Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy

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------Pogba---Herrera------
Mkhi------------------Martial
------Rashford-Mbappe-----

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Won't work for Martial. He'd need to play exclusively as a winger in a 442. Only way it can work is if all three play in a fluid front three.
 
Won't work for Martial. He'd need to play exclusively as a winger in a 442. Only way it can work is if all three play in a fluid front three.

The easiest and most sensible thing would be to do what Monaco are currently doing and rotate the three strikers, if Mourinho scrupulously respect their turn they will all be happy. We sign Saul to play on the left, Fabinho to upgrade Herrera and we are golden.

--------Rashford---Mbappé
Saul----------------------Mkhi
--------Pogba--Fabinho
 
Won't work for Martial. He'd need to play exclusively as a winger in a 442. Only way it can work is if all three play in a fluid front three.
Yeah it's got no balance at all, was just a way of fitting those sexy players into a team. I'd hope we could find a way to play 2 up top though.
 
------Pogba---Herrera------
Mkhi------------------Martial
------Rashford-Mbappe-----

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My guess would be Mkhitaryan missing out on any starting XI that included all 3 strikers. I'd prefer 3 midfielders too.

Fabinho - Pogba - Herrera would be quality.
 
My guess would be Mkhitaryan missing out on any starting XI that included all 3 strikers. I'd prefer 3 midfielders too.

Fabinho - Pogba - Herrera would be quality.

I would love this midfield. Very achievable too.

I have a sneaky feeling City might poach Mbappe. I expect them to splash the cash again this summer.
 
I would love this midfield. Very achievable too.

I have a sneaky feeling City might poach Mbappe. I expect them to splash the cash again this summer.

Yea, been suggested that a city would try for him, although I'm not sure where they would play him. With a one-striker system, and Aguero and Jesus, I don't recall see room for Mbappé there.

Fabinho, I agree, would complete our midfield.
 
So....According to various outlets the upcoming summer we're getting all of the Griezmann, Bernardo Silva, Mbappe, and Belotti. Just have to give credit to Woody, remarkable work.
 
So....According to various outlets the upcoming summer we're getting all of the Griezmann, Bernardo Silva, Mbappe, and Belotti. Just have to give credit to Woody, remarkable work.

And Oblak if DDG goes.
 
I agree he already looks a level above Rashford. Has Henry written all over him. Would be an amazing signing and both him and Rashford in the team/squad would terrify teams for years to come. Pace, skill, finishing.

Martial. Well I said in the unpopular opinions thread that I could see him leaving in the next 2 seasons when he doesn't get opportunities at striker (he is not a great winger and doesn't want to be either). The signing of Mbappe would almost be the nail in the coffin.
 
So....According to various outlets the upcoming summer we're getting all of the Griezmann, Bernardo Silva, Mbappe, and Belotti. Just have to give credit to Woody, remarkable work.

I bet you we get at least a couple of them or equal calibre.
 
If he wants to become the world's best striker then he needs to come to Arsenal and play under the best developer of young talent in football. I can't think of a young player who hasn't improved in some aspect under Wenger. Even the ones who didn't go on to greatness because of injuries or attitude problems, like Bendnter, became better players during their time here.

Play for us for a few years, help us win the league and then move to Madrid for a record fee.

EDIT:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...nal-sign-Kylian-Mbappe-says-Robert-Pires.html

I wonder if Bobby does something we don't or if he's just speculating.
 
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If he wants to become the world's best striker then he needs to come to Arsenal and play under the best developer of young talent in football. I can't think of a young player who hasn't improved in some aspect under Wenger.

Play for us for a few years, help us win the league and then move to Madrid for a record fee.
Took me a minute to realise you were talking about playstation and not real life.
 
If he wants to become the world's best striker then he needs to come to Arsenal and play under the best developer of young talent in football. I can't think of a young player who hasn't improved in some aspect under Wenger. Even the ones who didn't go on to greatness because of injuries or attitude problems, like Bendnter, became better players during their time here.

Play for us for a few years, help us win the league and then move to Madrid for a record fee.
:lol:
 
If he wants to become the world's best striker then he needs to come to Arsenal and play under the best developer of young talent in football. I can't think of a young player who hasn't improved in some aspect under Wenger. Even the ones who didn't go on to greatness because of injuries or attitude problems, like Bendnter, became better players during their time here.

Play for us for a few years, help us win the league and then move to Madrid for a record fee.

Lol! Brilliant, thanks for that, I'd had a rough morning, but it's encouraging to know some people still believe in unicorns, Wenger & the like...

Arguably Van Gaal has more of a claim to that than Wenger. I'd hardly say Wilkshire, Welbeck, Ramsey, Ox, Walcott etc have even fulfilled their early potential.
 
Editing in a tidbit about Bendner to sell the Mbappe move :lol:. Let's hope Arsenal have a better sales pitch than that.
 
Lol! Brilliant, thanks for that, I'd had a rough morning, but it's encouraging to know some people still believe in unicorns, Wenger & the like...

