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Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy
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The arsenal school of arsenic negotiation skillsIf you're not sure which one is dumber, whether you realise it or not you think the price is fair.
Exactly and if Monaco thinks they can get more than that for him then fair play to them. This is a good opportunity for them to either fleece another club big time or to keep a talented player in their ranks. A win-win scenario for them.
Those bids and reported numbers are bs.
Is this kid really worth £100 million?
Like really, really worth it?
Seems like such a huge risk.
Like really, really worth it?
Seems like such a huge risk.
Every striker out there is being valued at 100M anyways. I would rather go for him now that Griezmann isn't coming. After Neymar and Dembele, he's got a very high potential to succeed in world football. His numbers were phenomenal. Yes, it could be one season but this guy scored a bunch of goals in Europe against the best, that can't be a fluke. Buy him for 100M and keep him for 5-6 years and sell him to Madrid for 175-200M. Simple Math to me.
No he isn't. If he performs at a similar/better level next season THEN I think we can talk about this kid being the real deal and being worth that sort of cash. Right now people are going way overboard because of a fantastic second half of a season. We have seen this many times before and people never learn - we still don't know if this is how he will be for the rest of his career or if he has just had a fantastic run of form for a few months. It's way too early to say some of the stuff that some people in this thread have been saying.
It would be a HUGE risk to spend that sort of cash on him now.
The fact that he'd obviously like to play for Madrid is also a tad concerning.
Constant rumours of him leaving every season, tapping up from Madrid to unsettle him, huge price tag on his head.
Then if he actually does do well here, us potentially selling him to Madrid when he is in his prime.
I just can't see it working out for the best personally.
Nope. Like 90% of the " ****' has made a 100 million bid for *****" out there stories it's just stories planted by agents driving up prices.
Anyone paying £100 million for a young lad with one decent season under his belt is taking a massive, some might say stupid risk.
Second season is the big one because you get targeted, people have watched what you're all about and go out there to stop you and most of all there's a huge difference between performing well as an unknown prospect and doing it when it's expected. Case in point - Anthony Martial, great last year, not this and a lot of that is due to him having to deal with the pressure and living up to the hype.
If we spend £100 million on a player he needs to play. Starting an 18 year old kid in a side which needs a regular, consistent goalscorer next season is madness.
Mbappe future success will depend on the team he moves to. If he goes to an attacking team, he will continue to bang in the goals on a regular basis. I Will continue to watch him in the future and regret that we did not sign him because he was "too young".
I feel like whatever club he plays for that isnt Madrid is going to suffer in the worst way once Perez starts flirting and forcing the Marca articles about his professed love and dreams to be Ronaldo's successor. Mainly because I can see him definitely leaving whatever club that is
There's a huge risk for Monaco here that Mbappé doesn't replicate the same form next season and his value drops to fractional amounts of what's being quoted here. The upside just isn't as great. No matter how good he performs next season his value isn't going to exponentially increase because there's only that much money clubs will spend on a player.
If they are going to sell him in future, might as well do it now and concentrate on developing there squad. It's different if they are thinking long term future with Mbappé leading the line for years to come.
If they are going to sell him in future, might as well do it now and concentrate on developing there squad. It's different if they are thinking long term future with Mbappé leading the line for years to come.
Oh yeah Monaco will be licking their lips at the thought of somebody paying close to £100 million for him - they will snap their arm off if they have any sense. It's very possible that Mbappé will never be more sought after than he is right at this moment so they could cash in massively.
Eh? No it means he thinks that it's well above Mbappe's value. That's why he's not sure if Arsenal are the ones who are stupid for bidding such a high amount or if Monaco are stupid for rejecting such a high amount.
Age is just a number. if you're good enough, you're old enough. I know it's a lot of money that's being thrown around for someone with one season under his belt but we had a punt with Martial who was mediocre at Monaco. All I'm saying is that part of the reason that Monaco went so far in the Champions League and won the Ligue 1 title was because of him. It's not really a risk in my book. If that's the case, maybe we could use Martial in the deal and bring that price down especially since we've been looking for Perisic.
On a side note, I rather have Dembele from Dortmund. I think he's a phenomenal talent.
That's just meaningless rhetoric.
This lad lives at home with his mum apparently. He plays where he's played all his career. If you think it's guaranteed that an 18 year old kid isn't going to have difficulties with a world record price tag, a move to a big city, mega millions in wages and all the press attention and hangers on that might bring you're dreaming.
The suggestion you'd part willingly with Martial highlights what modern football and a lot of modern fans are all about. Buy a young kid, praise him for 6 months when he looks like a world beater and then bin him as soon as he hits a shaky patch.
The irony here is that attitude from fans to quick to praise or criticise is exactly why a £100 million 18 year old might struggle to fulfil his potential and suffer under the pressure.
If we spend mega money on 18 year old Mbappe after spending big on Martial with very mixed results then we're officially run by cowboys. Yi-hah!
With people saying he needs to do it consistently so we know he's not a one season wonder....didnt a lot say that about kane
And if Real splash 40m on a 16 year old and bid another 130m on Mbappe what does that make them?
Yes and Kane has definitely proven he's not a one season wonder. Let's see if young Mbappe can do the same. Won't be easy if he moves to a big club imo.
Who is going to break the world record to sign Mbappe?
Real? Maybe. They could play him and rotate with Benzema. But since he already dreams about playing for them, why not let him move to another club and buy him 2-3 years down the road?
Bayern? They already have Lewa, and Bayern are very shrewd in their business dealings.
