Life after ETH — the next United manager

If we sack ten Hag who would you want as manager?

  • Massimiliano Allegri

    Votes: 24 1.7%

  • Rúben Amorim

    Votes: 289 21.0%

  • Michael Carrick

    Votes: 33 2.4%

  • Roberto de Zerbi

    Votes: 18 1.3%

  • Thomas Frank

    Votes: 70 5.1%

  • Sebastian Hoeneß

    Votes: 59 4.3%

  • Eddie Howe

    Votes: 6 0.4%

  • Simone Inzaghi

    Votes: 66 4.8%

  • Andoni Iraola

    Votes: 36 2.6%

  • Thiago Motta

    Votes: 8 0.6%

  • Julian Nagelsmann

    Votes: 256 18.6%

  • Graham Potter

    Votes: 26 1.9%

  • Ruud van Nistelrooy

    Votes: 30 2.2%

  • Marco Silva

    Votes: 8 0.6%

  • Xabi Alonso

    Votes: 217 15.8%

  • Xavi

    Votes: 58 4.2%

  • Kieran McKenna

    Votes: 81 5.9%

  • Unai Emery

    Votes: 90 6.5%

  • Fabian Hürzeler

    Votes: 1 0.1%
  • Total voters
    1,376
Guardian seem to be running with the story that Frank is favourite, yet Ornstein and co seem to think we're deep into negotiations with Amorim? Granted I definitely trust the latter more over the Guardian (especially after that clown Steinberg dropped the ball on Ten Hag being sacked in the summer).
 
Kaos said:
Guardian seem to be running with the story that Frank is favourite, yet Ornstein and co seem to think we're deep into negotiations with Amorim? Granted I definitely trust the latter more over the Guardian (especially after that clown Steinberg dropped the ball on Ten Hag being sacked in the summer).
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Jamie Jackson reported that a few hours ago. Clearly wasn't accurate.
 
Not sure whoever we bring in stands a chance, truth be told.

I said as much when Ole left, when Ten Hag signed on, and I’ve seen very little to change my mind.

A good pay day and opportunity for some sap out there, if anything.
 
Cheesy said:
City/Liverpool have shown in recent years it's still good to have managerial stability if you can find it - the model of a heavily involved, long-term manager isn't exactly dead, it's just not the be all and end all.
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To an extent yes but it is success=longevity. While a lot of our fans seem to believe longevity=success.

I think United to see success under 2-3 short term managers over a period of years for the fanbase to finally get the pining for another Fergie out of their system.
 
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I can't accept a manager that is younger than me. It makes me uncomfortable.
 
Kag said:
Not sure whoever we bring in stands a chance, truth be told.

I said as much when Ole left, when Ten Hag signed on, and I’ve seen very little to change my mind.

A good pay day and opportunity for some sap out there, if anything.
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Why?
 
Dans said:
My take is that ETH got a new contract simply to buy the club some time to find a new manager. I think the short term heir apparent is RVN. He's a club legend, has won a league in Holland and comes across like a football person rather than a farmer. I think ETH loses his job close to December time, RVN takes over and gets an audition if you like, but he may again be a play for time, unless he orchestrates a massive turn around and we see a team playing as they should be able to, qualifying for the CL in the process.
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I was one month out and I am sooooooo pleased I was.
 
Kag said:
Not sure whoever we bring in stands a chance, truth be told.

I said as much when Ole left, when Ten Hag signed on, and I’ve seen very little to change my mind.

A good pay day and opportunity for some sap out there, if anything.
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The structure is entirely different now. Ten Hag almost feels like the last of the old bunch to go. He didn't work within the structure that has been set within Manchester United and INEOS. The next manager will most certainly fit the mould, and if we don't come good then it's on INEOS. I get the feeling though that they know what they are doing given their staffing appointments to date.
 
Kag said:
Not sure whoever we bring in stands a chance, truth be told.

I said as much when Ole left, when Ten Hag signed on, and I’ve seen very little to change my mind.

A good pay day and opportunity for some sap out there, if anything.
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Why do you chose to believe this when it's not true? Liverpool fans said this for 30 years and then they got Klopp. City fans said it for 60 years, and then they got Pep. Chelsea fans didn't know success until Jose came along.

The managers we've and aren't anywhere near as good as those names. Let's find one and see what happens. Every managerial change is a chance at finding the right manager instead of some joker who doesn't know what he's doing.
 
Here is the list of qualities the new manager needs to have. Not exactly easy to find.

1. Leadership
2. Tactical knowledge
3. Strong communication
4. Discipline
5. Adaptability
6. Decision-making
7. Player development focus
8. Emotional intelligence
9. Resilience
10. Vision
11. Passion
12. Media savvy
13. Team-building ability
14. High standards
15. Game management
16. Patience
17. Strategic planning
18. Analytical skills
19. Motivational skills
20. Integrity
 
crossy1686 said:
Why do you chose to believe this when it's not true? Liverpool fans said this for 30 years and then they got Klopp. City fans said it for 60 years, and then they got Pep. Chelsea fans didn't know success until Jose came along.

The managers we've and aren't anywhere near as good as those names. Let's find one and see what happens. Every managerial change is a chance at finding the right manager instead of some joker who doesn't know what he's doing.
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You ask and answer. City, Liverpool and Chelsea fans had low expectations, which made life easier for the new manager.

We expect wins from day 1, “we” the fanbase of the biggest club in the world. And not winning means dramatic headlines from the media that we love to read.
 
