La Liga - 2014/15

Well, he did get a penalty last season from a clear outside the box foul. Funny enough, its the same referee as tonight's.

I read on Eurosport that today's ref had given two penalties to Barca in some game and Ramos and Ronaldo had complained/moaned about it later. Maybe just a shit ref then.
 
You are changing the subject. Nobody disputes that Ronaldo dives (however as a Barcelona fan you do not really have a leg to stand on when it comes to arguing about diving). You have not disputed any of my points in regards to why Madrid receive so much penalties and have begun to discuss Ronaldo (even mentioning a dive against Liverpool which he did not receive a penalty for).
real madrid gets that amount of penalties because they play inside the box a lot more than any other team in la liga
it's only natural that their players will be fouled inside the box more than other teams
but some of the penaltys -very few, if you ask me- were wrongly awarded
 
however as a Barcelona fan you do not really have a leg to stand on when it comes to arguing about diving

Show me 3 penalties that Barca/Atletico was awarded wrongly for blatant diving this season, and I will take down this post. You can include dives from Messi/Busquets/Alves/Neymar/Suarez combined.
 
True enough and there are a fair number of fouls not called as well. But tonight's was a (well timed, defender movement anticipating) dive, which seemed rather petty (for want of a better word) in the first half of a match against a minnow. So it will stick in the memory and get replayed after every legit or uncalled penalty for a while.
I agree. Two or three weeks before a player could have been sent off for fouling Ronaldo when he would have been clear on goal and there have been plenty of other times when Madrid have been on the bad end of the refereeing decisions. It is just that Madrid keep winning regardless even when there are decisions being giving against them so they do not matter much and are not highlighted so often. As for the bolded, I have and would never dispute that Ronaldo dived there today. Overall it seems to be the fans of the teams that are losing that complain so much about refereeing decisions. It has been Madrid fans in the past and Barcelona fans now.
 
Is it me or anyone else think that Benzema wastes many build ups/opportunities? He has good games here and there but not consistent enough imo. Not sure if Chicharito can get involved in Real's fast build ups, but deserves some starts.
 
Show me 3 penalties that Barca/Atletico was awarded wrongly for blatant diving this season, and I will take down this post. You can include dives from Messi/Busquets/Alves/Neymar/Suarez combined.
I am talking about in general, not just this season. All of those players you have mentioned (except Messi) are some of the biggest divers and cheaters in the game. Madrid have a fair few too, so that is why I do not go around complaining about other teams when they do it as it is hypocritical. I hope you would not dispute that Barcelona have benefitted from referees too over the years, especially in Europe. All big clubs benefit from referees tbh but it is only Barcelona fans who seem to be always crying foul and playing the victim card (which they have been doing for a very long time).
 
I am talking about in general, not just this season. All of those players you have mentioned (except Messi) are some of the biggest divers and cheaters in the game. Madrid have a fair few too, so that is why I do not go around complaining about other teams when they do it as it is hypocritical. I hope you would not dispute that Barcelona have benefitted from referees too over the years, especially in Europe. All big clubs benefit from referees tbh but it is only Barcelona fans who seem to be always crying foul and playing the victim card (which they have been doing for a very long time).

Let us remember the words of our dear friend Didier Drogba: "It's a fecking disgrace"
 
All of those players you have mentioned (except Messi) are some of the biggest divers and cheaters in the game.
You claim Barca have the biggest divers and cheaters, yet you can't find combined goals that we got as a blatant dive compared to a single player of Madrid's.

As for typical #uefalona cries, I am well aware of that.

 
and the fanbois are the messi fans, doesnt matter that ronaldo fans come with games that happened between five and 28 years ago to defend a blatant dive from his loved

I'm not defending anything, just saying that Barcelona supporters shouldn't cry about someone else diving.
 
You claim Barca have the biggest divers and cheaters, yet you can't find combined goals that we got as a blatant dive compared to a single player of Madrid's.

As for typical #uefalona cries, I am well aware of that.


I'm not sad enough to go digging up stuff. I do not have time too. Everyone knows that Busquets (peekaboo), Pedro, Alves and the likes are divers. Moving away from dives and talking about referee performances, what did you make of Overebo? What about the referee who awarded you a penalty vs Milan? The referee who sent off Busquets? Van Persie?

