Lionel Messi

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club wise he played 327 games, scoring 252 goals and assisting 101 times

so he was directly involved in 353 goals in 327 games

101 isn't up to date, is it? I remember allas releasing a "Messi 100 assists" video like 2 months ago. Must be a bit more than that by now.
 
What's the most ever assists?

No one knows. Assists haven't been counted for that many years. No even during the whole PL era have they been counted.

Messi had 1 assist more last season than he has now in the league. Currently he's one behind Özil (if the source I'm looking at has the correct numbers that is).
He's got 88 assists for Barcelona in his career according to their own statistics (which I imagine are very accurate).
 
Those are some amazing figures. We're privileged to see these two machines in their prime, enjoy it, as I don't think we'll witness a rivalry of this kind again in our lifetime. Cue the Messi fanboys saying it's not a rivalry at all.
 
No one knows. Assists haven't been counted for that many years. No even during the whole PL era have they been counted.

Messi had 1 assist more last season than he has now in the league. Currently he's one behind Özil (if the source I'm looking at has the correct numbers that is).
He's got 88 assists for Barcelona in his career according to their own statistics (which I imagine are very accurate).

See that's what's really remarkable. He's seen off Madrid's most prolific goalscorer (ever?) while keeping pace with their most creative player, in terms of assists. Despite Barca losing the bloke they signed to convert Messi's passes for almost half a season. Unreal. He's smashing records for scoring goals but that's only half the picture.
 
He's a transformational player unlike any other. Me going out on a limb two years ago to call him the greatest ever doesn't seem so far fetched now.
 
50 league goals is beyond unreal. Add to the picture his assists and...:lol:

Barca are becoming too reliant on Messi though. It costed them vs Chelsea when he wasn't at his best.
 
funny how you disapeared from this thread Cal?

just before ronaldo missed that penalty against bayern munich :lol:

we miss you cal, we really do :angel:

Actually I posted in that Ronaldo v Bayern thread a few times AFTER he missed the penalty.

Anyway, looks like the reverse of last season. One player has the La Liga title and the other has the Pichichi, as was pointed out to me many times last season, winning La Liga is a much bigger deal than scoring multiple goals against the cannon-folders of La Liga. Non? :angel:
 
See that's what's really remarkable. He's seen off Madrid's most prolific goalscorer (ever?) while keeping pace with their most creative player, in terms of assists. Despite Barca losing the bloke they signed to convert Messi's passes for almost half a season. Unreal. He's smashing records for scoring goals but that's only half the picture.

Seen off? As in score 2 hat-tricks in a week after bottling the 3 biggest games of the season and bottling a penalty that cost his side their last chance of a major trophy??

When you-know-who went on a scoring spree after losing out on the title last season, most of you wrote it off as "meaningless". Funny how 1 year changes everything when the other guy has won the title. :smirk:
 
Yes. Seen off.

Now get back in your box. Odd-ball.

I'm sure your guy is happy with the Copa del Rey as the only thing he has to show for this season (if he even wins that without bottling another penalty). :smirk:
 
Actually I posted in that Ronaldo v Bayern thread a few times AFTER he missed the penalty.

Anyway, looks like the reverse of last season. One player has the La Liga title and the other has the Pichichi, as was pointed out to me many times last season, winning La Liga is a much bigger deal than scoring multiple goals against the cannon-folders of La Liga. Non? :angel:

the reverse of last season? how? ronaldo will win the champions league?

i think not! :smirk:
 
Messi has had the better individual season just like he did last season. Simple as that, and that's why he'll pick up the Ballon D'or again.

We all saw in 2010 how ludicrous that award is, are you seriously telling me Messi had a better 2010 than Sneijder or Xavi? :lol:
 
Seen off? As in score 2 hat-tricks in a week after bottling the 3 biggest games of the season and bottling a penalty that cost his side their last chance of a major trophy??

When you-know-who went on a scoring spree after losing out on the title last season, most of you wrote it off as "meaningless". Funny how 1 year changes everything when the other guy has won the title. :smirk:

Is this guy forgetting Ronaldo missed a penalty in the shootout between Madrid and Bayern. Or does that not count?

Seriously though, Cal, you should just stop looking at Messi as some rival to your loverboy the whole time and just appreciate what an awesome player he is.
 
