Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy

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The hype is incredible for a half a season player, in the french league. Absolutely incredible. 'Among the best in the world' has actually been used in this thread, more than once.
Already being deemed the heir to Messi and Ronaldo. :lol:

Based on 6 months. Total and utter lunacy.
 
back in the 90's they would've gone to Arsenal. Nowadays these guys will fetch record fees

The Spanish big two are all over these two. Hard to see them ending up anywhere else right now.

If we had a quality team we would compete for them. We are playing major catch up though.
 
I am for signing one of the hottest prospects out there, but as a team/squad, United are way behind from the big teams in Europe. After three seasons of mediocrity, it caused United to lag behind so much. A lot of cracks need to be patched up, before going out there splashing cash on a prodigy whereas other parts of the team is pretty average at best at the moment. Potentials are there in the likes of Rashford, Martial, Pogba, but if compare to teams like Bayern and Real, United is pretty imbalance. Who will be the main LB? Bayern have Alaba and Bernat, Real have Marcelo. In midfield, Real has technical yet balanced trio of Modric, Kroos and Casemiro. Bayern have Vidal, Thiago and soon Tolisso etc.

United are very rich, but are not limitless. United need to build a steady team first, a steady base before able to bring in youngsters, potential players in, in which is not that far off from Chelsea, but in Europe is way behind.
 
We shouldn't discuss him moving to united because it will never happen. Madrid or Monaco bound that is it.
 
We shouldn't discuss him moving to united because it will never happen. Madrid or Monaco bound that is it.
I think this relates only to this summer. If Monaco hold onto him this year then in 12 months, there will be a bidding war and teams would be smart to sign him BEFORE the world cup.
 
Insane hype!
He's a very good young player after having an amazing breakout season. How will the next few years go for him? Who knows! You'd swear he was already the saviour of football the way a few of you are going on! Rooney and Anelka, Owen etc were all winning games by themselves at this age in arguably worse teams.... all had good careers but they were all fairly overhyped in hindsight with Rooney being the best of that lot by some distance. Mbappe is still too young to truly know how it's all going to pan out.
He may become a really great player but saying he's a once in a generation talent after one season is crazy.
Anelka was never over hyped. Its his character that derailed him. Owen too was the real deal.
 
Anelka was never over hyped. Its his character that derailed him. Owen too was the real deal.

Anelka was hyped to my mind. Anyway, All were great young players who had varying success due to one reason or another. I get people saying mbappe is as close to a sure thing you're likely to see. That he will turn out world class and we will regret not buying him etc but it's impossible to really know what the future holds for any player. That Monaco TEAM is superb and a lot of the players could turn out to be good but not that good apart or in a different envoirnment etc or another young forward really comes into his own next year and real end up going for him too.... Brazilian Ronaldo was beating 2/3 players from halfway and scoring when he came to Europe, he was winning matches almost single handed. He looked potentially like one of the best players ever and injuries hampered him. Portuguese Ronaldo looked exciting when he arrived here but we were thinking maybe giggs or Beckham level of talent at the very best. If he was really tipped at the start to dominate world football like he has done do you think we'd have gotten him so cheap or he wouldn't have just moved to real straight away? He still had so much work to do for the first few years along with all that talent but he totally worked his ass off and had one manager who totally believed in him and indulged him. His attitude and talent level were perfectly in synch but not everyone is wired like that even if they are talented enough. There are loads of factors at play as to who truly goes on to become world class. Injury, luck, manager, system, work ethic, private life etc.
 
