Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy

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But the best players in the world still playing in Spain

Messi Suarez and Ronaldo yes but a new wave is coming. Players follow the money and it goes in cycles. I remember Italy 90s England 00 and then Spain with England coming again. PSG have flexed their muscles and all these leagues will always have a top few players.
 
Isn't it in the ballpark of what other clubs were offering?

Mbappé to PSG with those wages doesn't fit the narrative of blowing other favoured clubs by splashing more money but it just seems that Paris was his #1 choice from the start, reinforced by how the dealings in the summer went down.
Weren't Monaco offering €8m a year net? Madrid by all account were offering €15m gross. That's a €10m net difference over 5 years
 
Weren't Monaco offering €8m a year net? Madrid by all account were offering €15m gross. That's a €10m net difference over 5 years

I'm adding two and two but the rumor was that Monaco offered him the same wage than Falcao who allegedly reduced his wage twice and the first time by 50%, so he should be below 7m€ per year. Now when I think about it, I don't why I believed that Monaco would offer that much money to Mbappé because unlike Falcao, he is french and has to pay income taxes. The other rumor is that Monaco didn't offered that but Mbappé the same wage than Falcao.
 
Listen man, I'm from Paris so I'm not hating on anything. However, you and I both know it's a fact Mbappe was interested in Madrid before PSG (who turned down the possibility of having him in the academy), and Neymar most likely would have stayed put in Barcelona (or would have gone to Madrid as that was his first choice as a kid) over PSG if their board managed the situation better. I'm happy for PSG that they got both of those players, but it's not changing the fact that Barcelona and Real Madrid have more prestige and pull for young players than PSG will for the foreseeable future. Dembele dreamt of Barcelona, Mbappe of Madrid and they're the two best talents in France, so imagine for talents from the rest of the world.
Mbappé dreaming of Madrid is just speculation from a few posters of Cristiano in his bedroom when he was a kid and the usual Marca/As propaganda, you can't say it's 100% false for sure but nothing really serious backs it up.

PSG has attracted two of the hottest properties this summer, pull will be the last of the issues as the squad is getting closer to complete. See Real Madrid: they may have the biggest pull in world football but can barely use it due to their roster being already overstocked with world class players.

Weren't Monaco offering €8m a year net? Madrid by all account were offering €15m gross. That's a €10m net difference over 5 years
Monaco said they weren't able to offer as much as the other clubs. If he was offered the same as Falcao it would certainly be gross with him having to pay the French income tax on it.

I think the PSG wages were quoted without bonus, which can account for more than €10m over 5 years especially if there's also a sign-on fee.
 
Monaco said they weren't able to offer as much as the other clubs. If he was offered the same as Falcao it would certainly be gross with him having to pay the French income tax on it.

I think the PSG wages were quoted without bonus, which can account for more than €10m over 5 years especially if there's also a sign-on fee.
I dunno man, i just find it very weird that he was so adamant to move now, for "normal" wages given 1) what PSG are paying in transfer fee 2) the interest from so many top clubs, including PSG, wasn't going to be a one off

Generally speaking, wages tend to go hand in hand with transfer fees. If he's going to be on €5-7m a year after tax, he could have waited another year at monaco and look at what offers would have come in a year. I mean, would Monaco have been unable to come close to that offer at least?

Of course, this might just be a case of PSG promising him a massive raise in a year or two. That would make more sense
 
I dunno man, i just find it very weird that he was so adamant to move now, for "normal" wages given 1) what PSG are paying in transfer fee 2) the interest from so many top clubs, including PSG, wasn't going to be a one off

Generally speaking, wages tend to go hand in hand with transfer fees. If he's going to be on €5-7m a year after tax, he could have waited another year at monaco and look at what offers would have come in a year. I mean, would Monaco have been unable to come close to that offer at least?

Of course, this might just be a case of PSG promising him a massive raise in a year or two. That would make more sense
In every club there's a wage structure and a hierarchy between players that comes with it. Few locker rooms would accept a 18 yo kid with limited experience having the 2nd highest salary ahead of all the veteran players right off the bat. Progressive wages, bonuses and a sign-on fee seem sensible to have him start below some of the legacy players.

When you pay a record fee for a teenager you also want to keep some margin for raises in future renewal talks.
 
Is it? So as well as competing with Madrid and Barca, you want to see a few more mega rich teams tossed into the mix? 'Cos if you think Madrid and Barca will suddenly become undesirable to the vast majority of players you are sadly mistaken. It's quite strange. People's bitterness towards the success of the Spanish teams has gone beyond rational envy and has spilled into the deranged and nonsensical. What it does is knocks us down the pecking order further. But waheyyy!! Those Spaniards! Not so cocky now are they!! It's pathetic people get so excited over Arab money hoovering up. It is nothing positive for Utd, short or long term.

Another self-entitled fan! Nobody is entitled to anything...not even United. You forget there's thousands of other clubs out there who won't be remotely bothered about what's going on at the top.....or never ever get the chance to be there. I'm not bitter towards the Spanish clubs or even PSG. I just don't agree with the self-entitlement that these top clubs have. It's great to be back in the Champions League but I wasn't losing any sleep over it and was just as happy with our Europa League campaign because that was where we were at. If we did fall down the pecking order I'd still follow United. I'm guessing you would think twice?? I didn't say that Barca and Real would become less desirable but players would have other options...and that's got to be a good thing, right?
 
Is there any way of ignoring entire threads, so that they're not visible or listed for the user who's ignored it? This thread wastes my screen space when viewing the board list.
 
Is he definitely off to PSG then? I'd prefer him to go there than the Madrid because it's always nice to see Madrid get dicked in the transfer window.
 