And as for the tweet, well I guess that's it then. That's definite proof that Madrid benefit from refereeing decisions more than Barcelona :lol:. I love how that tweet puts everything into context and is definitely unbiased and does not have some sort of agenda :lol:. People in England complain about United in that regard and people in Germany do the same in regards to Bayern. Supporters of smaller clubs always complain that the biggest clubs benefit from referee decisions. I can accept that Madrid benefit from referee decision like all big clubs do. Can you admit the same about Barcelona?
 
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You claim Barca have the biggest divers and cheaters, yet you can't find combined goals that we got as a blatant dive compared to a single player of Madrid's.

As for typical #uefalona cries, I am well aware of that.



Is that statistically different to Madrid's normal home defeat rate?
 
is there any team in europe that can prevent real madrid from winning the 11th CL? i think they are going to be the first team to win it two years in a row
It is way too early for such talk. There are plenty of other strong teams who can beat us and who knows what form we will be in or what form they will be in at the time. I hope you are right though.
 
real madrid gets that amount of penalties because they play inside the box a lot more than any other team in la liga
it's only natural that their players will be fouled inside the box more than other teams
but some of the penaltys -very few, if you ask me- were wrongly awarded
I agree.
 
It is way too early for such talk. There are plenty of other strong teams who can beat us and who knows what form we will be in or what form they will be in at the time. I hope you are right though.
imo you are ridiculously strong in every line

and not only that, you have the replacement for every player -except for ronaldo, of course-
 
Nobody would dispute that. It is the cheap bit that I fell needs to be explained more. I am sure you would agree that it is a bold claim. Surely as a United fan you could understand why someone would ask for an explanation in such a situation as United fans have had to do the same for years in regards to complaints from Liverpool, Chelsea, City and Arsenal fans concerning referee decisions.
Well, I'm not the type who believes in conspiracies, so I think it's down to their style of play. RM are really good at penetrating defences and find themselves inside the box, more often than any other team I've seen the last few years. Because of this, they get more penalties than the average team since the rate of fouls don't always go down. That's fair enough. Then there's Ronaldo, Marcelo, etc. Already this season, there's a handful of incidents where they got away with their obvious diving. If you ask me who I blame really, I blame the bad refs of La Liga. For example, they should be aware of Ronaldo's reputation of diving, yet they don't hesitate when he falls to the ground.
 
Well, I'm not the type who believes in conspiracies, so I think it's down to their style of play. RM are really good at penetrating defences and find themselves inside the box, more often than any other team I've seen the last few years. Because of this, they get more penalties than the average team since the rate of fouls don't always go down. That's fair enough. Then there's Ronaldo, Marcelo, etc. Already this season, there's a handful of incidents where they got away with their obvious diving. If you ask me who I blame really, I blame the bad refs of La Liga. For example, they should be aware of Ronaldo's reputation of diving, yet they don't hesitate when he falls to the ground.
That is fair enough. I agree. The reason they get so many penalties is due to Madrid's fast-paced, counter-attacking style and they are awarded so many as they often have defenders isolated against pacey players running at them. Whereas in comparison, other teams in La Liga have a slower and more pragmatic build-up which stops at the oppositions box. I agree that there will be others then that are wrongly given due to diving or refereeing incompetency.
 
It is way too early for such talk. There are plenty of other strong teams who can beat us and who knows what form we will be in or what form they will be in at the time. I hope you are right though.

I think it's inevitable we'll be drawn together at some point. We've not faced Real in a competitive game since 1998, there's the Mourinho/Real factor and Chelsea/Real just so happen to be the two most in form teams in Europe right now.
 
Is that statistically different to Madrid's normal home defeat rate?
In the last 5 seasons plus the defeat this season there have been 7 La Liga home defeats. 2x vs Atlético, 3x vs Barce and 1x aganist Zaragoza and Sporting.

Different ref in every game.
 
Atletico are back on track, after their pretty bad start. I wonder if they can keep it up again.
Well I haven't checked all the squad but if I am not completely wrong they lost 5 players and added 7, so obviously it takes a bit of time to gel, I actually thought it would take them a bit longer, but here they are right in the title race and top of their CL group. They'll definitely keep it up, but you guys don't look like dropping points either.

But don't worry, they'll beat you in the Calderon and you then draw one game and the title is theirs' again :D
 

Madrid were about to fall 10 points behind Barça, and this allowed Madrid to gain 3 points and some momentum, they almost won the league that year.

Who remembers this penalty? :lol:
 
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