There's a massive difference between biggest club and best side though. We're right up there with the former and nowhere near with the latter.
Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy
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There's a massive difference between biggest club and best side though. We're right up there with the former and nowhere near with the latter.
Wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole for that price. I'm all for spending that money on Pogba, Griezmann etc. but this is absurd imo. I'm surprised more people don't seem to feel this way.
No I don't, but then I've not said that I do ... so why raise the point?
PS. Selectively quoting from Eriksen just makes you look foolish. What he actually said was: "In the future I see myself at the highest level. That’s what I dream about. That could be in two to three years. It could be at a different club or it could be at Tottenham, if we have got all the way to that level."
But is he an Alpha yet? And will he huff and puff and still not be able to blow that parked bus down..
So what exactly are you evening arguing then? We clearly finished behind Tottenham this year so you were the better team in the league. I don't think anyone can disagree with that
Reminder - This is the Mbappe transfer thread.
When the Real Madrid fans are so impatient that they are capable of booing Ronaldo then I think it would be foolish to go there at this stage of his career.
They don't provide a forgiving environment for developing players.
They don't provide a forgiving environment for developing players.
The problem isn't as much the price tag as the pressure that comes with it. We bought some of europes most promising players in Depay and Martial. Depay couldn't handle the pressure and even though Martial had an excellent first season this one he has left me a bit worried. If we would spend 100M on Mbappe and with that price tag he would be first on the team sheet... What if he cant cope with the PL, the pressure of being United's main man? I'm not saying I wouldn't want him here but it's a big risk. If we pay that amount of money for one player we should get a finished product.
Because it's rather hard to understand what you're actually saying. You seem to be saying that United doesn't have one of the top 5 sides in the world, which is pretty damn obvious given there's 5 teams within England that finished above us in the league, let alone the rest of the European giants; but if that is actually all you're saying then it seems a pretty pointless and obvious thing to be pointing out.
What the others are saying is that we all know the side isn't good enough (it's bloody obvious) but despite that we're still one of the 5 biggest clubs in world football, along with Madrid, Barca, Bayern and I suppose Juve.
Most stars in the Ligue 1 translate well in all other leagues, Mbappe would have no issue in the Premier League. He comes much better prepared than Martial and Martial was a handful in the league most games last season.
I haven't made ANY claim that Manchester United are a top 5 football team in the world, they aren't. I debated your point. You claimed that they way to tell if a teams was top 5 would be if they "finish above 6th place in their domestic league, nor spend three seasons out of the last four inside the top 4 in their domestic league.", So by your own words you seem to think that spurs is that club.
Manchester United clearly are not a top 5 team in the world and I never claimed they are. You however actually believe spurs are based on your own very strange criteria list. I've never seen such a poster like you on any forum. I don't even know why you post to be frank, literally every post is pro spurs and anti united. If Spurs are so great why do they win nothing?
3 months ago, barely anyone heard of this guy and now he's worth 100m? Give me a break.
He looks like a good wee player but it would be absurd to give that much for him on the back of a few good performances. What is Rashford worth?
He looks like a good wee player but it would be absurd to give that much for him on the back of a few good performances. What is Rashford worth?
What
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Pass the crack pipe son
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...Henry-helps-hosts-7-0-win-against-Rennes.html
http://www.espnfc.com/story/3023344...al-madrid-and-zinedine-zidane-for-monaco-move
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...attracting-Arsenal-Liverpool-s-attention.html
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2892...03402/liverpool-tracking-monaco-talent-mbappe
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1722/li...lian-mbappe-the-new-thierry-henry-targeted-by
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Kylian-Mbappe-s-just-17-played-14-games.html
http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/4016...312/rumours-arsenal-eye-monaco-starlet-mbappe
http://www.beinsports.com/us/ligue-1/news/ousmane-dembele-and-kylian-mbappe-could-well-/213053
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/sg/feat...en-who-might-be-europes-most-wanted-youngster
This was just me typing Mbappe 2016 in news haha there's about 100 more, don't pass off your ignorance as gospel. Half the fecking football world knew about this guy before 2016 even ended lol
Rashford is worth a hell of a lot more than he was 18 months ago. In Mbappe's case, being wanted by a handful of wealthy clubs will obviously make his valuation soar. Ordinarily, he may go for about 50m. With all the desperate competition, he will likely go for 115.
Rashford is worth a hell of a lot less in my view. That initial season he was upfront scoring in every debut of competitions and completely battering teams in a completely uncreative Manchester United. If we were to sell it would have been a mega sum, now I'd happily take 50 for him. He has dropped a level and looks to be another flash in the pan.
He isn't Rooney the kid scoring so so consistently and dominating prem defenders, Rashford isn't scoring very often, doesn't look good enough to lead the line and isn't a good winger.
So where does he fit, I don't think he will ever be good enough to be the main man like a Kane scoring 30 a season, I hope I'm wrong ofcourse but I can't see it.