Messi Suarez and Ronaldo yes but a new wave is coming. Players follow the money and it goes in cycles. I remember Italy 90s England 00 and then Spain with England coming again. PSG have flexed their muscles and all these leagues will always have a top few players.
Real still beating the rest, they have Isco who made the difference last year for both liga and CL and a few more youngsters including Asencio (?), Isco already won a ligue and a champions league, the best players still want to play in Spain, we can't forget Mbappe had 1 good season but for example Isco was the reason Real when so far when Bale was injured.
 
Will all this money PSG splashes around do anything for the French league in general.
I dont think it will cause this only makes PSG stronger and they'll probably win the league year in year out.
Right now going from La liga or PL to the French league is a downgrade career wise imo. Even if you win the CL.
 
Is he definitely off to PSG then? I'd prefer him to go there than the Madrid because it's always nice to see Madrid get dicked in the transfer window.
Been reported by several top sources. Appears Madrid have lost out on their target pending an official announcement.
 
Real still beating the rest, they have Isco who made the difference last year for both liga and CL and a few more youngsters including Asencio (?), Isco already won a ligue and a champions league, the best players still want to play in Spain, we can't forget Mbappe had 1 good season but for example Isco was the reason Real when so far when Bale was injured.

Neymar Pogba have turned their backs on Spain and these guys are world class as have Mbappe. Bale Suarez were transferred when Spain ruled the roosts. Not saying Barca or Madrid won't or can't sign top players but seems like some are starting to follow the money.
 
I'm certainly not a PSG fan. In fact, I couldn't give a damn if they win/lose/draw and I certainly won't be getting any Qatari money in my bank account. I am a neutral.
But seeing the butt-hurt in this thread - I'd love it if they got Mbappe and then broke the transfer record again, with another huge signing in January or next Summer, if only to see the moaning from those who only want Barca and Madrid to have the best players.
Basically, another rich player has entered the market and some old farts don't like it.

Now, MCFC would be a different story (too close to home), because they are MUFC's direct competition, so I wouldn't like to see them sweeping up the top talent. <<selfish reasons ;)
 
Looks like this is done, this is surely crime against football... RIP FFP.

It would be very funny if they ban them from the CL for 2-3 years. That will send a clear message, not that it will ever happen.
 
Will all this money PSG splashes around do anything for the French league in general.

Before Neymar signed there were reports that there was no interest in coverage of French league in Brazil any more. That changed after they signed Neymar.

PSG signing Neymar and Mbappe is good for the league even if it creates a glass ceiling for PSG (like Bayern situation in Germany).
 
If they don't comply, throw them out of the CL. Taking the piss now is PSG.
 
Think it will go through. Unless someone else comes in with a late bid, monaco can either agree to sell now for that fee, or keep him and sell him next year for half that, or lose him for nothing in two years. If the player is adamant about joining PSG now, and they agreed on the fee, they don't really have much choice
 
Think it will go through. Unless someone else comes in with a late bid, monaco can either agree to sell now for that fee, or keep him and sell him next year for half that, or lose him for nothing in two years. If the player is adamant about joining PSG now, and they agreed on the fee, they don't really have much choice

They will just pay off the right people. The marquee clubs in Europe will have to come together to stop them, use their collective brand weight to force UEFA to act.
 
They will just pay off the right people. The marquee clubs in Europe will have to come together to stop them, use their collective brand weight to force UEFA to act.
No they won't. They'll get him as a loan with obligation to buy, meaning only his wages will go against FFP for the season, they will sell two more players, get a new deal from nike and new sponsors in through neymar and should probably manage to comply with FFP. Next season it will be Mbappé(and Fabinho), but hopefully by then their revenue will have increased enough to allow them to do it
 
I think it's quite interesting that he and his family have chosen PSG. He'll presumably sign a contract for 5 or 6 years and given PSG's financial strength and attitude to other clubs trying to sign their players, it's not going to be made especially easy for him to move, if he wanted to in 4 or 5 years, when he'll still only be 23 or so. He'd probably have to run his contract down to force a move and, even then, they'd probably put him in th e stands if they lost patience with him.

So I guess they either see his long term future in France, or are being wildly optimistic about what might happen in the future.
 
No they won't. They'll get him as a loan with obligation to buy, meaning only his wages will go against FFP for the season, they will sell two more players, get a new deal from nike and new sponsors in through neymar and should probably manage to comply with FFP. Next season it will be Mbappé(and Fabinho), but hopefully by then their revenue will have increased enough to allow them to do it

More like they will invest in a few projects linked to UEFA bigwigs who will then let them inflate their state funding even further.
 
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I think it's quite interesting that he and his family have chosen PSG. He'll presumably sign a contract for 5 or 6 years and given PSG's financial strength and attitude to other clubs trying to sign their players, it's not going to be made especially easy for him to move, if he wanted to in 4 or 5 years, when he'll still only be 23 or so. He'd probably have to run his contract down to force a move and, even then, they'd probably put him in th e stands if they lost patience with him.

So I guess they either see his long term future in France, or are being wildly optimistic about what might happen in the future.
Also given his profile and expected development, there'll probably be a contract renewal in two years time. I don't see him moving until he is 26/27 if he signs now - and that'll only be on a free.
 

Agreement reached between the #Monaco #PSG around 180 million euros bonus for Kylian #Mbappé. 5-year contract for Mbappe.
 
So how many players are PSG putting on the market? Di Maria, Lucas? Anyone else?
 
Interesting way around FFP. I wonder how far ahead you could agree to make the payment? Could they sign 5 players at 150 million each and pay over the next 5 years whilst "loaning" them in the mean time?
 
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