Lionel Messi

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Brwned i say worse to people face to face than i say on here because i know i'd get banned more than likely and i quite enjoy the debate and banter.

YOu see i dont need to be proven right, i know i'm right. The only enjoyment i get out of being proven right is seeing how much it irks others, cal and co.

Over Lionel Messi?!
 
Brwned i say worse to people face to face than i say on here because i know i'd get banned more than likely and i quite enjoy the debate and banter.

YOu see i dont need to be proven right, i know i'm right. The only enjoyment i get out of being proven right is seeing how much it irks others, cal and co.

You're not serious, are you?
 
Messi being a better player than Ronaldo. I dont know how it's even debatable.

Yes, he's a better player.

Entirely irrelevant to the point I was making so I don't know why you'd bring it up.
 
Brwned i say worse to people face to face than i say on here because i know i'd get banned more than likely and i quite enjoy the debate and banter.

YOu see i dont need to be proven right, i know i'm right. The only enjoyment i get out of being proven right is seeing how much it irks others, cal and co.

200+ serious posts in this thread hardly suggests someone who knows he's right.

And I'd say between you and Cal, it'll be more amusing to see your reaction if Ronaldo outperforms Messi in La Liga. ;)
 
You would think walking into this thread you would see quite a few Messi clips,highlights,goals etc not just discussions over Ronaldo

One wonders if this is the worst Messi thread in the history of Messi threads. It is just now floating in an agonizing state of confusement and bewilderment as the same lame arguments have been going in circles for over 100 pages
 
Messi being a better player than Ronaldo. I dont know how it's even debatable.

The amount of things you don't know in life is quite frankly, frightening... :smirk:

I firmly believe Ronaldo is the better player and will prove that this season.

Care to put your money where your message box is?
 
You would think walking into this thread you would see quite a few Messi clips,highlights,goals etc not just discussions over Ronaldo

One wonders if this is the worst Messi thread in the history of Messi threads. It is just now floating in an agonizing state of confusement and bewilderment as the same lame arguments have been going in circles for over 100 pages

i'd happily make such a thread but you do realize it would be completely over taken with people talking about Ronaldo.

For every clip of Messi there would be 5 of Ronaldo and so on and so forth.

I really hoped that when Ronaldo got his dream move he'd appear less and less in these threads.
 
The amount of things you don't know in life is quite frankly, frightening... :smirk:

I firmly believe Ronaldo is the better player and will prove that this season.

Care to put your money where your message box is?

it was you wasnt it. I made a bet with you at the start of the year and you said Ronaldo would get 40 goals again! I should have known you muppet!!! :lol:
 
i'd happily make such a thread but you do realize it would be completely over taken with people talking about Ronaldo.

For every clip of Messi there would be 5 of Ronaldo and so on and so forth.

I really hoped that when Ronaldo got his dream move he'd appear less and less in these threads.

You assumed that people only argue that Ronaldo is better because he played for United.

Now he doesn't play for United, I still believe he's better than Messi.
 
it was you wasnt it. I made a bet with you at the start of the year and you said Ronaldo would get 40 goals again! I should have known you muppet!!! :lol:

No, I don't recall making any such bet. However, if you can show me some proof...

Anyway, do you want to bet on who'd score more in La Liga this season?
 
What can i say Cal? you are loyal to "your boy Ronaldo" just like SAF, admirable if it wasnt pathetic considering he's wanted nothing more than to leave for about 2 years...

I'd rather not make a bet with you Cal?, you wouldnt admit to being wrong and you wouldnt admit to Ronaldo being anything other than the greatest thing ever. It's something wrong in your head, like a switch is stuck. Do you get an electric shock when you hear someone talk about Ronaldo in anything but glowing teenage girl style praise?
 
No, I don't recall making any such bet. However, if you can show me some proof...

Anyway, do you want to bet on who'd score more in La Liga this season?

I still think Barcelona have a superior team which would play a key part. As long as Madrid play Raul (He is past it and is probably the slowest striker in world football at the moment and hinders the front line overall even if he does score a fair few) upfront whilst Barcelona are playing Zlatan or Eto'o and as long as Madrid are utilizing Gago (no real engine, gets shown up for it in big games countlessly) to dictate midfield whilst Barcelona are unleashing Xavi and Iniesta, Madrid can not compete.

