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never one to pass up on some free pr. if it was me i’d have picked photos where i wasn’t strangling my dog or about to hog tie its legs.
Is this real? Basically confirms his girlfriend tweet was aimed at Greenwood. Which is… interesting…
I get that and agree, but let's face it when such clear video evidence of the crime is circulating widely, it's not going to be the most extensive use of resources and even if it is too much to bring him in question and build a case for the CPS, then at the very least put out a release saying we are looking to work with the RSPCA, this sort of crime is not acceptable etc.
Saying they'll do nothing in such a public circumstance, gives people impunity to carry out what the Met may view as lesser crimes regardless what evidence is available.
Why?This is just a spoof tweet.
But ye, I think his dog does have cropped ears. Personally, I'm indifferent on cropping dogs ears. I probably wouldn't choose to do it on mine. But from my expereince, tail docking should still be allowed.
But it does shine a light on animal abuse! It teaches people that booting your cat and slapping it in the face = serious police action.It's really not. He's kicked a cat across the room and that will make headlines for days. I'd hope that such a thing might shine a light on how vast the problem of animal abuse actually is, but most likely focus and energy will go towards footballers and booing and the drama of it all.
No, your original point was that what Zouma did wasn't criminal and that it's not nice to look at but not that bad. You've changed your tune quite a bit.That is basically my point. The proportion of the act.
Yeah he’s sorry he got called out for it. Absolutely pathetic.Also I’m sorry the video upset people not I’m sorry to my cat
Yep. now people can say, well Zouma didn't get investigated, why am I? can't be that serious.But it does shine a light on animal abuse! It teaches people that booting your cat and slapping it in the face = serious police action.
Feck offWhat he did was wrong but not nearly as bad as some make out. He's not injuring it or anything like that. Not nice to watch but not exactly criminal either.
Why?
If my boss sees me kicking a fecking defenceless animal across the floor, you’re better believe that I’m getting my P45. Why wouldn’t a footballer - a role where (rightly or wrongly) people see them as role models.No it's not but that doesn't mean we should end a guys career or get him sacked for kicking a cat.
As a club: Get him to apologize for it, and give him some classes on the protection on animals. Also tell him if he continues to abuse animals after this then he might face a lot more serious consequences.
That was really more in response to seeing the comments on here. It was not nearly as bad as I expected.No, your original point was that what Zouma did wasn't criminal and that it's not nice to look at but not that bad. You've changed your tune quite a bit.
Ah good to know it wasn't injured by having the shit kicked out of it. Merely "not nice to watch" fellas. Move along.What he did was wrong but not nearly as bad as some make out. He's not injuring it or anything like that. Not nice to watch but not exactly criminal either.
What about beating up children? I'm guessing that would do it.No it's not but that doesn't mean we should end a guys career or get him sacked for kicking a cat.
As a club: Get him to apologize for it, and give him some classes on the protection on animals. Also tell him if he continues to abuse animals after this then he might face a lot more serious consequences.
Well yes. There is a difference between physical harassment as in the video and injurious cruelty.Ah good to know it wasn't injured by having the shit kicked out of it. Merely "not nice to watch" fellas. Move along.
they didn’t actually say that. I think a few other media outlets ran with that as the headline.. can take a guess why.
But the met actually said this
Which is what I’d said before I’d even read that tweet.
I think everyone is in ‘pile on mode’ at the minute though and could do with just taking a chill. Like it was bad from Zouma don’t get me wrong but you can even see it in this thread. Footballers, police and then other posters. We don’t need to start crucifying everyone.
Semantics. It's being kicked like a bloody football. Have you checked its body for injuries ?Well yes. There is a difference between physical harassment as in the video and injurious cruelty.
Certain breeds of dog have incredibly powerful tails. Living in the small/cramped british homes most of us live in, fractures or open wounds are common from exciessive tail wagging
I’ll admit to not watching it. I can’t watch shit like that. Just don’t want it in my headspace.
Can anyone who has watched it confirm that it’s as nasty as the description makes it sound? Or could it possibly be excused as rough play?
Geese ain't defensless! Unless this is a coat joke!You've never come across a Canada Goose it seems.
I am sure Zouma thinks it is just rough play. He comes across as more ignorant and oblivious than malicious.I’ll admit to not watching it. I can’t watch shit like that. Just don’t want it in my headspace.
Can anyone who has watched it confirm that it’s as nasty as the description makes it sound? Or could it possibly be excused as rough play?
It's not semantics at all. It's a crucial difference. If he were pulling its claws out or similar that would clearly not be semantics but something much worse.Semantics. It's being kicked like a bloody football. Have you checked its body for injuries ?
The feck is wrong with you?What he did was wrong but not nearly as bad as some make out. He's not injuring it or anything like that. Not nice to watch but not exactly criminal either.
I agree with this. No way he should lose his job over this. Needs a good ban of games coupled with education about animal abuse.No it's not but that doesn't mean we should end a guys career or get him sacked for kicking a cat.
As a club: Get him to apologize for it, and give him some classes on the protection on animals. Also tell him if he continues to abuse animals after this then he might face a lot more serious consequences.
You've got the reaction you were looking for, just feck off.It's not semantics at all. It's a crucial difference. If he were pulling its claws out or similar that would clearly not be semantics but something much worse.
'We' it's up to his club what happens to him, and I guess the reception of their fanbase will have a say, too. What might save him, despite the moral outcry, is he's an asset who is literally worth millions of pounds, which is the get out clause for so many footballers, but on a moral scale, there'll be plenty who want him gone now.No it's not but that doesn't mean we should end a guys career or get him sacked for kicking a cat.
As a club: Get him to apologize for it, and give him some classes on the protection on animals. Also tell him if he continues to abuse animals after this then he might face a lot more serious consequences.
I'd say it's somewhere in between. It's definitely unacceptable and more than rough play, but it may not be quite as bad as what somebody who hasn't watched it might think if they are going just off the comments. None of it (at least that is on this video) would cause serious or internal injuries.Can anyone who has watched it confirm that it’s as nasty as the description makes it sound? Or could it possibly be excused as rough play?
I’ll admit to not watching it. I can’t watch shit like that. Just don’t want it in my headspace.
Can anyone who has watched it confirm that it’s as nasty as the description makes it sound? Or could it possibly be excused as rough play?
A thread on this would be interesting. I'll leave it here.The only way anyone can get a definite diagnosis is by manifesting behaviours which would 100% be considered cnuty by any reasonable person. If they never behave in a way that would be considered antisocial/psychopathic then they don’t get the diagnosis. This isn’t a thought experiment. We’re judging people by their real life actions and how they treat other people (invariably badly) and (getting back on topic) animals (also badly)
Obviously “being a cnut” is not yet an ICD/DSM diagnosis but this is as close as it gets.
There’s no excuse to it. It’s just really shitty behaviour to a poor cat for their entertainment.Can anyone who has watched it confirm that it’s as nasty as the description makes it sound? Or could it possibly be excused as rough play?
Well yes. There is a difference between physical harassment as in the video and injurious cruelty.
There is the mental torture side of it as well as his cats will likely be living in fear of being in his presence and human being in general as I have seen it first hand of the mental effect can have on ill treated cat.
What is with French players being absolute cnutish human beings?