Arguably Van Gaal has more of a claim to that than Wenger. I'd hardly say Wilshere, Welbeck, Ramsey, Ox, Walcott etc have even fulfilled their early potential.

You can adds Gibbs to that list too. I think the poster must be stuck in 2004 if he thinks Arsenal have a chance at winning the league or that Wenger is great at nurturing talent.
 
Lol! Brilliant, thanks for that, I'd had a rough morning, but it's encouraging to know some people still believe in unicorns, Wenger & the like...

Arguably Van Gaal has more of a claim to that than Wenger. I'd hardly say Wilkshire, Welbeck, Ramsey, Ox, Walcott etc have even fulfilled their early potential.

Wilshere, Welbeck, Ramsey and Ox have all suffered from injury problems. The latter two have come a long way from the players they were when they first arrived. Walcott was a one note player who only knew how to run in a straight line when he first arrived, but Wenger managed to turn him into a >10 goal a season winger. That is a good return for a player with such a limited all round game like Walcott, who can neither dribble or hold up play.

Gibbs was never that talented to begin with and is injur prone to boot, Wenger is good developer of talent but he can't turn water into wine.

He even managed to improve someone like Ozil, who hardly scored and was gassed in every game at the 70 minute mark. Now he's added goals to his game and his all around fitness has improved. He has to create chances for players like Giroud instead of Ronaldo so his assist ratio has gone down but I still think he's a better player than he was in his first season here.

I said Wenger develops young talent and improves their game but other factors will determine whether they fulfill their full potential.If Mbappe is going to become the best, he has to remain injury free, maintain the right attitude and work hard. Wenger will provide the best environment for him to do that. His tactics may be outdated and he's lost a step in the transfer market, but there is no one better out there at bringing up young players and giving them the opportunity to shine.
 
If he wants to become the world's best striker then he needs to come to Arsenal and play under the best developer of young talent in football. I can't think of a young player who hasn't improved in some aspect under Wenger. Even the ones who didn't go on to greatness because of injuries or attitude problems, like Bendnter, became better players during their time here.

Play for us for a few years, help us win the league and then move to Madrid for a record fee.

EDIT:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...nal-sign-Kylian-Mbappe-says-Robert-Pires.html

I wonder if Bobby does something we don't or if he's just speculating.

Hahaha, you cannot be serious?! :lol:

Gibbs, Walcott, Oxlaide-Chamberlain, Jenkinson, Wilshere, Chambers.... and that's just the English lot. All have seen their careers stall and growth stunted. Walcott is as inconsistent and predictable as he was at the age of 17.
 
If he wants to become the world's best striker then he needs to come to Arsenal and play under the best developer of young talent in football. I can't think of a young player who hasn't improved in some aspect under Wenger. Even the ones who didn't go on to greatness because of injuries or attitude problems, like Bendnter, became better players during their time here.

Play for us for a few years, help us win the league and then move to Madrid for a record fee.

EDIT:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...nal-sign-Kylian-Mbappe-says-Robert-Pires.html

I wonder if Bobby does something we don't or if he's just speculating.

:lol:
 
He even managed to improve someone like Ozil, who hardly scored and was gassed in every game at the 70 minute mark. Now he's added goals to his game and his all around fitness has improved. He has to create chances for players like Giroud instead of Ronaldo so his assist ratio has gone down but I still think he's a better player than he was in his first season here.
If anything, he has mollycoddled him and made him even more complacent than before. I don't think I agree with anything you've said, really.

If Mbappe wants to become the best in the world, he doesn't NEED to go to Arsenal to do that. There's a fair few better clubs he can develop at.
 
If he wants to become the world's best striker then he needs to come to Arsenal and play under the best developer of young talent in football. I can't think of a young player who hasn't improved in some aspect under Wenger. Even the ones who didn't go on to greatness because of injuries or attitude problems, like Bendnter, became better players during their time here.

Play for us for a few years, help us win the league and then move to Madrid for a record fee.

EDIT:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...nal-sign-Kylian-Mbappe-says-Robert-Pires.html

I wonder if Bobby does something we don't or if he's just speculating.

Arsenal are unlikely to spend as much as Mbappe would cost in an entire summer, nevermind on one player.
 
Wilshere, Welbeck, Ramsey and Ox have all suffered from injury problems. The latter two have come a long way from the players they were when they first arrived. Walcott was a one note player who only knew how to run in a straight line when he first arrived, but Wenger managed to turn him into a >10 goal a season winger. That is a good return for a player with such a limited all round game like Walcott, who can neither dribble or hold up play.

Gibbs was never that talented to begin with and is injur prone to boot, Wenger is good developer of talent but he can't turn water into wine.

He even managed to improve someone like Ozil, who hardly scored and was gassed in every game at the 70 minute mark. Now he's added goals to his game and his all around fitness has improved. He has to create chances for players like Giroud instead of Ronaldo so his assist ratio has gone down but I still think he's a better player than he was in his first season here.