Mr Anderson said:
Hopefully Amorim can quickly gain the confidence and trust from the players. Feels like we may need someone with a bit more experience (as in the traditional top 4-6 leagues) and weight behind them. Erik was of the same guild from the Dutch league, especially a mid season appointment - you need to galvanise quickly to build momentum.
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The players want to buy in, they want to win. If he comes in with some great ideas and starts winning games they'll trust him. If his ideas are shit and don't translate well to the PL then he'll be in trouble.
 
DLE said:
You ask and answer. City, Liverpool and Chelsea fans had low expectations, which made life easier for the new manager.

We expect wins from day 1, “we” the fanbase of the biggest club in the world. And not winning means dramatic headlines from the media that we love to read.
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Our fans have accepted mediaocracy, our standards right now are lower than they ever have been at Liverpool in the last 30 years. Ten Hag was under little to no pressure from the match going fans.

The expectation of winning comes from backing the manager to the tune of £800m over 3 summers. How many other clubs get to do that and expect to lose games all the time?

Who gives a shit what the media say? Do you need them to say nice things to be happy with United? Their praise means nothing, they've been celebrating City for the last 10 years.
 
Noc-Z said:
There is absolutely no one out there that I really fancy for the job. Unai Emery is the only one I'd go, OK. I'd also have Mourinho back.
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I like Unai Emery as well. Has done a brilliant job at Aston Villa.
 
crossy1686 said:
Why do you chose to believe this when it's not true? Liverpool fans said this for 30 years and then they got Klopp. City fans said it for 60 years, and then they got Pep. Chelsea fans didn't know success until Jose came along.

The managers we've and aren't anywhere near as good as those names. Let's find one and see what happens. Every managerial change is a chance at finding the right manager instead of some joker who doesn't know what he's doing.
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We literally appointed one of those "names" 12 months after he won the Premier League.
 
I wouldn't mind xavi, considering how much people on here rate arteta, I see xavi better than him and has actually won a league title, he has also managed at a massive club that probably comes with even bigger pressure and ambition than united and he is still at his peak and not on a downward slope like lvg and mourinho were
 
DLE said:
Here is the list of qualities the new manager needs to have. Not exactly easy to find.

1. Leadership
2. Tactical knowledge
3. Strong communication
4. Discipline
5. Adaptability
6. Decision-making
7. Player development focus
8. Emotional intelligence
9. Resilience
10. Vision
11. Passion
12. Media savvy
13. Team-building ability
14. High standards
15. Game management
16. Patience
17. Strategic planning
18. Analytical skills
19. Motivational skills
20. Integrity
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21. Firm Butt
22. Strong hairline
23. Sharp wit
24. Deep, blue eyes
25. Ability to projectile vomit on command
 
Stobzilla said:
Based on his Ajax side and the football he was playing there, he was a stand out candidate. He just chucked all of that in the bin as soon as he turned up, how do you even legislate for that as a club?
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He really wasn't there were too many questions but the sane people were shouted down by people blind to the fact he was fifty still in the Dutch league and he inherited most of that Ajax team.

As for the football he managed a team that outspent it's rivals ten to one. There would be something wrong if they couldn't look decent.

He was a bad choice and a lot of people knew that at the time but the hipster vote was louder.
 
Telsim said:
I don't know, man, many were adamant Yoro wasn't choosing United over Real Madrid and there was no way United would get him. Well, that's not what happened. I don't believe he will come either, but if there ever was a time it's probably now. Far enough from 2026 and with little happening international wise. He might decide to instead come back into the club game rather than twiddle his thumbs for months.
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Can he be a club manager and national team manager at the same time ?
 
DLE said:
Here is the list of qualities the new manager needs to have. Not exactly easy to find.

1. Leadership
2. Tactical knowledge
3. Strong communication
4. Discipline
5. Adaptability
6. Decision-making
7. Player development focus
8. Emotional intelligence
9. Resilience
10. Vision
11. Passion
12. Media savvy
13. Team-building ability
14. High standards
15. Game management
16. Patience
17. Strategic planning
18. Analytical skills
19. Motivational skills
20. Integrity
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It's like finding 20 qualities for the perfect wife.
 
Kag said:
Not sure whoever we bring in stands a chance, truth be told.

I said as much when Ole left, when Ten Hag signed on, and I’ve seen very little to change my mind.

A good pay day and opportunity for some sap out there, if anything.
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If that's you're attitude I don't know why you even bother watching honestly. Couldn't fathom such a pessimistic view on everything
 
lsd said:
He really wasn't there were too many questions but the sane people were shouted down by people blind to the fact he was fifty still in the Dutch league and he inherited most of that Ajax team.

As for the football he managed a team that outspent it's rivals ten to one. There would be something wrong if they couldn't look decent.

He was a bad choice and a lot of people knew that at the time but the hipster vote was louder.
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I'd love to know who your choice was at the time if you consider Ten Hag the "hipster vote" when he was at Ajax and admired by majority of the footballing world.
 
Speako said:
Strongly looking like Amorim now, let’s hope he proves us right. It’s a big step up, so we’ll see. Quite right though, we simply needed to move on from ETH and quickly.
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The good thing is we're not faffing about. Straight to the no.1 manager choice, who im SURE we've spoken to previously.

People shitting on Ineos for reaching out to managers last season, but if they hadn't we wouldn't be moving so fast.
 
I hope ETH gets hired quickly and buys some of the shit he bought while here. Zirkzee, Antony, Mount, hell we’ll even throw in Rashford and Bruno for the right fee.
 
Invictus said:
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The Best Statistical Choice To Be The Next Manchester United Manager
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I wonder if INEOS were using this algorithm as well :lol:
 
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