How do we know that? I'm really curious how you can say that.
Shows the state of that club. Some people don't feel any shame at all.
Kurt Zouma / 180 hours community service + banned from keeping cats for 5 years
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Sociopathic scum those "fans"
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I don’t believe this, he’ll get booed until a new footballer’s shameful story comes out and then it’ll be old news.
If he’s got balls he’ll take his punishment and ride it out, but I imagine he’ll leave the prem and go abroad in the summer.
I also have a feeling this story wouldn’t make the front pages in another country.
Based on the reactions here I'm glad West Ham didn't cave to the mob. Those calling for him to be banned for the rest of the season or sacked are a bunch of weirdos.
I can see how financially they could be hurt if they protected a player guilty of racism but in this situation, what's the worst case scenario for West Ham ? Maybe they just don't give a feck
My views are separate and I’ve spoke to a lot of people about this and they actually don’t care about this incident.
A lot of the opinion is mankind suffocates baby chickens for egg and meat production who cares about cats.
Controversial discussion maybe they are dog people.
A lot of the opinion is mankind suffocates baby chickens for egg and meat production who cares about cats.
Controversial discussion maybe they are dog people.
If animal abuse deserves a bigger ban than racist abuse, crimes against animals are worse than crimes against people of colour. One cat was abused horribly, millions of footballers get racially abused, but the one cat gets more "ban days" than all of the bans for racism in the prem this year added together?
Mate, have a look at how he's talked Pogba for years.
That has nothing to do with racism. Pogba have been disaster for us in 90% games. Come on. You have to be able to criticize players without being labeled racist. Give me just one thing that he said that can be seen as racism. I think it is little bit strange that you see racism everywhere.
I seen a West Ham get ripped to shreds online because he genuinely believed that the English media are making a massive story about ‘French Zouma’ to distract the attention from what he referred to as ‘English Greenwood’. Rightfully he was ridiculed but he kept trying to rationalise his views.
Their fans are for watching.
Their fans are for watching.
It may be racism, it may not, but he 100% has an agenda against Pogba.
Players come and go who have been far worse than Pogba but souness goes at him with a such disdain, Even when Pogba plays well Souness gives him little praise.
Over the years though he rants about foreign players and seems to go over the top, that suggests to a lot of people that he’s racist.
What he did wasn't on the pitch or against another team, so i don't think the FA will charge him and rightfully so IMO.
Quarter of a million quid at least and almost the entire country hates him forever, and he'll get abuse at every Premier League game he plays for the rest of his career.
I'm not saying that's enough, but it's not nothing.
Now I've had time to consider all the arguments, it's cats that are in fact the problem and need canceling / deplatforming:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_predation_on_wildlife
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_predation_on_wildlife
Really?
How many animals are slaughtered in the UK? Every year in the UK approximately 2.6 million cattle, 10 million pigs, 14.5 million sheep and lambs, 80 million fish and 950 million birds are slaughtered for human consumption
It's 2 weeks wages. The rest has no bearing on the punishment West ham have brought on him.
Why are they weird? You don't think it deserves punishment
I didn't realise you were just talking about what West Ham can do. 2 weeks is the max fine allowed under PFA rules.
It will be interesting to see what they do when the RSPCA finish their investigation and (which they will do) charge Zouma.
Absolutely spot on, this should end this racism debate in a thread about an animal being abused.
Also, what a bunch of clowns those wh fans are. I hope they will sing the same when kids with idiot parents like zouma bully their kids at school. Feckin disgusting.
Are you going to tell me I'm not allowed to love my dog and cat because I take great pleasure in utterly demolishing a bacon sandwich?
And a lamb hotpot.
And don't get me started on sheep, we'll be here all day.
Ah, that explains things.
I mean, the least Moyes can do is bench the guy until the investigation has finished. Starting him every week is only going to incite the crowds and do more damage to their already tarnished reputation.
I'm saying killing and eating is a strange way of loving animals.
It's not about it being strange, it's about it being hypocritical. You can't call yourself an animal lover if you pay for them to be slaughtered. You can call yourself a dog/cat lover but you clearly don't love all animals if you eat them.
What the hell?!
So you’re saying for example…. Benjamin Mendy and Greenwood if found guilty won’t/shouldn’t face FA charges because what they did “wasn’t on the pitch”.
Christ, some of the posts on this thread…..
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Chef Evans was found guilty of rape and the Fa didn't punish him. It'll be the same for Greenwood or Mendy.
For those kind of things, (where there's a prison sentence), the FA doesn't really do anything
Okay, that's your opinion, and you're welcome to it.
My opinion is that there are several ways to express love. I love to pet dogs, cats and goldfish - yes, you can totally pet a goldfish - but I love to eat bacon, sausages and lamb chops.
Does that not qualify me as an animal lover?
If they're found guilty, they'll be locked up. Meaning they can't play. As simple as that if you had taken time to think about it.
How did you come to this conclusion after reading his post?
He simply said what he did doesn't deserve the type of punishment he wrote, not that it doesn't deserve any punishment.
Fair comment, my bad, it does seem the FA don’t take action if given prison sentence, which I find gobsmacking.
Will have to wait and see if the FA take any action regards Mendy and Greenwood.
Sorry yea, I think West ham have been to soft on him and put their results ahead of anything else. He shouldn't be playing until the investigation is concluded, at least.
Hes calling posters weirdos for saying he should be banned for 12ish games? It's an odd audience to target. The weirdos are those that don't think there should be any punishment.
He was talking about those asking for him to be banned, not just suspended for 12ish games.
And IMO he shouldn't face any more than 5 games suspension, and a fine. He's already also lost a sponsor too.
He said banned to the end of the season. How many games are left 12/14 something like that is it? It wouldn't be that over the top.
It's far less over the top than what West ham have actually done and that's fine him 2 weeks wages and start him every game since.
Clubs fine players how they want, and also legally i think there's a limit to how much a club can fine a player.
West Ham shouldn't have played him immediately, but suspending him till the end of the season is complete BS IMO.
Again that's my point, it's bullshit to have done nothing at all. That's where all the anger should be placed