Anelka was hyped to my mind. Anyway, All were great young players who had varying success due to one reason or another. I get people saying mbappe is as close to a sure thing you're likely to see. That he will turn out world class and we will regret not buying him etc but it's impossible to really know what the future holds for any player. That Monaco TEAM is superb and a lot of the players could turn out to be good but not that good apart or in a different envoirnment etc or another young forward really comes into his own next year and real end up going for him too.... Brazilian Ronaldo was beating 2/3 players from halfway and scoring when he came to Europe, he was winning matches almost single handed. He looked potentially like one of the best players ever and injuries hampered him. Portuguese Ronaldo looked exciting when he arrived here but we were thinking maybe giggs or Beckham level of talent at the very best. If he was really tipped at the start to dominate world football like he has done do you think we'd have gotten him so cheap or he wouldn't have just moved to real straight away? He still had so much work to do for the first few years along with all that talent but he totally worked his ass off and had one manager who totally believed in him and indulged him. His attitude and talent level were perfectly in synch but not everyone is wired like that even if they are talented enough. There are loads of factors at play as to who truly goes on to become world class. Injury, luck, manager, system, work ethic, private life etc.
I largely agree. personally I love Mbappe, but the fees being bandied about for him after one super season are too big a risk. Only a Real could get away with it with their traditional Galacticos policy. Because for me as good as he has been, I don't see him above the level of Gabriel Jesus who was signed for about 25-30. For me you'd have to be the second coming of prime Da Lima, Del Piero pre the first big injury, or Pele even to be worth 100m after 1 season as an 18 year old striker.
 
I largely agree. personally I love Mbappe, but the fees being bandied about for him after one super season are too big a risk. Only a Real could get away with it with their traditional Galacticos policy. Because for me as good as he has been, I don't see him above the level of Gabriel Jesus who was signed for about 25-30. For me you'd have to be the second coming of prime Da Lima, Del Piero pre the first big injury, or Pele even to be worth 100m after 1 season as an 18 year old striker.


Exactly and with all the armchair scouts, the internet and new media and the race to find the next truly big thing the hype is nearly unbearable. It such a huge call to say he's the next this or that after this season. He may be the next Henry, great. What would Henry have been if he didn't move to arsenal and stayed out wide? What would Ronaldo have been if he didn't move to united and Fergie? It's impossible to know. The money doesn't nearly correspond with the realty at the minute. It corresponds perfectly with the hype and possibly the true potential though. He could just turn out to be yet another good French forward who will do well if he's at a big club who are winning things anyway. He could also get lost at real with all their politics, big new signings and managers coming and going or if he loses form/confidence/gets injured etc. Who knows. He's definitely not on the same level individually as Brazilian Ronaldo at the same age. Mbappe could taper off easily next year or he could become the best player in the history of the game. That's up to our manager and scouts to decide and if he doesn't want to come here anyway there's nothing at all we can do. He must have enormous potential if it's a world record transfer fee based mostly on potential though. I think thy are just hedging their bets. He becomes good great. He doesn't, it's not the end of the world.
 
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it's largely irrelevant because he won't sign for us anyway, but I'm surprised by the people who wouldn't want him even if he did want to play for us, because of the money. you have to take risks to get to the top. this guy is one of those risks that is worth it, because he has the ability to possibly dominate a league. those players win you titles.
 
No he's not. Mbappe's got quicker feet. You could argue Martial is quicker, he might edge it in that respect.

Quicker feet don't necessarily mean better dribbling. I think Martial is better than Mbappe in that regard. He just has a more refined touch, he doesn't need much space to get past someone. Mbappe is just a notch below, he is more effective with space around him. He's only 18 though, he's got time to progress and surpass Martial even in that department.
 
Quicker feet don't necessarily mean better dribbling. I think Martial is better than Mbappe in that regard. He just has a more refined touch, he doesn't need much space to get past someone. Mbappe is just a notch below, he is more effective with space around him. He's only 18 though, he's got time to progress and surpass Martial even in that department.
Na, sorry. dont agree.
 
I still think he'll be a flop. Of all the matches i saw of him, a few were lucky, a few were tap ins and a few wouldve gone in regardless of who was there.

Next season is his real test when teams figure him out. I fully expect him to not get near his previous record and flop.
 
I still think he'll be a flop. Of all the matches i saw of him, a few were lucky, a few were tap ins and a few wouldve gone in regardless of who was there.

Next season is his real test when teams figure him out. I fully expect him to not get near his previous record and flop.

There's a chance he'll be neither a flop nor the GOAT contender some on the other extreme have suggested, but rather a very good player, world class player, perhaps as good as Henry.
 
I still think he'll be a flop. Of all the matches i saw of him, a few were lucky, a few were tap ins and a few wouldve gone in regardless of who was there.

