The hype is incredible for a half a season player, in the french league. Absolutely incredible. 'Among the best in the world' has actually been used in this thread, more than once.
Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy
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Instead of talking about buyinger another Monaco teenager for stupid amount of money we should actually concentrate on getting the best out of the one we already have. Point. Martial seems like he is at..i don´t know 40 %? He has SO MUCH more in him, it´s up to the coaches and teammates to unleash the weapons he has.
Don't have a choice. Our status in football means that surprisingly, we are not the number one destination for players.
We aren't that rich. We have already spent money and have other holes to fill. Madrid are the best in the World so theoretically do not need to sign anyone. Thus they can blow their entire budget on one luxury signing. I doubt we could spend more than 200million this summer and to blow all of that on an 18 year old who has performed for 6 months is a disaster waiting to happen. have some chill. we'll get there, but Woodward has people to answer to and must be smart with our money. Our revenue was barely 25 million higher than Madrid's, plus they won the double. If anything, they will have more money than us in the near future.
Madrid is a significant step up. We aren't. The only advantage we have is higher pay but I believe there is little tax in Monaco. His team are league champs and play good football. rumours are he thinks our football is dire and we haven't exactly set the world alight, being the 6th best team in our country.
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Owen, Aguero. there are others
Comedy gold!
Not a chance we'll go for him, we blew that money on Martial who we'll have to hope hits exciting form again.
Such an exciting player to watch though, the type of player we've been missing on the pitch for too long.
Such an exciting player to watch though, the type of player we've been missing on the pitch for too long.
Letting Martial leave would be a mistake, that's for sure.
That's actually not a bad point. If he goes to the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool or PSG for that money he would immediately become a "saviour", franchise type player with massive pressure and expectations for him but also the club.
Real Madrid could actually get away with being 2 times defending European champions and all and with Ronaldo as the unquestioned star.
we're probably somewhere in the middle. Pogba is the superstar but if we're not top 2 in the PL next year it would really be underwhelming.
Yeah it's hilariously over the top.
It's not just United fans hyping Mbappe. Fans of many clubs are appraising him and coming to the conclusions that he's a top player in the making.
You know what, we can see he's going to be a star and if Madrid sign him, you know he'll end up being one of those players that we look at in a few years and wish there was some way we could have players like that. Similarly Dembele who was awesome last night again. In a few years Mbappe will be at Madrid, Dembele will be at Barca and we'll be looking over at them wishing we could have signed them. Imagine having both in your team?
We're a super-rich club and we have been chucking money around to little avail for a few years now. We have defense sorted out already, so here's what we should try (we won't and it probably wouldn't work, but you never know): Put in a huge bid for Mbappe of £130m or so and put in a huge bid for Dembele of £100m or so at the same time. Make it public that we want both together and let the players know that our ambition is to play them together with Pogba pulling the strings for them and become a real force in world football. Offer them big money to come and play together and hope that they see the potential of that situation, and that we're offering the most money to play immediately and be the biggest attraction at a huge club. Sure, we'd have to spend around £230m to make it happen, but better that, than spend £150m to make top 4 in our domestic league?
After they (definitely :P) sign, then we get a DM like Matic for £30-40m by selling on a few fringe players to pay for it and we watch the PL shit themselves when we unleash a forward line of Martial, Mbappe and Dembele at full speed on every break.
We're a super-rich club and we have been chucking money around to little avail for a few years now. We have defense sorted out already, so here's what we should try (we won't and it probably wouldn't work, but you never know): Put in a huge bid for Mbappe of £130m or so and put in a huge bid for Dembele of £100m or so at the same time. Make it public that we want both together and let the players know that our ambition is to play them together with Pogba pulling the strings for them and become a real force in world football. Offer them big money to come and play together and hope that they see the potential of that situation, and that we're offering the most money to play immediately and be the biggest attraction at a huge club. Sure, we'd have to spend around £230m to make it happen, but better that, than spend £150m to make top 4 in our domestic league?
After they (definitely :P) sign, then we get a DM like Matic for £30-40m by selling on a few fringe players to pay for it and we watch the PL shit themselves when we unleash a forward line of Martial, Mbappe and Dembele at full speed on every break.
Looking at him develop this year hopefully lights a fire under Martial to perform well next season.
I am not so sure to be honest. Who cares about Pele, he was playing football back in the 60's and nobody can fairly compare that with anything. He also spent his career in Brazil and then the US, again impossible to compare.
But regarding Ronaldo, I think Mbappe is extremely similar in terms of ability and output, pace, touch, dribbling and movement. "He's not close" - well, I beg to differ. You say Fenomeno at PSV was tearing it up even at early age.. well yes, in Dutch football. At the same exact age, Mbappe is tearing it up for probably the most exciting team in Europe, has been instrumental in every game in the Champions League up until they lost to Juventus in the semis - and just played extremely well against England in the game yesterday which was highly competitive for an international friendly. His ability (no point in saying talent anymore) is extremely high.
After 1998 and him being around 22-23 years old, Ronaldo never scored more than 24 league goals over a season again. I severely doubt the same thing will happen with Mbappe.
Using only the evidence of my eyes and admitting I haven't seen a huge amount of him, I'd say he isn't as good as 18 year old Rooney or Giggs. Whether that actually means anything is another matter.
While I'm not opposed to signing either Mbappe or Dembele, we need to make better use of the talents we currently have (i.e. Martial). Otherwise there's no guarantee that we won't be looking abroad once again for another shiny new signing in a couple years' time.
