La Liga/Serie A/Bundesliga Draft

[Skizzo]

Bastard. I've had my eye on him since the start of the draft. Very interesting player and largely forgotten, which is why drafts like this make such a nice change of pace from the usual all-time pools. Ah well, you'll do him justice and you may have stopped me from foisting some suicidal game plan on @Skizzo

I can't imagine this would end your hopes of an unconventional game plan!

 

[Gio]

Bastard. I've had my eye on him since the start of the draft. Very interesting player and largely forgotten, which is why drafts like this make such a nice change of pace from the usual all-time pools. Ah well, you'll do him justice and you may have stopped me from foisting some suicidal game plan on @Skizzo

Initially I'd thought he might fly under the radar till the back-end of the draft, but seeing some of the shrewd picks coming through it was time to get him snapped up.

 

[Pat_Mustard]

I can't imagine this would end your hopes of an unconventional game plan!

I'm sober tonight so I'll likely be pretty conservative. Tomorrow night is a different story

Initially I'd thought he might fly under the radar till the back-end of the draft, but seeing some of the shrewd picks coming through it was time to get him snapped up.

Aye, its becoming increasingly difficult to bank on any player staying under the radar in these drafts. We'd have been backing ourselves into a corner formation-wise, but I doubt he'd have made it beyond our next two picks if you hadn't nabbed him now. As Skizzo well knows, when I develop a fetish for a player I'm like a dog with a bone

 

[Šjor Bepo]

am I the only one that doesn't rate Riquelme that high? (and probably LvG )

you are not alone mate, i also think he is a bit overrated.....very good player but not a great one. Cant play at the highest stage, to be precise - cant play in a top team.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Rui Costa over Riquelme any day.

 

[VivaJanuzaj]

you are not alone mate, i also think he is a bit overrated.....very good player but not a great one. Cant play at the highest stage, to be precise - cant play in a top team.

But he can definitely do a very good job with the calibre of players in this draft, he just needs the right setup to build the creativity around him with plenty of hard workers around him to allow him to do what he can. Seems like so far Tuppet is doing fine in that field just a matter of finding the right CMs to help him which is make or break in Riquelme's case.

Rui Costa over Riquelme any day.

Obviously imo

 

[VivaJanuzaj]

I actually think that he could've been very good for Edgar's team. In a midfield trio with Simeone and Cambiasso?

 

[Marty1968]

Rui Costa over Riquelme any day.

Absolutely. Loved watching Rui Costa and batistuta together at fiorentina. Glad both were blocked for this.

 

[Šjor Bepo]

But he can definitely do a very good job with the calibre of players in this draft, he just needs the right setup to build the creativity around him with plenty of hard workers around him to allow him to do what he can. Seems like so far Tuppet is doing fine in that field just a matter of finding the right CMs to help him which is make or break in Riquelme's case.

i didnt say he cant do a very good job, just said that i think he is a bit overrated in general and in my opinion he isnt a legend/great of the game even though plenty of people think otherwise.

 

[RedTiger]

Rui Costa over Riquelme any day.

Which is why I blocked him.

 

[Enigma_87]

I actually think that he could've been very good for Edgar's team. In a midfield trio with Simeone and Cambiasso?

Yes, that will work but really you have to build a team where he'll be the star going forward and to orchestra the pace and direction. You put another playmaker next to him like Pirlo and DM and that won't work. Put Rui Costa next to Pirlo and a DM and you have a brilliant midfield. For Riquelme to shine you have to sacrifice at least 2 positions with players that will click with him, rather than picking the best option.

Like I said I'm kinda surprised he was picked before at least 3 others in his position that IMO would make the team better(one in particular, different to one discussed on last page).

But let's see how Tuppet will use him and we can discuss it during the game.

 

[Enigma_87]

Absolutely. Loved watching Rui Costa and batistuta together at fiorentina. Glad both were blocked for this.

Only if Batigol was available

----Villa----Batigol----
--------Kaka------

 

[VivaJanuzaj]

Only if Batigol was available

----Villa----Batigol----
--------Kaka------

Only if Messi was available...

------------Eto'o--------------
Muller-------------------Messi

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

I think he's a great pick for this draft. He was a genius and his career was one big 'what could have been?'.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

I actually think that he could've been very good for Edgar's team. In a midfield trio with Simeone and Cambiasso?

