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Lionel Messi
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i see ... ok
I dunno how this one will turn out. However if there is one single chance United can get him instead of all of that shit about Bale, I say go ahead. I know a couple of Barcelona fans, twin girls BTW, who would be a little pissed if that happens anyhow.
I hope you went home amol.
I sure did. Wait, what?
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/21/lionel-messi-may-leave-spain-tax-barcelona-football
Messi for £100m? maybe with the promise he will eventually be teamed back up with Pep in a few years.
Ronaldo for £80m or so to join the party and retire in style.
maybe buy a defender at some point.
Messi for £100m? maybe with the promise he will eventually be teamed back up with Pep in a few years.
Ronaldo for £80m or so to join the party and retire in style.
maybe buy a defender at some point.
His tax evasion problems are another parallel with Maradona. What a genius little footballer he is and so was Maradona? I hope he comes here to United
If he were to leave i'd sell half our squad to get him. Not very often the best player in the world becomes available to buy, and especially during what should be his peak years.
Mourinho and Messi together - a match made in heaven. Make it happen Roman.
Mourinho and Messi together - a match made in heaven. Make it happen Roman.
Tweet of the year
another day
another record
another record
Amazing.
Another record to follow mid-week?
hope so
but i seriously think that when this CL is over Ronaldo will be holding that record
Real Madrid have a lot more chances on going all the way than barcelona passing the first round of the knock out stages
At the end, Messi will hold all the records considering he is 3 years younger (I think) than Ronaldo.
Barcelona looked a lot better whenever he was on the right. I'd even say Messi looked better on the right, where he got to cut in with the ball already at his feet.
Not sure what their tactic overall was as at times Suarez was playing out right and they instantly looked pretty limited.
Not sure what their tactic overall was as at times Suarez was playing out right and they instantly looked pretty limited.
They are now trying to make him 'happy'. PR stunt worked
This was probably the best of the lot today. The free kick was also great, which incidentally was the 1st set-piece goal by Barca this season.
New game, new record.
I don't think that's certain. Ronaldo has spent the last few years getting better and better while Messi is on a small but obvious decline of sorts (he's still better than all but Ronaldo but there is no denying its a decline from where he was).
I can see Ronaldo doing "a Giggs" and playing until he is 40 such is the hunger and desire to be the best ever, Messi on the other hand I can see retiring in his early 30's.
I'm speculating of course and will probably be wrong but that's how I see it playing out, injuries aside.
They are different players. Messi works much harder for his goals than Ronaldo. I can definitely see Ronaldo still banging them 5 years from now, especially playing for Real Madrid, Messi on the other hand, don't know if he'll be able to score as many goals in 3 years.
Also if the trend of penalties keeps going the way it is going right now (8 for Ronaldo and 1 for Messi this season in all competitions) then I don't think Messi will have chance.
Every touch in that 3rd goal is perfect. It is like a perfectly crafted artwork.
Messi should be able to prolong his career better than Ronaldo given he's a better footballer than him. Ronaldo needs his physique to be absolutely up there. Messi has so much else to his game.
If messi has has to be a attacking central midfielder or a pure number 10, he would still be one of the best around.
I don't think how long you play defines being the best ever, though. You have to have the ability and performance levels.
Yeah Ronaldo will probably just keep going as a striker with no work rate in his old age just because of his passion. I could see Messi calling it a day as soon as he starts to decline physically just because he will have done it all already.
What is there left to say?
Enjoy it while it's there folks. For those that have never seen him in the flesh, book the tickets to Barcelona and go see him play at the Camp Nou before it's too late.
Enjoy it while it's there folks. For those that have never seen him in the flesh, book the tickets to Barcelona and go see him play at the Camp Nou before it's too late.
the best ever.
He's pretty good at the aul football.
I refuse to watch those videos because of the shitty advertising and will also boycott the products.
Perfect Free-kick
He comes across as a bit high maintenance with all this "love me bollocks" it's a shame because he doesn't need to do that. He's such a class player and the goal for his hat trick was fantastic.
Phenomenal player I dont think we'll see the likes of him any time soon. Look for him to cross 300 goals in the next couple of years.
Yeah, I refuse to believe he is a humble guy. Its impossible to be humble if you are like him. Most of the world is saying you are the best guy to have ever kicked a ball, and you stay humble?
I really don't see that at all
Ronaldo is 6'2" and built like a shit house, he's not getting fat any time soon. He'll still be lithe and svelt hanging around a pool somewhere in speedos at the age of 60.
When Messi's spark has gone and he loses that yard to take it past players or create space, Tonaldo will still be in the box shouldering someone off the ball or leaping above them to head it in.
What a player he is. You just have to love him for what he does with the ball at his feet. He is an absolute joy to watch, deserves every one of his awards and records.
how's that?
Messi is not only a goalscorer for Barcelona, but their most important playmaker as well. He's starting most of Barcelona's attacks, including most of the ones he himself end up finishing. Ronaldo on the other hand is another type of player, he's a ruthless finisher but he's not a playmaker.
It's much harder to keep up your goalscoring record (especially when you're getting older) when you're also the most important playmaker in the team.
I tend to agree with that more or less, though that's not to say Cristiano isn't capable of being more team-oriented and participating in build-up (cf. at Utd pre-2008, and his debut season at RM, also this season so far he's been playing more "broadly") -- however, Messi at his finest is on a different level when it comes to participation in all different phases of play (but especially chance creation through passing and/or dribbling) in my opinion.
I'd describe the difference in their goalscoring as Cristiano being more dependent on "traditional" service (ie. direct chance creation from the MF and other FW, e.g. crosses, through balls, pullbacks, etc.), whereas Messi is probably more dependent on the system (ie. control of the game by the MF which results in a more indirect type of chance creation, e.g. team mates creating space for him through decoy runs, and chance creation where he himself is more involved, e.g. one-twos).
Probably about right. He has to work harder to score in the current Barcelona set up. Pretty much always creates his own goals or is heavily involved in the build up when he brings others in and always has to play in front of 11 men, dropping deeper to pick up the ball and cover the midfield's attacking deficiencies. Ronaldo's turning into the ultimate poacher, but he moves alot more than Messi to get into the spaces to score his goals, has the freedom of the pitch in Real Madrid's quick, counter attacking system.
Hard to predict who will end up with more goals though. Real will inevitably decline at some point just as Barcelona did, and Barceona can only improve.
Hard to predict who will end up with more goals though. Real will inevitably decline at some point just as Barcelona did, and Barceona can only improve.
ok, i see your point
but i also think that if you find him an appropiate partner, he can score a lot more goals
how devastating a team with ronaldo and messi would be?
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