I said Wenger develops young talent and improves their game but other factors will determine whether they fulfill their full potential.If Mbappe is going to become the best, he has to remain injury free, maintain the right attitude and work hard. Wenger will provide the best environment for him to do that. His tactics may be outdated and he's lost a step in the transfer market, but there is no one better out there at bringing up young players and giving them the opportunity to shine.

Really? The major example of a player Wenger has actually developed in the last 5 years is Ozil... and the reason is doesn't show is because of the underdeveloped nature of the players around him?
 
He even managed to improve someone like Ozil.

:lol: Özil looks a shadow of the player who left Madrid, half the time I watch him he absolutely should be dragged off at the 70 min mark still.

And as for "he added goals"....

Real Madrid - 105 games, 19 goals
Arsenal - 107 games, 21 goals


So considering he was often pulled after 70 mins at Madrid, I'd say he's gotten worse at the goalscoring at Arsenal.
 
If he wants to become the world's best striker then he needs to come to Arsenal and play under the best developer of young talent in football. I can't think of a young player who hasn't improved in some aspect under Wenger. Even the ones who didn't go on to greatness because of injuries or attitude problems, like Bendnter, became better players during their time here.

Play for us for a few years, help us win the league and then move to Madrid for a record fee.

EDIT:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...nal-sign-Kylian-Mbappe-says-Robert-Pires.html

I wonder if Bobby does something we don't or if he's just speculating.

Would Arsenal spend upwards of 100m on an 18 year old ? Somehow I don't think so.
 
Really? The major example of a player Wenger has actually developed in the last 5 years is Ozil... and the reason is doesn't show is because of the underdeveloped nature of the players around him?

Well no, the major example would be Koscielny who came from a midtable French team and is now one of the best defenders in the country. The other would be Bellerin.

Its hard to explain/rationalize with Ozil because at Madrid he played with better players so his stats would be better and in his first year he needed time to adjust to the premier league, but in my opinion he has improved his game since he arrived.

I also don't agree with the Jenkinson shout as someone who's development stalled under Wenger. He barely looked like a footballer when he first arrived and played in that 8-2. His performance was so poor that Theo Walcott of all people was telling him where to stand, he gave whoever was on United's right wing that day the freedom of Old Trafford. At least now he looks like someone who could play in the premier league which is miles better than how he used to be.

I don't think we'll just spend 100M up front on Mbappe but we could work out something similar to the Martial deal.
 
Can't think of a player who hasn't improved under Wenger..Gives excuses why numerous players haven't improved under Wenger...
 
Well no, the major example would be Koscielny who came from a midtable French team and is now one of the best defenders in the country. The other would be Bellerin.

Its hard to explain/rationalize with Ozil because at Madrid he played with better players so his stats would be better and in his first year he needed time to adjust to the premier league, but in my opinion he has improved his game since he arrived.

I also don't agree with the Jenkinson shout as someone who's development stalled under Wenger. He barely looked like a footballer when he first arrived and played in that 8-2. His performance was so poor that Theo Walcott of all people was telling him where to stand, he gave whoever was on United's right wing that day the freedom of Old Trafford. At least now he looks like someone who could play in the premier league which is miles better than how he used to be.

I don't think we'll just spend 100M up front on Mbappe but we could work out something similar to the Martial deal.

Bellerin's gone backwards this season. For me, developement goes way beyond encouraging a player to work on their fitness (Ozil), or technique. At the sharp end of the game it's normally about the mental side of the game. I would be concerned by the mentality Arsenal have shown this season, whereas it's been obvious since Mourinho arived here that it's the mentality in the club that is changing. Thinking over all of this, I've come to a conclusion I'd never fully reached before... Wenger has to go.
 
Can't think of a player who hasn't improved under Wenger..Gives excuses why numerous players haven't improved under Wenger...

I know, and the very point in signing young players is that they will develope... If they fail to improve, you haven't broken even, it's a major loss!
 
Mbappe will be Benzema's replacement at the Bernabeu. I would keep my faith in Rashford and buy an established forward and get Dembele instead to help Rashford develop further.
 
Wilshere, Welbeck, Ramsey and Ox have all suffered from injury problems. The latter two have come a long way from the players they were when they first arrived. Walcott was a one note player who only knew how to run in a straight line when he first arrived, but Wenger managed to turn him into a >10 goal a season winger. That is a good return for a player with such a limited all round game like Walcott, who can neither dribble or hold up play.
You say this like protecting young players from development-hampering injuries isn't part of nurturing them.
 
So United will get all the top-notch wonder kids in the world even without qualifying CL yet. What the heck were we doing when Sir Alex was in charge? Does that mean we could have bought Ronaldo and Messi?
 
If he wants to become the world's best striker then he needs to come to Arsenal and play under the best developer of young talent in football. I can't think of a young player who hasn't improved in some aspect under Wenger. Even the ones who didn't go on to greatness because of injuries or attitude problems, like Bendnter, became better players during their time here.

Play for us for a few years, help us win the league and then move to Madrid for a record fee.

EDIT:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...nal-sign-Kylian-Mbappe-says-Robert-Pires.html

I wonder if Bobby does something we don't or if he's just speculating.
Wow. That is some wishful thinking.
 
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