Next season is his real test when teams figure him out. I fully expect him to not get near his previous record and flop.
And I fully expect to be quoting you next year and laughing! Would've you taken T. Henry at 18 knowing what you know now?
 
Had no idea he had only 2 years left on his contract. Monaco should have a bit of urgency to sell to be honest. If he stays a year, imagine if he doesn't sign a new contract and then has 12 months to go. They could lose half their transfer fee
 
The risk of staying at Monaco is that their squad won't be as good anymore and he'll get less service to score goals next season.
 
Had no idea he had only 2 years left on his contract. Monaco should have a bit of urgency to sell to be honest. If he stays a year, imagine if he doesn't sign a new contract and then has 12 months to go. They could lose half their transfer fee

I think I heard that Monaco was going to offer him the same contract than Falcao. I don't remember the source though.

The risk of staying at Monaco is that their squad won't be as good anymore and he'll get less service to score goals next season.

People seem to take that as a given but at the moment Monaco hasn't lost much.
 
The risk of staying at Monaco is that their squad won't be as good anymore and he'll get less service to score goals next season.
Think he will sign a new contract with a high release clause personally.
 
And I fully expect to be quoting you next year and laughing! Would've you taken T. Henry at 18 knowing what you know now?

Doesn't that just highlight the point? You don't know how he's going to turn out. if anyone did then I'm sure the decision to pay a world record fee would be a much easier one to make.

It's madness the money being talked about for this lad. Next season people will be much more aware of what he's about, he'll be under the microscope and expected to perform in the way that most 18/19 year olds aren't. Whether he can handle that and raise his game again is the test of whether he's going to be the player that he's evidently got the potential to be.
 
Release clause are illegal in France.
Ah OK, perhaps a gentlemen's agreement then.

I don't think Mbappe seems the type to leave Monaco on a free after all they've given him.
 
The risk of staying at Monaco is that their squad won't be as good anymore and he'll get less service to score goals next season.

They have lost one player and gained a couple. They might lose 1 or 2 more but I doubt their squad as a whole is going to be that much weaker.
Losing Bakayoko for instance and gaining Tielemans would be fine.
 
Ah OK, perhaps a gentlemen's agreement then.

I don't think Mbappe seems the type to leave Monaco on a free after all they've given him.

If Mbappé wants to go, Monaco will let him go, you could call it a gentlemen's agreement but I don't think they need to even have one.
 
They have lost one player and gained a couple. They might lose 1 or 2 more but I doubt their squad as a whole is going to be that much weaker.
Losing Bakayoko for instance and gaining Tielemans would be fine.

And having someone like Allan Saint Maximin return on loan could help with the loss of Bernardo Silva.
 
Best thing you would think would be for him to have another season at Monaco before the WC next summer, although if he has a stinker of a season then the Madrid links could dry up, so its a tough decision for the young lad to make, still looks a very exciting talent but the fee banded about is crazy but its one way to try keep your best players on Monaco's behalf.
 
I think he'll be at Monaco another year, and then Madrid will get him in to replace Benzema as he'll be another year as he'll be what, 30/31 then?
 
The Spanish big two are all over these two. Hard to see them ending up anywhere else right now.

If we had a quality team we would compete for them. We are playing major catch up though.

Lets be honest, most players having the choice of Barcelona or Real will choose them over us regardess of the state of quality of our team.
 
CR7 even at this age > Mbappe
Mbappae > Morata


Morata should be a no go for us simply because the fee would be used by RM to buy Mbappe, the eventual successor to Ronaldo - in which case we get d*cked around by helping Madrid and clearly get the shorter end of the stick.

United if anything should either get Ronaldo or Mbappe strictly off the fact we don't allow Madrid to have both of them. If we really want to thrust back into that category of biggest clubs in the world, then go after world class players or soon to be world class players and get out of this cycle of mediocrity. Getting Morata would be toxic as it would set up Real and leave us with a meh player in comparison to the price tag it would cost to get him (Morata) and the player (Mbappe) RM would get out of it.

...TLDR, Ronaldo or Mbappe or no Morata and in that order for reasons mentioned above.
 
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