If Madrid do bring in Xabi Alonso and ease Raul slowly out of the team I think the service would be perfect for Ronaldo to score more than Messi because I think he does offer a better goal threat.
 
What can i say Cal? you are loyal to "your boy Ronaldo" just like SAF, admirable if it wasnt pathetic considering he's wanted nothing more than to leave for about 2 years...

I'd rather not make a bet with you Cal?, you wouldnt admit to being wrong and you wouldnt admit to Ronaldo being anything other than the greatest thing ever. It's something wrong in your head, like a switch is stuck. Do you get an electric shock when you hear someone talk about Ronaldo in anything but glowing teenage girl style praise?

What does any of this have to do with being a better football player?
 
What can i say Cal? you are loyal to "your boy Ronaldo" just like SAF, admirable if it wasnt pathetic considering he's wanted nothing more than to leave for about 2 years...

I'd rather not make a bet with you Cal?, you wouldnt admit to being wrong and you wouldnt admit to Ronaldo being anything other than the greatest thing ever. It's something wrong in your head, like a switch is stuck. Do you get an electric shock when you hear someone talk about Ronaldo in anything but glowing teenage girl style praise?

Hmm... over those 2 years we've won the Champions League and moved ahead of the Scousers to become the most successful club in England. :smirk:

You wouldn't bet with me because my opinion doesn't agree with your version of facts? Funny that, if everybody agreed with everyone, there'd be nothing to bet on. :lol:
 
I still think Barcelona have a superior team which would play a key part. As long as Madrid play Raul (He is past it and is probably the slowest striker in world football at the moment and hinders the front line overall even if he does score a fair few) upfront whilst Barcelona are playing Zlatan or Eto'o and as long as Madrid are utilizing Gago (no real engine, gets shown up for it in big games countlessly) to dictate midfield whilst Barcelona are unleashing Xavi and Iniesta, Madrid can not compete.

If Madrid do bring in Xabi Alonso and ease Raul slowly out of the team I think the service would be perfect for Ronaldo to score more than Messi because I think he does offer a better goal threat.

There are some risks to it, but I think Ronaldo's ability to score is quite ahead of Messi, hence he'd still finish ahead in the scoring even when playing for a lesser team.
 
Probably Cal? Messi isnt there to score goals. I wouldnt be surprised if Ronaldo did manage more goals. But then i'd imagine an out and out striker would score more, Eto'o/Ibra, Benzema etc.

I thought a big part of your claim was that Messi scored 38 goals (or something) this past season and is therefore the bestest player in the world or something?

Surely he should be able to do it again, especially playing in a better team than Ronaldo. :smirk:
 
Nope, using stats was to prove to you, personally i dont give a shit about stats in football. I watch the game and believe it or not i've thought players who didnt score a single goal OR create one have been MOTM before. I know the concept is alien to you but for me it happens.

Messi has and never will be all about goals.
 
I find it hilarious that, even at this stage of the thread, Messi is still being analysed in terms of his goals. :lol:

Messi could've scored under 30 goals last year, and he still would've had a season superior to that of Ronaldo throughout 07/08.
 
And Cal? has just exploded.

But it is true, I considered Messi the greatest talent since F. Ronaldo before he was scoring almost every game. The fact he is now looking as prolific as anyone suggests he's an even better player than I thought.

In my very humble opinion.
 
I find it hilarious that, even at this stage of the thread, Messi is still being analysed in terms of his goals. :lol:

Messi could've scored under 30 goals last year, and he still would've had a season superior to that of Ronaldo throughout 07/08.

Another Messi lover, Ronaldo 07/08 was clearly better than Messi last season.

The fact that the rest of the Barca team last season is better than the rest of the United team the year before should be clear enough to everyone.
 
Another Messi lover, Ronaldo 07/08 was clearly better than Messi last season.

The fact that the rest of the Barca team last season is better than the rest of the United team the year before should be clear enough to everyone.

