Sadly it happens rarely.
Lionel Messi
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Sadly it happens rarely.
I will never understand posts like this.
He can head a ball and that's it.
Ronaldo has become a very onedimensional player starting from about last season. Not much to his game at all other than trying to score a goal.
Football is all about winning, if you don't win you can't be the best regardless of how good you are, you can be head and shoulders the best in the world but if your team isn't the best team in the world that wins all the trophies then you as an individual regardless of how much better you are than any other player on the planet cannot be considered the best....
yeah you are right, it's retarded.
To be honest anyone still arguing Ronaldo's case needs to take off the red tinted specs.
Messi is just in a world of his own really....The best player in the world
Messi is just in a world of his own really....The best player in the world
Good because I never understood them about Ronaldo last year
Messi is the best player in the world.
But anyone who says, as i've heard, that this shows Ronaldo winning the awards last year is a joke needs a slap.
Messi was injured for half the season and Ronaldo top scored both his league and Europe. So Ronaldo last year had the better season, and that's what these awards should be given for.
Messi has had the best season for any player in Europe so should walk away with the awards. Although expect some comedy votes from places like Malaysia voting for Terry.
But anyone who says, as i've heard, that this shows Ronaldo winning the awards last year is a joke needs a slap.
Messi was injured for half the season and Ronaldo top scored both his league and Europe. So Ronaldo last year had the better season, and that's what these awards should be given for.
Messi has had the best season for any player in Europe so should walk away with the awards. Although expect some comedy votes from places like Malaysia voting for Terry.
With our defence in the present state, we re very lucky not to have faced Messi yesterday...
I mean we made Porto's forward line look like world-class, when in fact they are a bunch of above-average players..
I mean we made Porto's forward line look like world-class, when in fact they are a bunch of above-average players..
totally agree,this isnt even debatable Messi is by far the best player in the world and hes on his way to be the best since Maradona.
32 goals in 41 games now and he has set up 15. Quite an unbelievable return from the little magician this season. The worrying thing is it isn't like he is the only one scoring or the team are only setting him up, Eto'o has 31 goals in 39 games and Henry has an average 22 in 35 
Too much nonsense in this thread, people seem hell bent on comparing him to C.Ronaldo and all this BS about only if Messi does X,Y and Z they will rate him, bloody hell grow up FFS. Last season C.Ronaldo was the best player and this season Messi is, both are unique players and very different players. Much of Ronaldo's game is built on his raw pace and power whereas Messi is built upon the (almost) fact that getting the ball off him is near enough impossible!
Both are superb players in their own right, come on now lads everyone kiss and make up
Too much nonsense in this thread, people seem hell bent on comparing him to C.Ronaldo and all this BS about only if Messi does X,Y and Z they will rate him, bloody hell grow up FFS. Last season C.Ronaldo was the best player and this season Messi is, both are unique players and very different players. Much of Ronaldo's game is built on his raw pace and power whereas Messi is built upon the (almost) fact that getting the ball off him is near enough impossible!
Both are superb players in their own right, come on now lads everyone kiss and make up
You delusion never ceasesThat is because you think everyone is biased fan boy like you. I'm a Bayern fan and I can tell you Bayern were not shite. Barcelona made them shit. Best performance I've seen by a champions league side since the Ajax team of 95. And that booking was a clear joke. The ref probably wanted Bayern to feel good or something.Messi is just a better player than anyone else right now, typically it's bayern that are shite, it's lyon that are shite. Both lyon and Bayern are better than Porto. Messi was the main man again with 2 goals and an assists, although the 4th was all his good work as well. Only denied a hat-trick by his own player at the end.
He also got booked for diving which i'm sure cal chief and co will think was the correct decision
Respect.
32 goals in 41 games now and he has set up 15. Quite an unbelievable return from the little magician this season. The worrying thing is it isn't like he is the only one scoring or the team are only setting him up, Eto'o has 31 goals in 39 games and Henry has an average 22 in 35
Too much nonsense in this thread, people seem hell bent on comparing him to C.Ronaldo and all this BS about only if Messi does X,Y and Z they will rate him, bloody hell grow up FFS. Last season C.Ronaldo was the best player and this season Messi is, both are unique players and very different players. Much of Ronaldo's game is built on his raw pace and power whereas Messi is built upon the (almost) fact that getting the ball off him is near enough impossible!
Both are superb players in their own right, come on now lads everyone kiss and make up
NEVAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR!
Let's be honest Chief, Bayern are a bit shit.
United's 7-1 win was probably a better performance than this.
uae summed it up brilliantly before. But then again apparently he needs to learn english.
You're just so childish Chief.
i like how he laughs at me
TO be fair Bayern were fecked at the back.
But as for performance, the way Barca controlled the match was brilliant. United against Roma was pure demolition, everytime united got the ball they scored. If barca scored every chance they had in that game it would have been 7-0 at half time....
That's true. Roma are slightly better than Bayern though. Anyway this Barca team is frighteningly good, I know the CL is a bit of a lottery but if they don't win the CL this year they would've to consider it a bit of a failure.
The CL is very unpredictable, United shouldn't be struggling against Porto yet right now they are in a very difficult position.
Roma were and are not a better team than Bayern.
I respectfully disagree. Roma never had the pedigree of Bayern even though they are an Italian team. So unlike that result this was a thrashing of a fellow giant.