For Riquelme to shine you have to sacrifice at least 2 positions with players that will click with him, rather than picking the best option.

He's a player who needs the game to pass through him. Surrounded by hardworking midfielder who can do the legwork and support him.

I think he's better in a diamond.

...... Eto'o.... Forlan.......
.......... Riquelme...........
Davids............. Gattuso..
.........Deschamps ..........

 

[VivaJanuzaj]

He's a player who needs the game to pass through him. Surrounded by hardworking midfielder who can do the legwork and support him.

I think he's better in a diamond.

...... Eto'o.... Forlan.......
.......... Riquelme...........
Davids............. Gattuso..
.........Deschamps ..........

Yeah that could also work fantastically, I just think that with Simeone & Cambiasso behind him he also gets a lot of hard work and defensive shield to compensate his lack of defensive giving-a-shit

 

[Ecstatic]

Mezut Ozil - Bundesliga 2006/10 - Schalke 04 and then Werder Bremen

Some achievements:

- Werder Bremen: 108 games in all competitions, scoring 16 goals and giving 55 assists
- DFB-Pokal in 2009
- Europa League Runner-up in 2009
- DFB-Pokal Runner-up in 2010

 

[Ecstatic]

1. KM /Cal? - 1. Zlatan 2. Reus 3. Buchwald 4. Albertini 5. Boban
2. Downcast/KirkDuyt - 1. Neymar 2. Yaya Touré 3. Falcao 4. Di Maria 5. Maicon 6. Ozil
   
3. Gio - 1. Nedved 2. Veron 3. Reuter 4. Deschamps 5. Puyol 6. Bratseth
   
4. Enigma_87/Snow - 1. Kaka 2. Villa 3. Lucio 4. Modric 5. Schneider 6. Marcelo
   
5. Crappycraperson - 1. Totti 2. Savićević 3. Bale 4. Kroos 5. Popescu 6. Jorginho
6. Joga Bonito/Balu - 1. Bergomi 2. Xabi Alonso 3. Dani Alves 4. Häßler 5. Forlán 6. Ferri
   
7. mazhar13/Boycott - 1. Shevchenko 2. Aldair 3. Donadoni 4. Luis Enrique 5. Cocu 6. Pique
   
8. VivaJanuzaj/MJJ - 1. Muller 2. Eto'o 3. Guardiola 4. T.Silva 5. Samuel 6. Abidal
9. RedTiger - 1. Ballack 2. Zambrotta 3 Ayala 4. Vidal 5. Aguero 6. Paulo Sousa
   
10. Aldo/The Stain - 1. Davids 2. Littbarski 3. Mendieta 4. Montero 5. Makaay 6. Henry
    
11. Marty1968 - 1. Seedorf 2. Costacurta 3. Berthold 4. Gattuso 5. Scholl 6. Benarrivo
    
12. Sjor Bepo/anant - 1. Stam 2. Alaba 3. Camoranesi 4. Godin 5. Gündoğan 6. Kluivert
    
13. Isotope - 1. Cafu 2. Weah 3. Ze Roberto 4. Mauro Silva 5. Hummels 6. Signori
14. Skizzo/Pat_Mustard - 1. Hierro 2. Ruggeri 3. Klinsmann 4. Bebeto 5. Moller 6. Chiellini
15. Tuppet - 1. R. Carlos 2. Zanetti 3. Voller 4. Ferrara 5. Riquelme 6. B. Laudrup
16. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1. Lizarazu 2. Sagnol 3. Vieri 4. J Boateng 5. Simeone 6. Cambiasso

Blocked Players:

Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Busquets, Romario, Redondo, Xavi, Rijkaard, Ronaldinho, Maradona, Messi, Luis Ronaldo, Cristiano Ronaldo, Robben, Ribery, Lewandowski, Van Basten, Baresi, Maldini, Matthaus, Nesta, Kohler, Van Nistelrooy, Suarez, Zidane, Buffon, Casillas, Neuer, Sammer, M. Laudrup, Gullit, Batistuta, Baggio, Pirlo, Stoichkov, Desailly, Thuram, Brehme, Tassotti, Iniesta, Koeman, Raul, Rui Costa, Del Piero, Figo, Rivaldo, Effenberg, Cannavaro, Makelele.

 

[Enigma_87]

He's a player who needs the game to pass through him. Surrounded by hardworking midfielder who can do the legwork and support him.