I'm no Messi lover, but there is no way Ronaldo was `clearly` better than Messi. Ronaldo's performances in 06-07 are much closer to Messi's last season than 07-08.
 
I know I'm right. In this matter, it doesn't matter what the stats are. It doesn't matter what everybody thinks. I got this gut feeling that can't be shaken off. I know it's right because I believe it. Nothing anybody says will prove that I'm wrong.

'Franklyvulgar is a WUM and a wanker. Since he's a WUM, nothing he says can be taken seriously'.

Prove me wrong FranklyVulgar. See, if you don't prove me wrong, you'll become a wum and a wanker.

Sorry to say, your argument that Messi is better has boiled down to an argument like this.
 
Could we actually be witnessing the greatest player ever?

Seriously, could he one day be regarded as an all time great?

My tip - YES.

Just heard that he returned from vacation early because he missed playing football. Great player shame we won't see him in a United shirt.
 
This thread is deteriorating again:lol:

Agreed

To enliven it somewhat somebody need to suggest to Cal that Thierry Henry has eclipsed both in terms of medals and is in fact the better than Ronaldo

I guarantee this thread would then achieve heights never before seen on the cafe.

Make it the Henry > Messi > Ronaldo thread

Of course not to forget that any player having won more than two league title medals, say for example Nicky Butt, Tony Adams, Ray Parlour, Gary Neville are all better players than the severely undecorated fat Ronaldo - who it seems is some nonentity from the south american continent :wenger:

This would help to raise the blood pressure of the mighty Cal and inflame him enough to warrant a colossal outpouring of wrath from the dungeons where the said Manchester United warrior lurks in deepest Hong Kong

...........play away :devil:
 
Agreed

To enliven it somewhat somebody need to suggest to Cal that Thierry Henry has eclipsed both in terms of medals and is in fact the better than Ronaldo

I guarantee this thread would then achieve heights never before seen on the cafe.

Make it the Henry > Messi > Ronaldo thread

Of course not to forget that any player having won more than two league title medals, say for example Nicky Butt, Tony Adams, Ray Parlour, Gary Neville are all better players than the severely undecorated fat Ronaldo - who it seems is some nonentity from the south american continent :wenger:

This would help to raise the blood pressure of the mighty Cal and inflame him enough to warrant a colossal outpouring of wrath from the dungeons where the said Manchester United warrior lurks in deepest Hong Kong

...........play away :devil:

:lol: The same Thierry Henry who is near the end of his career.

Let's talk about how Maldini & Giggs are the 2 best players ever ever on the planet...
 
I know I'm right. In this matter, it doesn't matter what the stats are. It doesn't matter what everybody thinks. I got this gut feeling that can't be shaken off. I know it's right because I believe it. Nothing anybody says will prove that I'm wrong.

'Franklyvulgar is a WUM and a wanker. Since he's a WUM, nothing he says can be taken seriously'.

Prove me wrong FranklyVulgar. See, if you don't prove me wrong, you'll become a wum and a wanker.

Sorry to say, your argument that Messi is better has boiled down to an argument like this.

I am a WUM and a wanker, nothing i say should be taken seriously....

Why would i prove you wrong? i'm a wum with retards like yourself and cal, what do you expect? It is impossible to have discussion with such blinkered individuals.

Any reasonable discussion this thread had was gone as soon as someone brought Ronaldo into it, looking back it wasn't even 10posts old when someone came out with "WHAT!!!! BUT.... RONALDO!!!!" brilliant.
 
I am a WUM and a wanker, nothing i say should be taken seriously....

Why would i prove you wrong? i'm a wum with retards like yourself and cal, what do you expect? It is impossible to have discussion with such blinkered individuals.

Any reasonable discussion this thread had was gone as soon as someone brought Ronaldo into it, looking back it wasn't even 10posts old when someone came out with "WHAT!!!! BUT.... RONALDO!!!!" brilliant.

Anyone who doesn't agree with your blinkered view that Messi is the best thing since internet are "retards"? :wenger:

Any reason discussion in this thread went out the window when you refuse to admit that whatever you think about Messi is YOUR OPINION and NOT a FACT!!!
 
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