We should of signed dembele before he went to Dortmund it was obvious he had the talent. Everyone could see it feck knows what our scouts are doing. Am sick of teams like athletico, Porto and Dortmund signing talent on the cheap all the time and we're nowhere to be seen. It's been going on for years. I said it on here a few weeks back and some posters were saying we can't operate like some other clubs because we are a super club and need instant success. Well that's not been working has it. Even big clubs like juventus always sign young talent. I see no problem with us making 2-3 experienced signings then adding a couple of promising youngsters every year. But we seemed determined to let all the best talent go then put in bids for stupid money after they have moved on
In the case of Ronaldo you're forgetting that he had a monstrous knee injury when he was 23 at Inter (he got another one under a year later) which greatly hampered his game. Before that, in Brazil, PSV and Barsa he averaged almost a goal a game without being a penalty or free kick taker. He was FIFA player of the year age 20.
As good as Mbappe is, I don't get a Ronaldo vibe from him. Ronaldo took the ball and it felt like he was going to score every time he had it. He made defenders panic. The great Paolo Maldini himself said that Maradona and Ronaldo were the 2 best players he ever faced.
I am sorry but lots of delusionally in there.
You're not too far off. He's foreign, so he has to be better than any British player, ever. I personally see him having a similar season to what Rashford had in his first year. Also Rooney at the age of 18 came to United and was winning titles. And he started when he was 16. Heck, Rooney took the 2004 Euro's by storm and he was 18. I think Mbappe has has played 4-5 games for Frannce, with 0 goals?
Frankly hate comments like these.He certainly set the world on fire last season with his dribbling for us
A season doesn't make a player, a season doesn't break a player. Especially when the player is so young. Also, shitting on one of our most talented young players is a bit uncalled for. And that green smiley at the end is so cringe.
A season doesn't make a player? Tell that to everyone admiring Mmmbop
You are very right, the injuries messed up a lot for him. I don't put much into what he did at PSV, but what he did for Barcelona that one season was unquestionable for sure. He was also extremely important in the World Cups he performed in. What we cannot forget is that Ronaldo was at his best 20 years ago (shit, you feel old now!? I do..) - and football has developed a whole lot since then, the physical levels have reached a possible peak. Just look at the "ridiculous" defending going on in WC1994 in USA, which is only 4-ish years prior to Ronaldo reaching his peak years. What Mbappe is doing now at 18 is at the same level, let's just hope he has a career free of the same injuries as Ronaldo. In fact, let's hope he plays as many games as Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi. Put Mbappe in the PSV-team next year and see him score 30, the same goes for Barcelona if you pulled out one of the MSN's.
In regards to the Dutch league when ronaldo was there it had a lot more talent in the league then it does now. It had that great Ajax team that reached two consecutive champions league finals.
Imagine if we or Real actually do pay €150m for him and he ends up tearing his knee ligaments in his first game... What would happen? Do clubs have giant insurance policies on their most valuable players?
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When Madrid first signed Ronaldo werent his legs insured for around 100m?
Rather than make up words, how about intelligently debunking my points?
On second thoughts, that would be asking too much of you.
Mbappe just seems like a much much more consistent version of Rashford.
I've refused to even consider him because he's nailed on for Madrid, imo.
Still, it's always great to watch a potential superstar in the making.
Martial was that profile but we are forced to pay exceptional fees regardless. In fact Dembele scored more than Martial in his debut season. Dortmund paid 12 million allegedly, we pay £37-50 million. It will be the same regardless. When we come knocking, price doubles
Martial was at Monaco while Dembélé was at Rennes. Financially that's two different worlds.
Are you suggesting Mbappé is better than Ronaldo? Ehh..... I hope not.
That was to the quote I replied to not the player
What do you mean by ridiculous defending in 1994? Ridiculously good or ridiculously bad?
Because, as much as people think things have evolved, we very much live in an era where the art of defending has regressed by a substantial margin.
We simply don't know what will happen with Mbappe. He may be a world class player or he may fizzle out. I know the latter doesn't seem likely right now that his hype train is in full motion, but anything can happen. It all depends on his work ethic and attitude.
Absolutely. What many people who are suggesting that it's too much to pay for such an inexperienced player is that if he moves to Real Madrid or another top club, our chances of ever seeing him in a United shirt are gone for good. If he develops as he should, there is no way that United would be able to sign him.
Dembele had his pick of clubs as he was the hottest talent in France before he left. He chose the one who he believed would most further his development and allow him an almost unchallenged time as a starter as opposed to mega squads who drop players or rotate them without a second thought.
Dembele will go to a top team when he decides he's ready, which is to be appluaded.
We should setup a gofundme page to buy this guy and Dembele! France absolutely have to win WC2022.
Good grief.
Mbappe and Dembele are exactly the type of players we shield be buying.
Insane hype!
He's a very good young player after having an amazing breakout season. How will the next few years go for him? Who knows! You'd swear he was already the saviour of football the way a few of you are going on! Rooney and Anelka, Owen etc were all winning games by themselves at this age in arguably worse teams.... all had good careers but they were all fairly overhyped in hindsight with Rooney being the best of that lot by some distance. Mbappe is still too young to truly know how it's all going to pan out.
He may become a really great player but saying he's a once in a generation talent after one season is crazy.
He's a very good young player after having an amazing breakout season. How will the next few years go for him? Who knows! You'd swear he was already the saviour of football the way a few of you are going on! Rooney and Anelka, Owen etc were all winning games by themselves at this age in arguably worse teams.... all had good careers but they were all fairly overhyped in hindsight with Rooney being the best of that lot by some distance. Mbappe is still too young to truly know how it's all going to pan out.
He may become a really great player but saying he's a once in a generation talent after one season is crazy.
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