So in short I think Rashfords value is definitely lower then after his breakout season
He's only 19 and will continue to improve. If he broke through at age 24 and was 25 this year then he would obviously be worth far less. The fact that he has a full career ahead and is prem proven as a teenager elevates his value, although obviously not at Mbappe levels for the reasons I noted in my last.
Wenger is both a notorious cheapskate and one of the most astute judges of young talent in the game. Arsenal won't land Mbappe but the very fact that Wenger is willing to bid £100m for an 18-year-old tells you all you need to know about his talent level. He is the best teenage player since Messi and serious people in the game realize that and are trying to figure out what it might be worth in the new financial environment. There hasn't really been another player like this since football finances and transfer fees went through the roof over the last decade.
130m Euros for a 19yr old with just one senior season is a ridiculous amount. Although having said that pretty sure there were reports last season that City wanted to sign him for 40-50m Euros so he's been on the radar of the scouts for a very long time.
Francis Jeffers? I feel you are giving Wenger to much credit. Yes Henry Viera (bought these guys and were well known in France) and Anelka but in reality Anelka was the only youth player along with Fabregas Cole and Wilshire that he has brought through of any note over 20 years and he nicked 2 of them out the last 4 from other academies. Look at Fergies record in comparison it would be his opinion I'd be seeking if anybody's.
Its not just Wenger though, its Mourinho, Pep, Zidane and i'm sure many others. This kid is the real deal.
Yeah I agree but just pointing out about Wenger and his so called genius touch with young players. Fergie was much better.
Eh, Wenger has a very good record when actually spending money on young players but that wasn't the point of my post so lets not derail the thread. The bigger point is that many top managers are willing to spend unprecedented money on an 18-year-old and that speaks to him being a very, very unusual talent.
Well it is not really their money.
If I were Monaco, I would sell him this summer to the highest bidder cos the likelihood of his value dropping is higher than it rising further
Wenger, 130 million?
Well he has been saving for over a decade.
Well he has been saving for over a decade.
That's not really true is it.
From a business point of view perhaps. But I'm sure they would like to win the league again, and challenge in the CL. And I'm quite sure clubs will want him next summer too.
If he has a good WC next year he could be the first 200 million footballer.
and we can also have another starlet burst on the scene next season. The 100m is already a crazy evaluation for a teenager, particularly in a sport where injuries can easily limit a career (e.g. van basten and el fenomeno)
With 100m, and all the money from other players being sold, Monaco can easily assemble a squad capable of winning ligue 1 and contending in the CL
Can't imagine Monaco selling all their stars.
1. Silva (Gone)
2. Mbappe
3. Fabinho
4. Bakayoko
5. Mendy
They will have to be selective.
1. Silva (Gone)
2. Mbappe
3. Fabinho
4. Bakayoko
5. Mendy
They will have to be selective.
I'd say it's better value than the £47m Spurs spent on Janssen and Sissoko.
All you do is moan on this forum or tell us how great Spurs are. Why are you even here?
130M 
That's insane, and we should in no way get involved in that kind of madness. Personally i don't think he will go for that amount, but if the figures are close to it, i would avoid. He'd be better served staying where he is for now, for the good of his career.
That's insane, and we should in no way get involved in that kind of madness. Personally i don't think he will go for that amount, but if the figures are close to it, i would avoid. He'd be better served staying where he is for now, for the good of his career.We all love Rashford, but it's clear that Mbappe is a close above right now. His movement and finishing is much better at present.
People say he's only had 1 full pro season, but he's done more in 8 months than many seasoned pro's.
He gave Juve big trouble, was a nightmare for City and Dortmund. If you can do that in the CL at the highest level, I'm sure he won't struggle in the premier league ffs.
Yes the figure is huge money, but if he's going to be the next best player after Ronaldo/Messi then surely it's worth it?
I can see him joining Madrid and everybody moaning why we didn't match it.
130M
I really think the kid should stay and develop or he would have an Anelka like career. £130m rather put £50m on that and try and get Neymar.
He's not going to be the next best thing after Ronaldo and Messi though.
Your opinion, I think he's amazing.
Sure he probably won't reach their lofty standards, but he could go onto be an Henry level striker. Definitely Balon D'or material.
I will just put this out there. Mbappe's 26 goals this season(all comps) is more than Morata or Dybala have ever had in a season. And he is someone who was mostly coming off the bench at the start of the season.
Exactly. Yes you could argue it was just a purple patch in a high scoring team, but his goals weren't flukes. Many of them were made by his movement to get on the end of crosses, of him dropping a shoulder and bursting passed the defender and finishing. That sort of ability just doesn't die overnight.
Anyway there's no point arguing about it, some people will see the figure and believe it's not worth the risk - fair enough. We paid half that for a relatively unknown Martial, considering what Mbappe has already done I think he's worth it.
You think he's worth over 100 million? Why?
Mbappe seems to be very focused and Real are so strong currently that I'm sure he'd immediately slot in there and do well. But there's no rush for him and he probably doesn't want to risk it with a World Cup at the end of the season.
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