Lionel Messi

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We've become desensitized to Messi's genius. Any other player scores that, and we go crazy. If it's Messi we just yawn.

That is the problem now adex. He has scored every type of goal imaginable apart from an overhead kick, and those goals that look difficult he takes with ease. Should another star score as many spectacular goals as he does, then we would be drooling. When he does it now, it is as if it is just a normal goal. What is normal for him is extraordinary for others and we'd be talking for weeks on end. If he ever scores with an overhead kick with his right foot, then I think that will be the cherry on the top.
 
I just like the way he simply passes the ball to the right with apparent ease. If that had been me with that many players around me, I would have done a Heskey and lost the ball. Messi is coolness personified, and don't be surprised to find him playing Batmans arch-rival Mr Freeze when he retires.

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I hear ya, I don't need 6 players closing me down to blow it - one suffices. I think that fluidity & close control in tight spaces is an aspect to his game that gets overlooked.

Pep made the MJ comparisons and it does bear some similarity - often times he simply picks & chooses his moments to accelerate at the defense. Both started out just going 100mph and defenses adjusted - then they did
 
How is Messi doing on the international stage these days?

Last I remember he was struggling to perform for Argentina but that was years ago now.

As you may have guessed, I don't really follow Argentina.
 
How is Messi doing on the international stage these days?

Last I remember he was struggling to perform for Argentina but that was years ago now.

As you may have guessed, I don't really follow Argentina.

12 goals in 9 games for Argentina last season.
 
How is Messi doing on the international stage these days?

Last I remember he was struggling to perform for Argentina but that was years ago now.

As you may have guessed, I don't really follow Argentina.

He needed to score one more goal in 2012 to beat Batigols record of 12 international goals in a year. He equalled it instead, by going from a player who had a 0.3 goals per game for Argentina with Maradona and all the other managers, to a player who has scored 12 goals in 9 games or 1.33 goals per game.
 
How is Messi doing on the international stage these days?

Last I remember he was struggling to perform for Argentina but that was years ago now.

As you may have guessed, I don't really follow Argentina.

At just over 25 he has bagged over 30 goals for Argentina. Some are very harsh when it comes to Messi and internationals.
 
At just over 25 he has bagged over 30 goals for Argentina. Some are very harsh when it comes to Messi and internationals.

That may to something to with failing again and again at every major tournament finals.
 
That may to something to with failing again and again at every major tournament finals.

He was a player that was played in the wrong position up until Maradona decided to give up the job. He has a manager now that knows how to use Messi and his abilities to the maximum. What you fail to realise is that ever since Maradona left, Messi has got better. 12 goals in 9 internationals speaks volumes about the strides he has made to up his game in internationals. His hattrick goal against Brazil which was in no way an easy match, speaks volumes about his ability. I think when we see Pipita, Aguero, Tevez and Messi together in the next world cup, they will go far.
 
i personally could care less if messi wins a world cup or not. it will not take away from his legacy.

the world cup is not the pinnacle of football for me and it is more a cultural/political event than a proper football tournament.
 
How many goals has the bestest player the world has ever ever seen scored in World Cup finals? 1 in 2 tournaments?

Who has scored the most amount of goals in a World Cup final tournament? Is he still remembered, do you still remember him? Whether he wins one or not, his legacy will always be there. As Bill Shankly once stated:

"First is first, second is nowhere" - Bill Shankly
 
How many goals has the bestest player the world has ever ever seen scored in World Cup finals? 1 in 2 tournaments?

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Who has scored the most amount of goals in a World Cup final tournament? Is he still remembered, do you still remember him? Whether he wins one or not, his legacy will always be there. As Bill Shankly once stated:

Fontaine with 13?

First is first and internationally Messi has not been first...
 
i don't know

let me guess ... as many as the second (ronaldo) and the third (iniesta)? or one goal less?

feck! he has been overshadowed :eek:

Great, I was just talking about Messi's poor record in WCs and you have to talk about you-know-who and Hectic will blame me again. :rolleyes:
 
Fontaine with 13?

First is first and internationally Messi has not been first...

Correct about Fontaine. A brilliant player he was too. Internationally, Messi was, and I stress the word "was", since his game is getting better and better in internationals. It won't be long before he breaks Batistutas record too.

Great, I was just talking about Messi's poor record in WCs and you have to talk about you-know-who and Hectic will blame me again. :rolleyes:

Incorrect, marcos mentioned both you-know-who and Iniesta in the same sentence.
 
Incorrect, marcos mentioned both you-know-who and Iniesta in the same sentence.

How was that incorrect? If you talk about 10 different things, does it mean you didn't talk about one of those things? :wenger:
 
How was that incorrect? If you talk about 10 different things, does it mean you didn't talk about one of those things? :wenger:

What do you expect? You need to accept that whatever you say about Messi will always be wum-based and you get picked up on it. I dislike Ronaldo, and I admit to it, but he has had a good few years where if Messi hadn't been around, then he might have won the Ballon D'Or another couple of times. Do you have anything nice or constructive about Messi?
 
What do you expect? You need to accept that whatever you say about Messi will always be wum-based and you get picked up on it. I dislike Ronaldo, and I admit to it, but he has had a good few years where if Messi hadn't been around, then he might have won the Ballon D'Or another couple of times. Do you have anything nice or constructive about Messi?

The thing is, this thread is called "Lionel Messi", and I've stuck to discussing Messi in it, not dragged you-know-who into the debate (recently anyway), yet I always get blamed for it for some reason, when the likes of you insist on mentioning him in this thread.

This thread is not called "Worship Lionel Messi" or "Messi - Praise Only" or words to that effect. Are we not allow to criticize him ever? Are we only allowed to say nice things about him in this thread?

Get the title changed to "Messi worship only" and I'll stay away.
 
You've got a point there Cal. But feck it you've made your bed here, may as well sleep in it.

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LOL at Cal, he'll be crying in his sleep for months now.

Cal, answer this: who is the best player in the world? And who is better, Messi or Ronaldo . One word answers please.

I bet you still can't even do it.
 
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