Because they're good players, what they aren't, is good enough to be freed of defensive duties. If Neymar isn't good enough not to track back, Martial better fecking get use to doing so too. Not one player in our squad is good enough to warrant ignoring their defensive duties, they all need to contribute.
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Because they're good players, what they aren't, is good enough to be freed of defensive duties. If Neymar isn't good enough not to track back, Martial better fecking get use to doing so too. Not one player in our squad is good enough to warrant ignoring their defensive duties, they all need to contribute.
Not in a 3 man midfeild with someone like fabinho if he is bought. Defensive duties ask too much of a players who's bodies are not built for than for full game. Young players lack energy and defensive duties waste a lot of it in tracking back.
Might as well throw the kitchen sink at Mbappe.
As sad as it is, we are the only team that can offer him a guaranteed starting spot every week.
Reckon he would seamlessly integrate into the Pogba/Lingard/Martial clique.
As sad as it is, we are the only team that can offer him a guaranteed starting spot every week.
Reckon he would seamlessly integrate into the Pogba/Lingard/Martial clique.
I'm hoping Perez wants this guy as his galatico signing this summer. That way, we may just have a chance to sign Bale
Martial should be made to see this kid's off the ball movement the entire summer.
We spent a lot on Rooney, that went well
Not sure about this.
I doubt he will come here anyway and to be honest we need an experienced forward to lead the line. I would love him here if we had someone banging in 40+ goals and he is expected to lead the line in couple of years or so.
I am surprised why we are not all out for someone like lewondoski, he is worth every dollar and just the guy we need to lead the line. Not sure if he is interested in coming to Manchester
I am surprised why we are not all out for someone like lewondoski, he is worth every dollar and just the guy we need to lead the line. Not sure if he is interested in coming to Manchester
He had extended his contract till 2021 and Bayern would never going to sell him for whatever price it may be.
Look I do not know if Mbappe is the next great player. There are indications he is...
But what I can tell you is 7 of the last 10 CL finals were won by Ronaldo or Messi so having a great player seems pretty important to CL success is all I am saying
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But what I can tell you is 7 of the last 10 CL finals were won by Ronaldo or Messi so having a great player seems pretty important to CL success is all I am saying
.Bayern dont sell their top players. Thats how we should be.
If he is a one season wonder than something seriously would have gone wrong. He looks like a once in a generation type and at so young as well
I agree in principle. I'm pretty neutral on it as there is a middle ground. I don't get the feeling that our players are being held back because of defensive duties. It's their lack of incisiveness when they attack. And this is even in games we dominate so It's very easy and lazy to pass the buck with the " defensive shackles" myth.
Neymar doesn't track back because Messi is better and they can't cover for both of them. It makes sense for players who are better attacking to stay further forward. As long as they're covered (Rakitic for Messi) it doesn't really matter. You don't have to be some exceptional talent because, on a team level, defensive obligations aren't neglected.
Fantastic talent and whilst it's gonna take stupid money to get him, I think it's possible. The usual suspects can't accommodate him without upsetting their already world class talent and the rest can't afford him.
Just came across this little gem, and the answer would be yes, because if we do end up paying 58m for Martial then he'd be in the Balon d'Or shortlist, which would make him easily worth 58m, a lot of transfers consist of clauses, Martial has cost us a little more than Sissoko cost you.
I think he is legit. I just dont see us getting him.
Ouch lol good reply
I've got a medical app on my phone detailing the protocol for burns.
May need to open it up for GlastyMcNasty
yeah, not that I think anyone else would get him this season at least. He would be something that would trigger our next resurgence. Seems to be a player that will just spark everyone into life and be the difference in side that desperately needs an edge.
why do you insist on stamping all over the hopes of fans who's teams have not won anything since TV was invented and only recourse is falsely claiming that we overpaid for a player when in fact their worst player cost the same?
why yum why?
The difference is that I admit Sissoko was not value for money. But you have already paid £6m more Martial ... and many of the further add-ons - which may rise to another £22m - are not dependent on the Ballon do'r shortlist.
Only United fans would claim that £58m for Martial is value for money ... essentially because some of you have lost all sense of proportion.
Who told you that? At best people say that if he costs that, then he will be worth it.
Not to mention Martial has clear talent, he was worth the initial fee on the first season, not so much on the second, but this is a young player that is far too early in his career to make any kind of definitive judgement. I just don't think the fact that we have Martial and Rashford here should make any impact on whether it'd be worth going after a goalscorer like Mbappe. Age is meaningless with this kid, only injuries will stop him from becoming a top 5 goalscorer throughout his career.
Big clubs tend to pay more for young promising footballers than smaller ones trying to sign an average player at his peak from a relegated side.
Whether or not Martial will prove good value very much remains to be seen.
No such doubt about Sissoko.
The best team in the world?
Bales already said he signed a long contract last year and intends to stay. He also added he had won 3 CL in 4 years, he isnt going to leave a team that good as he is starting or coming on as a sub as long as hes fit.
Errr what?
The only add-ons left are based on his international appearances, and the Balon D'or. There's no other add ons.
All three of his add-ons cost ~£22m in total, I'm not sure where you're calculating a further £22m from, we have ~£14m left to pay, including if he makes Balon D'or.
You are wrong there. This was the deal and ive lifted this straight from Sky sports, although its the same in other press outlets as well
'The document says the initial fee of 50m Euros (£38.5m) for the player is to be paid in two instalments - €20m (£15.4m) within three days of his transfer, and €30m (£23.1m) on July 1.
There are then three further potential payments - €10m (£7.7m) if the player scores 25 first-team goals for Manchester United, €10m (£7.7m) if Martial makes 25 appearances for the French national team and €10m (£7.7m) more if the player is ever nominated for the Ballon d'Or award.
There is also a sell-on clause inserted in the deal, with Monaco due to be paid 50 per cent of any transfer fee between €60m and €100m United receive for the player'
Thanks for information. So you've already paid £46.2m for him, with another possible £15.4m to pay. Do you regard that as value for money so far?
How many of our top players have we sold?
His first season was superb his second season meh. He still has a lot to prove but better than Jansen or Sissoko or Lamela from what I've seen.
Do you think 60m for a future Balon D'or nominee would be a bad deal?
Even if we sold him now we would lose nothing or very little on what he has cost us so far. We negotiated a really good deal.
Next season is a big season for him though.
Only Glaston would repeatedly insist we have paid £58mil despite being told on numerous occasions we have not. For it to be 58mil he'd still need to become a France first team regular and be nominated for the Ballon do'r.
We signed Martial at 19 years old, at the same age Kane was on loan at Norwich having an above average season. Certainly, Norwich supporters will tell you they did not think Kane would amount to anything special. Since then Martial has had one very good season and one slightly below average. Martial will be entering next season the same age as Kane was when he break into Spurs first team. I think we should wait until we deem him a success or failure, don't you?
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Is that sell on clause really correct? It would mean selling him for 59 million would result in us receiving a better deal than selling him for 100 million. We'd need to sell him for 110 million to recoup the amount we've currently paid!
I suspect it would mean we'd get all of the first 60 million and then have to give Monaco 50% of anything over 60 million. So if we sold him for 80 million Monaco would get 10 million and we'd get 70
In footballing terms, yes. But of course the bar is set higher considering the money involved.
Stakes will always be higher at Manchester Utd than Spurs, it's just the nature of being a top 5 club in World football.
Not really no. I was just showing you the add ons and when they have been met. I als cant see him being here long unless he dramatically improves, or Mourinho uses him as an add on to get a better player. Did you see the Pogba video after they had won the EL cup? He was sitting on his own not enjoying the frivolity going on.
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