I think he's better in a diamond.

...... Eto'o.... Forlan.......
.......... Riquelme...........
Davids............. Gattuso..
.........Deschamps ..........

yeah that's what I had in mind when I said you have to sacrifice 2 positions to bed him in.

Either a diamond or 2 hard working wide midfielders (Laudrup is not one of them). Wonder how Tuppet will line them up.

 

[Ecstatic]

@Cal? @KM

 

[Tuppet]

yeah that's what I had in mind when I said you have to sacrifice 2 positions to bed him in.

Either a diamond or 2 hard working wide midfielders (Laudrup is not one of them). Wonder how Tuppet will line them up.

first Riquelme now Laudrup.  such mind games

 

[Theon]

Rui Costa over Riquelme any day.

I don't think it's that clear cut personally and agree with @Cutch that Riquelme is right up there with the very best in the mid-00's.

As good as Rui Costa was Riquelme was easily a better passer and it's only really Totti who I think can rival Riquelme in that sense in this draft. Riquelme was also more technical than Rui Costa and IMO a better dribbler, even though he had no pace to speak off his control of the ball was that good that it didn't seem to matter.

Clearly there are questions over his mentality and whether he needs the team to be built around him, but as long as he has a hardworking midfield and some pace/movement elsewhere in the offence then I think he's a great pick. I think he was better than most of the #10's picked before him personally.

 

[Enigma_87]

first Riquelme now Laudrup.  such mind games

Nah, I wouldn't bring back the discussion until Cutch quoted me.

With the new format really some of the picks have to be based on your picks, so I'm trying to figure your angle in advance

I don't think it's that clear cut personally and agree with @Cutch that Riquelme is right up there with the very best in the mid-00's.

that's a real stretch. Ronaldinho, Zizou, Kaka, Totti, Del Piero I don't see him coming anywhere near close to those names.

anyways my last post on the subject. We'll discuss it soon enough.

 

[VivaJanuzaj]

@Downcast won't you agree Ozil's best time definitely came in Spain or England? I mean he grew a lot as a player and improved his game by miles in his since leaving Bremen 6 years ago and a much more complete footballer.

 

[Ecstatic]

@Downcast won't you agree Ozil's best time definitely came in Spain or England? I mean he grew a lot as a player and improved his game by miles in his since leaving Bremen 6 years ago and a much more complete footballer.

Of course, he has improved in Spain but he didn't need time to be excellent. Indeed, he joined Real Madrid because he was brilliant in Germany in terms of assists/goals and impact on the game.
After Germany, he was successful because he is not a falling star.

To illustrate my point of view:

- 2009/10: more than 55 matches including ... 16 matches with Germany. He played very well during the WC 2010 (he scored against Ghana for instance).
- With Bremen, 108 games in all competitions, scoring 16 goals and giving 55 assists

We are not talking about a child but of a confirmed player in the Bundesliga league. This confirmed and talented Bundesliga player has succeeded in Spain because he left the country at the perfect age (not too young, not too old)

My choice is based on the following post and that is why, I have posted a video about his terrific performances with Bremen.

Ok so with all the ideas being thrown around...How about we scrap the draft as it is and we go for the PL/Serie A/La Liga draft.

Starting from scratch the rules would be:
- Each squad must consist of 4 players from each (if they played in more than 1 league the manager must specify which league they will represent when the selection is made and ability is based on this league, not career peak.
- No restrictions on whether a player played in more than one league
- Normal 16 team draft
- Before the draft commences 32 players will be blocked from any of the leagues (each manager chooses two players).
- Same age and nationality restrictions apply.

Any thoughts? All being in the same 16 team draft rather than a 'split-pot' will mean we're all in the same boat and nobody can moan (well a couple of you will still obviously!)

DFB-Pokal winner in 2009 + DFB-Pokal runner-up in 2010

He lost the final of the Europa League against Shakhtar

The Bremen player who saved Germany against Ghana :

 

[KM]

I'll pick Felipe Luis and Griezmann.