72 goals in a season is incredible. He'll probably top it next year too.

I remember the days when Henry and RVN would get around 30ish goals. I though that was amazing. Then Ronaldo bagging 42 at United seemed impossible... 72 is out of this world.
 
Is this guy forgetting Ronaldo missed a penalty in the shootout between Madrid and Bayern. Or does that not count?

Seriously though, Cal, you should just stop looking at Messi as some rival to your loverboy the whole time and just appreciate what an awesome player he is.

One penalty miss directly resulted in elimination, the other one played a part but Madrid would probably have lost anyway with Kaka & Ramos missing too. Spot the difference.

Anyway, I just want to point out how ludicrous some of the people on this very thread sound creaming themselves over Messi's scoring record this season.

Exactly 12 months ago, I was repeatedly told scoring multiple goals against the lesser lights of La Liga meant feck all once the title has gone, funny how 12 months changes everything? Now scoring 7 goals after Madrid has sealed the title is some kind of miracle?
 
This absolute determination to undermine Messi...it's impressive!

Can't understand it, though. Must admit, I'm pretty much what many would call a 'fanboy' for Messi...but it's understandable. Though Iniesta and Xavi are a delight to watch, I'll watch the Barcelona games just because he's playing. Although I want Barcelona to lose whenever they play, I sure as hell want to see Messi play well. He is a joy to watch, and we'll probably never see anyone like him again. To not enjoy watching him play (which you surely cannot do if you're so obsessed with pitting him against Ronaldo, or trying to undermine his performance) is to miss out on one of the greatest delights and joys in football minus anything to do with your own club, isn't it?

Again, that goal for his hattrick yesterday was absolutely mental. It was weird in that you knew he was going to pull it off, but it didn't make it any less ridiculous when it went in.
 
This absolute determination to undermine Messi...it's impressive!

Can't understand it, though. Must admit, I'm pretty much what many would call a 'fanboy' for Messi...but it's understandable. Though Iniesta and Xavi are a delight to watch, I'll watch the Barcelona games just because he's playing. Although I want Barcelona to lose whenever they play, I sure as hell want to see Messi play well. He is a joy to watch, and we'll probably never see anyone like him again. To not enjoy watching him play (which you surely cannot do if you're so obsessed with pitting him against Ronaldo, or trying to undermine his performance) is surely to miss out on one of the greatest delights and joys in football minus anything to do with your own club isn't it?

Please do explain why Messi scoring a load after Madrid have won the title this season is somehow so impressive compared to Ronaldo doing the same after Barca have won the title last season, which apparently "means feck-all".
 
It shows the extent of your argument when you resort to penalties. I could make an argument for Darren Bent being better than Messi based in penalties. Ronaldo missed one for us in the CL final as well, very nearly cost us. He obviously bottles them when they mean the most.
 
It shows the extent of your argument when you resort to penalties. I could make an argument for Darren Bent being better than Messi based in penalties. Ronaldo missed one for us in the CL final as well, very nearly cost us. He obviously bottles them when they mean the most.

Let's see, a penalty given during both games in the CL semi 2nd leg. Both, if scored, would put their team into a winning position in the tie.

One was scored, the other was missed.
 
Please do explain why Messi scoring a load after Madrid have won the title this season is somehow so impressive compared to Ronaldo doing the same after Barca have won the title last season, which apparently "means feck-all".

Didn't say anything about Messi's scoring in context of anything, nor do I remember comparing him to Ronaldo.

I'm not going to either - I remember Hectic giving out pretty obvious warnings to anyone who did, so I'm keeping my mouth tightly shut here! What I will say, and it's obviously been said a million times, is that talking of Messi just in terms of goals is so reductive that it seems somewhat absurd. He could score half as many and still have a valid claim to being the greatest footballer of all time, I'm guessing.
 
Let's see, a penalty given during both games in the CL semi 2nd leg. Both, if scored, would put their team into a winning position in the tie.

One was scored, the other was missed.

:lol:
 
Let's see, a penalty given during both games in the CL semi 2nd leg. Both, if scored, would put their team into a winning position in the tie.

One was scored, the other was missed.

feck. You've got me there mate. Ronaldo, based on that, is quite clearly the best player ever ever.
 
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