In addition Bayern were not really that shit. Because the few times Bayern managed to launch successful attacks they rattled Barca's defence. I remember in one incident Puyol had to make a fantastic tackle to stop a certain goal.
However Barcelona were simply stupendous in midfield. That is why the made Bayern look so shit. So dominant were they that Bayern could hardly escape their 18 yard box without losing the ball to Barca's midfield. & since they obviously can't defend like a United or Chelsea at their best they were done for trying to contain Barca's front 3. It didn't help also that Oddo who is real slow was playing right back.
IMO the only sides in Europe that could cope with Barca's midfield right now are Cheslea because of Essien and Liverpool if Mascherano is in the mix. Beyond that, no team without a world class enforcer in the center of the park can live with them.
If you honestly believe you interpreted what I said correctly you really have issues.
Roma clearly are better than Bayern. Bayern have more of a European pedigree but Roma are the better team.
They're not even top of the Bundesliga. Imagine the Premiership without Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool and United coming fifth. The gulf between United and the rest of the teams in terms of resources is about the same as the gulf between Bayern and other German teams.
That is because you think everyone is biased fan boy like you. I'm a Bayern fan and I can tell you Bayern were not shite. Barcelona made them shit. Best performance I've seen by a champions league side since the Ajax team of 95. And that booking was a clear joke. The ref probably wanted Bayern to feel good or something.
you think so? imo manchester united 7-1 roma was a better performance than yesterday`s game
Roma are not a better team than Bayern......other than DeRossi, their other players are unlikely to start for Bayern.
Messi was brilliant in the game but so were Eto'o, Xavi, Henry and Iniesta.....they had 5 quick skillful players breaking into the box, interchanging positions and attacking - almost impossible to contain.
Messi might be the best in the world at the moment but the other 4 attackers at Barca are probably the best in the world in their positions as well. The frightening potency of their attack made it a lot easier for Messi to dominate plus Klinsmann playing a no-mark young fullback against one of the best players in the world.
Fair enough. I just feel though that humiliating a fellow footballing giant is of greater impact than doing it to up and commers.
That Roma team was just as strong as that Bayern team.
Definitely. Totti, in particular, was in fantastic form throughout that season.
Don't forget that we lost to Roma away that season.
So was most of their entire team to be fair. What United did to them that night was thus quite mind boggling too.
Thus what United did to them......
This will help.
And please refrain from ever telling other people they need to learn english ever again, thanks.
This will help.
And please refrain from ever telling other people they need to learn english ever again, thanks.
Messi is the best player in the world. Last season it was Ronaldo. I'm surprised there is even a debate as to who is the best player in the world. It's kind of obvious who is.
Well clearly it's not, I mean every single side Messi's played is rubbish and therefore it doesn't count. Plus he's got a huge checklist of what he needs to do, for example he needs to have a massive drop in form but still score goals and play on with huge injuries too.
+ other nonsense.
+ other nonsense.
Doni > Butt
Panucci > Oddo
Mexes < Demichelis
Chivu >> Breno
Cassetti = Lell
Mancini < Schweinsteiger
Pizzaro = Van Bommel
De Rossi > Ze Roberto
Wilhelmsson << Ribery
Totti > Toni
Vucinic > Altintop
To put it simply, Roma are better right through the spine of their team, and that's what makes the difference.
Panucci > Oddo
Mexes < Demichelis
Chivu >> Breno
Cassetti = Lell
Mancini < Schweinsteiger
Pizzaro = Van Bommel
De Rossi > Ze Roberto
Wilhelmsson << Ribery
Totti > Toni
Vucinic > Altintop
To put it simply, Roma are better right through the spine of their team, and that's what makes the difference.
Ronaldo must have scored the majority of his goals against the top teams last season so.
So your saying liverpools 5-0 win against madrid was more impressive then us beating roma 7-1?
I would disagree. I would say that madrid side over both legs were crap and if they're the second best team in spain then I don't know what's going on
United were losing the roma tie I think. We made them look ordinary and this is a roma team who over recent years beat madrid at their home ground and beat them well
I think munich were poor but that might be because of the injuries. It also might say munich are not as good as some people think at this stage.
Definitely.
32 goals in 41 games now and he has set up 15. Quite an unbelievable return from the little magician this season. The worrying thing is it isn't like he is the only one scoring or the team are only setting him up, Eto'o has 31 goals in 39 games and Henry has an average 22 in 35
Too much nonsense in this thread, people seem hell bent on comparing him to C.Ronaldo and all this BS about only if Messi does X,Y and Z they will rate him, bloody hell grow up FFS. Last season C.Ronaldo was the best player and this season Messi is, both are unique players and very different players. Much of Ronaldo's game is built on his raw pace and power whereas Messi is built upon the (almost) fact that getting the ball off him is near enough impossible!
Both are superb players in their own right, come on now lads everyone kiss and make up
Good post until you got sloppy
No. Madrid are a very poor team this year. Bayern and Roma are much stronger than they believe it or not. A look at their respective champions league results this season can tell you this.
If it was REAL under Capello I would agree it was more impressive.
Trust me it was all down to Barca being good. The way we were against Roma. Blitz-krieg at it's brilliant best.
Come on Brwned just admit that you're a Liverpool fan. The 7-1 win over Roma was far better than Liverpool's lucky 5-0 win over Madrid.
Probably the best performance by a club side in Europe over the last decade.
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