United? We can afford him. But is he a Jose type of player? Or will Jose think we could end up with a similar situation to Martial? What happens then to Rashford & Martial. Will these many youngsters in our forward line be able to shoulder the responsibility?
Barsa? Who of the MSN would get benched or sold? Surely Mbappe wouldn't take Suarez spot.
Arsenal? As ridiculous as it seems, he would fit in well into that team. And, unlike many of the others, they can definitely guarantee him playing time.
Monaco. Wouldn't it be better for him to stay one more year? But at the prices mentioned, Monaco must want to sell the youngster, and laugh all the way to the bank.
Real? Maybe. They could play him and rotate with Benzema. But since he already dreams about playing for them, why not let him move to another club and buy him 2-3 years down the road?
Bayern? They already have Lewa, and Bayern are very shrewd in their business dealings.
United? We can afford him. But is he a Jose type of player? Or will Jose think we could end up with a similar situation to Martial? What happens then to Rashford & Martial. Will these many youngsters in our forward line be able to shoulder the responsibility?
Barsa? Who of the MSN would get benched or sold? Surely Mbappe wouldn't take Suarez spot.
Arsenal? As ridiculous as it seems, he would fit in well into that team. And, unlike many of the others, they can definitely guarantee him playing time.
Monaco. Wouldn't it be better for him to stay one more year? But at the prices mentioned, Monaco must want to sell the youngster, and laugh all the way to the bank.
People keep saying he dreams of Madrid when he's never actually mentioned anything of the sort. I'm not saying it's necessarily untrue, but this could very likely be a whole lot of bs journalism as well.
Bit like how Auba would only move to Real. Or that De Gea is bound to leave us to Real.
Or he blows out his cruciate mid-season, nobody wants to buy him while rehabbing next summer, and its not until summer 2019 when he goes on the market again, maybe having never regained the form he just showed this spring.
Monaco really should sell him somewhere given their size and resources.
I disagree. If Mbappe has a good World Cup next year he could be a 150m-200m player. Monaco would be be better to keep him and sell him after the WC, Mbappe also would be best advised to not move to a new club before WC year.
Of course he's isn't. It's only because he's been so lethal at such a young age so it's a complete anomaly and the recent transfers have allowed the hype around Mbappe to raise his rumoured/potential fee so such heights. He appears to be a special young player. But I do find it amusing how 100 million is attached to just anyone these days - an 18 year old kid, a physical striker in Belotti, Lukaku. It's all very weird. I suppose we've played our part with our ridiculous spending.
Agreed, it's mental. 100m for Belotti is complete madness.
I'm not even sure that one is entirely serious given how people speak of him.
Owen looked just as good at 18. Potential was there but a few injuries and a bit of burn out, never quite made it to world class.
How wasn't Owen world class? Did he win the Ballon Dor or come second? That's pretty fecking class to me lol
Hopefully back-to-back European Champions
1 season in football and they are rejecting £87m bids....absolutely insane.
Pogba is going to look like a steal this timer next summer.
Pogba is going to look like a steal this timer next summer.
Like it or not, it is a sellers market atm when it comes to the Mbappes of this world. Monaco have no real incentive to sell now because his value can only go up if he has a good WC. If he doesn't, well, clubs will stay pay what they're offering now.
What I don't understand is this fear regarding Real coming in for him though. If a club buys him for 100mil(like it or not, that's what it will take, Real would have to double it 2-3yrs down the line if he progresses well. That's very difficult to say the least. Safe to say, if a club like ours get him, Real would be priced out of a future deal no matter how much they want him.
What I don't understand is this fear regarding Real coming in for him though. If a club buys him for 100mil(like it or not, that's what it will take, Real would have to double it 2-3yrs down the line if he progresses well. That's very difficult to say the least. Safe to say, if a club like ours get him, Real would be priced out of a future deal no matter how much they want him.
Yup, I said this when we got him as well. The way money is flowing into the game, his deal will look like a bargain in a few years if he does well. Prices are going to go absolutely crazy even by today's already ridiculous standards.
£100 million is laughable.
You need only look at Martial to see what a gamble Mbappe would be.
This time last year (after a fantastic debut season at United) we'd be valuing Martial at £100 million. After a dreadful second season, there wouldn't be many that would value him at even half that figure.
What's to say that Mbappe isn't going to have a stinker next year?
The only striker I'd pay £100 million for is Kane. He's proven year after year that he can do it on a consistent basis in the premier league.
You need only look at Martial to see what a gamble Mbappe would be.
This time last year (after a fantastic debut season at United) we'd be valuing Martial at £100 million. After a dreadful second season, there wouldn't be many that would value him at even half that figure.
What's to say that Mbappe isn't going to have a stinker next year?
The only striker I'd pay £100 million for is Kane. He's proven year after year that he can do it on a consistent basis in the premier league.
Rooney was also young, inexperienced and pricy too. Many years of great service.
100m now is just what rooney would have cost
100m now is just what rooney would have cost
This guy is insanely talented, look what he is doing at 18 on the biggest stage.
He is the exact profile of player we associate with Manchester United. Young, potential, fearless, powerful, rapid and most importantly an expectional player on the rise. We should throw everything we have at securing this guy and make him our number 1 target. We need this kind of player in our armoury.
The martial comparisons are lazy, he has never produced anything similar to this level with his numbers or performances.
To say him and rashford are too similar is madness, they both have similar attributes but what they share would allow us to add a new impetus to our game.
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