 

[KM]

1. KM /Cal? - 1. Zlatan 2. Reus 3. Buchwald 4. Albertini 5. Boban 6. Felipe Luis 7. Griezmann
2. Downcast/KirkDuyt - 1. Neymar 2. Yaya Touré 3. Falcao 4. Di Maria 5. Maicon 6. Ozil
   
3. Gio - 1. Nedved 2. Veron 3. Reuter 4. Deschamps 5. Puyol 6. Bratseth
   
4. Enigma_87/Snow - 1. Kaka 2. Villa 3. Lucio 4. Modric 5. Schneider 6. Marcelo
   
5. Crappycraperson - 1. Totti 2. Savićević 3. Bale 4. Kroos 5. Popescu 6. Jorginho
6. Joga Bonito/Balu - 1. Bergomi 2. Xabi Alonso 3. Dani Alves 4. Häßler 5. Forlán 6. Ferri
   
7. mazhar13/Boycott - 1. Shevchenko 2. Aldair 3. Donadoni 4. Luis Enrique 5. Cocu 6. Pique
   
8. VivaJanuzaj/MJJ - 1. Muller 2. Eto'o 3. Guardiola 4. T.Silva 5. Samuel 6. Abidal
9. RedTiger - 1. Ballack 2. Zambrotta 3 Ayala 4. Vidal 5. Aguero 6. Paulo Sousa
   
10. Aldo/The Stain - 1. Davids 2. Littbarski 3. Mendieta 4. Montero 5. Makaay 6. Henry
    
11. Marty1968 - 1. Seedorf 2. Costacurta 3. Berthold 4. Gattuso 5. Scholl 6. Benarrivo
    
12. Sjor Bepo/anant - 1. Stam 2. Alaba 3. Camoranesi 4. Godin 5. Gündoğan 6. Kluivert
    
13. Isotope - 1. Cafu 2. Weah 3. Ze Roberto 4. Mauro Silva 5. Hummels 6. Signori
14. Skizzo/Pat_Mustard - 1. Hierro 2. Ruggeri 3. Klinsmann 4. Bebeto 5. Moller 6. Chiellini
15. Tuppet - 1. R. Carlos 2. Zanetti 3. Voller 4. Ferrara 5. Riquelme 6. B. Laudrup
16. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1. Lizarazu 2. Sagnol 3. Vieri 4. J Boateng 5. Simeone 6. Cambiasso

Blocked Players:

Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Busquets, Romario, Redondo, Xavi, Rijkaard, Ronaldinho, Maradona, Messi, Luis Ronaldo, Cristiano Ronaldo, Robben, Ribery, Lewandowski, Van Basten, Baresi, Maldini, Matthaus, Nesta, Kohler, Van Nistelrooy, Suarez, Zidane, Buffon, Casillas, Neuer, Sammer, M. Laudrup, Gullit, Batistuta, Baggio, Pirlo, Stoichkov, Desailly, Thuram, Brehme, Tassotti, Iniesta, Koeman, Raul, Rui Costa, Del Piero, Figo, Rivaldo, Effenberg, Cannavaro, Makelele.

@Downcast @KirkDuyt

 

[Ecstatic]

Jörg Heinrich

Some achievements with Borussia Dortmund

• UEFA Champions League winner: 1996–97
• UEFA Cup finalist: 2001–02
• Intercontinental Cup winner: 1997
• Bundesliga champion: 1995–96, 2001–02

1. KM /Cal? - 1. Zlatan 2. Reus 3. Buchwald 4. Albertini 5. Boban 6. Felipe Luis 7. Griezmann
2. Downcast/KirkDuyt - 1. Neymar 2. Yaya Touré 3. Falcao 4. Di Maria 5. Maicon 6. Ozil 7. Heinrich
   
3. Gio - 1. Nedved 2. Veron 3. Reuter 4. Deschamps 5. Puyol 6. Bratseth
   
4. Enigma_87/Snow - 1. Kaka 2. Villa 3. Lucio 4. Modric 5. Schneider 6. Marcelo
   
5. Crappycraperson - 1. Totti 2. Savićević 3. Bale 4. Kroos 5. Popescu 6. Jorginho
6. Joga Bonito/Balu - 1. Bergomi 2. Xabi Alonso 3. Dani Alves 4. Häßler 5. Forlán 6. Ferri
   
7. mazhar13/Boycott - 1. Shevchenko 2. Aldair 3. Donadoni 4. Luis Enrique 5. Cocu 6. Pique
   
8. VivaJanuzaj/MJJ - 1. Muller 2. Eto'o 3. Guardiola 4. T.Silva 5. Samuel 6. Abidal
9. RedTiger - 1. Ballack 2. Zambrotta 3 Ayala 4. Vidal 5. Aguero 6. Paulo Sousa
   
