No, it's not. It's weird and unhealthy and I'm sorry if that makes you feel morally dubious.
Also, who would love someone they don't know and presumably aren't related to? Genuinely interested here.
Let's all laugh at England
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Also, who would love someone they don't know and presumably aren't related to? Genuinely interested here.
Sorry - reading a lot of different views and opinions. I agree with you.
This is demonstrably false, they conceded two penalties. France never really went into this additional gear you 'felt' was available to them. I guess we all see what we want to see!
I have absolutely zero problem with people rooting against England and enjoying it when they lose, United fan or otherwise. Rivalries and not liking a particular team is a completely normal part of sport. I disagree with people trying to disassociate United from anything to do with being British/England, though, particularly on ridiculously spurious grounds such as the owners not being English. I also don't think bringing up Brexit or colonialism is good natured - there's loads of perfectly good lines of 'banter' to rib England with without that sort of crap.
The top clubs didn't employ English managers until you and Newcastle have taken a chance with Potter and Howe.
Kane has one more chance in a World cup. France 2023, rugby union , he'd get them 3pts any way.
Spot on.
there has been talk about him becoming an American football kicker. Maybe he was getting in his practice?!Well said. Take the Banter goes both ways, if you don't like it, don't read the thread.
On top of that most of us probably don't support United because they are an English team but for completely different reasons, because we really liked a player that played for United or in my case because United beat the German team I dislike the most in the most memorable and amazing way in a CL final.
And just for the record, I don't dislike the English either, just all the national team fans who aren't United supporters.
I know. I am actually quite chilled about the result last night, we put up a good fight, which is more than some teams have. Was more disgruntled about losing the Euros final. Some England fans are always going to moan, that is more than likely down to a superiority complex regarding England's place in the world. They will never change.
There’s always next time. Is it 50 years of hurt now? EDIT no 60
You could find thousands of instances in the CAF of a poster expressing their love for a player. Hint. They might not absolutely and truly mean it from the bottom of their heart.
Not sure if your a WUM but if not please remove that stick from your arse
Not sure if your a WUM but if not please remove that stick from your arse
They did. As soon as England equalised they stepped it up and created 2 better chances in no time than England managed all game. France will feel they've handled a good team professionally and reasonably comfortably, the same as if they'd dispatched of other teams from a tier below the best international sides
Sums up my thoughts.
Ah, OK, so you agree that actually hating someone that you don't know is weird and unhealthy then?
What things are allowed?
Brexit benefit - became a French citizen five years ago because of it and have a chance of winning two World Cups in five years - cheers to the xenophobic morons
I agree with the bolded, but, again, the unbolded end to the sentence is demonstrably false given that the difference was a missed pen. Nothing comfortable about that.
Oh dear. Showing the true colours now
Which ones specifically?
Those that voted for Brexit.
We didn't build that wall for nothing you know.
Most people on here didn't vote to leave though.
Because there’s no xenophobia, racism or imperialist history in France right? Or something.
What does this have to do with France beating England in a knockout game of football?
I was obviously joking but it does show how it can be received.
You also have to factor in that the England national football team don’t just consist of Manchester United players. As I am not an Englishman, in yesterday’s match I saw there Maguire, Shaw and Rashford, and I also saw there Varane. For me, Varane is much more likeable than Maguire, for example. Furthermore, I saw there Pickford, Walker, Henderson, Foden and so on. Due to the rivalry, these players are far more unlikable for me than the French players.
So, I think it is quite understandable that many of us not cheer England.
So, I think it is quite understandable that many of us not cheer England.
Absolutely. I think most in this thread can completely see this! I don't think anyone is arguing that united fans SHOULD support England. Just that it's a bit odd for fans of an English club to actively dislike the country itself and its people, given the clubs provenance.
Who said they did?
Of course there is but I didn't have to change nationalities because of it
I wouldn't be French and celebrating victory over England
I just don't think France would have been that worried about it going to extra time. Incredibly frustrated but confident they'd finish it. Overall it was an OK tournament for an ok England team and given the draw, a qf was the minimum expectation. A great group and a dream last 16 scenario once Holland won group A. Talk of winning it and the growing confidence chat was premature. As talented as they are, saka, Mount, rashford, stones, maguire, Henderson wouldn't start or feature much for the top teams at all
I'm so confused. So you were originally a British national that got a French passport, post-Brexit?
Nothing obvious in your statement and Im not that precious.
Maybe read it back next time before hitting send
I can’t post on the general forum so I’m going to put this here. I have come to a point in my life where I can’t go on. I am getting ready and I am going to drive up to the hills near my house and finish things. I have thought long and hard about it and there is no other option I can see apart from leaving. I just wanted someone to know before it happens . I am going to obviously message my family with the reasons. Enjoy life and don’t make major mistakes like I have.
Rather unnecessary
Couldn’t have said better.
I'm a British born person who's lived in France for 15+ years and who now has French nationality since 2017.
That last bit is where you’re getting the wrong end of the stick. Even in Ireland, where we have plenty of reasons to dislike England as a country, most of the antipathy to the England football team has nothing to do with how we feel about the country. I lived in England for 10 years. I have loads of English friends. I don’t hate England. I don’t even hate the England football team.
I do dislike a small minority of Ingerland fans, the type of fan that sings about the Second World War and smashed up the Landsdowne Road stadium when England played there. Feck those guys. But we all know the vast majority of England fans aren’t like that. We want the team to lose in an almost pantomime way. They’re the villains of the football world, like the wicked witch in the pantomime. Nothing personal. It just is what it is. It’s basically always enjoyable to see a team lose that is supported by fans who would dress up as crusaders to attend a tournament in the Middle East. That sort of hubris will always appeal to any neutral.
What the feck? Don’t do it man. Please.
I think we fundamentally disagree on various points. Mostly, this England team is better than ok (this is coming from someone that assumed France would terrorize us pre game). Also, all of this is, again, based on your 'thinking' that France wouldn't have been that worried about it going into extra time. Which, to me, is wrong. If this world cup has taught us anything, it's that once you're in extra time, all bets are off. The notion that France would have been comfortable is just untrue.