10. Aldo/The Stain - 1. Davids 2. Littbarski 3. Mendieta 4. Montero 5. Makaay 6. Henry
    
11. Marty1968 - 1. Seedorf 2. Costacurta 3. Berthold 4. Gattuso 5. Scholl 6. Benarrivo
    
12. Sjor Bepo/anant - 1. Stam 2. Alaba 3. Camoranesi 4. Godin 5. Gündoğan 6. Kluivert
    
13. Isotope - 1. Cafu 2. Weah 3. Ze Roberto 4. Mauro Silva 5. Hummels 6. Signori
14. Skizzo/Pat_Mustard - 1. Hierro 2. Ruggeri 3. Klinsmann 4. Bebeto 5. Moller 6. Chiellini
15. Tuppet - 1. R. Carlos 2. Zanetti 3. Voller 4. Ferrara 5. Riquelme 6. B. Laudrup
16. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1. Lizarazu 2. Sagnol 3. Vieri 4. J Boateng 5. Simeone 6. Cambiasso

Blocked Players:

Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Busquets, Romario, Redondo, Xavi, Rijkaard, Ronaldinho, Maradona, Messi, Luis Ronaldo, Cristiano Ronaldo, Robben, Ribery, Lewandowski, Van Basten, Baresi, Maldini, Matthaus, Nesta, Kohler, Van Nistelrooy, Suarez, Zidane, Buffon, Casillas, Neuer, Sammer, M. Laudrup, Gullit, Batistuta, Baggio, Pirlo, Stoichkov, Desailly, Thuram, Brehme, Tassotti, Iniesta, Koeman, Raul, Rui Costa, Del Piero, Figo, Rivaldo, Effenberg, Cannavaro, Makelele.

@Gio

 

[VivaJanuzaj]

Of course, he has improved in Spain but he didn't need time to be excellent. Indeed, he joined Real Madrid because he was brilliant in Germany in terms of assists/goals and impact on the game.
After Germany, he was successful because he is not a falling star.

To illustrate my point of view:

- 2009/10: more than 55 matches including ... 16 matches with Germany. He played very well during the WC 2010 (he scored against Ghana for instance).
- With Bremen, 108 games in all competitions, scoring 16 goals and giving 55 assists

We are not talking about a child but of a confirmed player in the Bundesliga league. This confirmed and talented Bundesliga player has succeeded in Spain because he left the country at the perfect age (not too young, not too old)

My choice is based on the following post and that is why, I have posted a video about his terrific performances with Bremen.




DFB-Pokal winner in 2009 + DFB-Pokal runner-up in 2010

He lost the final of the Europa League against Shakhtar

The Bremen player who saved Germany against Ghana :

Look its not that I mean to imply he wasn't good enough at Bremen, just not completely sold he was as good as he later was for RM or Arsenal.
No need to go over it again though. Nice pick all round.

 

[Ecstatic]

Look its not that I mean to imply he wasn't good enough at Bremen, just not completely sold he was as good as he later was for RM or Arsenal.
No need to go over it again though. Nice pick all round.

@VivaJanuzaj Thanks for all your comments. I agree with you. He was better with RM.

For instance, if the rule had been "career peak", I would not have hired him as a Bundesliga player. In the Bundesliga league, he was decisive in almost all matches.

You also have nice picks: for example, in the Liga category, Etoo was my 1st choice as a CF You defence is impressive.

 

[Ecstatic]

Plenty of quality players still left to draft!

Sure ! But they will disappear by the end of the 8th round

 

[Enigma_87]

Anyone to leave a pick with? As I think snow is not on and I'll be out for couple of hours

 

[VivaJanuzaj]

Anyone to leave a pick with? As I think snow is not on and I'll be out for couple of hours

Yeah I'll be on and off during the games all day you can PM them to me mate.

@VivaJanuzaj Thanks for all your comments. I agree with you. He was better with RM.

For instance, if the rule had been "career peak", I would not have hired him as a Bundesliga player. In the Bundesliga league, he was decisive in almost all matches.

You also have nice picks: for example, in the Liga category, Etoo was my 1st choice as a CF You defence is impressive.

Looking forward to the match.

P.S. I'm the good cop, wait till you stumble upon my partner, MJJ aka the bad cop

 

[Gio]

1. KM /Cal? - 1. Zlatan 2. Reus 3. Buchwald 4. Albertini 5. Boban 6. Felipe Luis 7. Griezmann
2. Downcast/KirkDuyt - 1. Neymar 2. Yaya Touré 3. Falcao 4. Di Maria 5. Maicon 6. Ozil 7. Heinrich
   
3. Gio - 1. Nedved 2. Veron 3. Reuter 4. Deschamps 5. Puyol 6. Bratseth 7. Careca
   
4. Enigma_87/Snow - 1. Kaka 2. Villa 3. Lucio 4. Modric 5. Schneider 6. Marcelo
   
5. Crappycraperson - 1. Totti 2. Savićević 3. Bale 4. Kroos 5. Popescu 6. Jorginho
6. Joga Bonito/Balu - 1. Bergomi 2. Xabi Alonso 3. Dani Alves 4. Häßler 5. Forlán 6. Ferri
   
7. mazhar13/Boycott - 1. Shevchenko 2. Aldair 3. Donadoni 4. Luis Enrique 5. Cocu 6. Pique
   
8. VivaJanuzaj/MJJ - 1. Muller 2. Eto'o 3. Guardiola 4. T.Silva 5. Samuel 6. Abidal
9. RedTiger - 1. Ballack 2. Zambrotta 3 Ayala 4. Vidal 5. Aguero 6. Paulo Sousa
   
10. Aldo/The Stain - 1. Davids 2. Littbarski 3. Mendieta 4. Montero 5. Makaay 6. Henry
    
11. Marty1968 - 1. Seedorf 2. Costacurta 3. Berthold 4. Gattuso 5. Scholl 6. Benarrivo
    
12. Sjor Bepo/anant - 1. Stam 2. Alaba 3. Camoranesi 4. Godin 5. Gündoğan 6. Kluivert
    
13. Isotope - 1. Cafu 2. Weah 3. Ze Roberto 4. Mauro Silva 5. Hummels 6. Signori
14. Skizzo/Pat_Mustard - 1. Hierro 2. Ruggeri 3. Klinsmann 4. Bebeto 5. Moller 6. Chiellini
15. Tuppet - 1. R. Carlos 2. Zanetti 3. Voller 4. Ferrara 5. Riquelme 6. B. Laudrup
16. Edgar Allan Pillow - 1. Lizarazu 2. Sagnol 3. Vieri 4. J Boateng 5. Simeone 6. Cambiasso

Blocked Players:

Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Busquets, Romario, Redondo, Xavi, Rijkaard, Ronaldinho, Maradona, Messi, Luis Ronaldo, Cristiano Ronaldo, Robben, Ribery, Lewandowski, Van Basten, Baresi, Maldini, Matthaus, Nesta, Kohler, Van Nistelrooy, Suarez, Zidane, Buffon, Casillas, Neuer, Sammer, M. Laudrup, Gullit, Batistuta, Baggio, Pirlo, Stoichkov, Desailly, Thuram, Brehme, Tassotti, Iniesta, Koeman, Raul, Rui Costa, Del Piero, Figo, Rivaldo, Effenberg, Cannavaro, Makelele.

@Enigma_87
@Snow

 

[Moby]

Nice.

 

[Marty1968]

So glad that Careca got picked for this draft. He was one of my immediate players I thought of when I thought about Serie A. There's one more guy i hope gets picked as well and if he doesn't he's my 12th pick.

 

[Balu]

Joga is going to kill me now . I told him to pick Ferri first, because Gio most likely won't pick a Serie A striker considering the players he already has in his team.

 

[Balu]

Anyone to leave a pick with? As I think snow is not on and I'll be out for couple of hours

Yeah I'll be on and off during the games all day you can PM them to me mate.

Viva? Do you have Enigma's pick?

 

[Gio]

Joga is going to kill me now . I told him to pick Ferri first, because Gio most likely won't pick a Serie A striker considering the players he already has in his team.

Did mull over a couple of La Liga alternatives, but it was hard to resist the Brazilian.

 

[Balu]

Did mull over a couple of La Liga alternatives, but it was hard to resist the Brazilian.

Yeah, kinda understandable, just hoped you wouldn't want to use your 4th Serie A pick so soon. And Ferri stood out between the remaining defenders, so I thought he made more sense. Would have been gutted if we missed out on reuniting him with Bergomi.